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Post by Dad91 on Sept 2, 2024 13:40:41 GMT
Great Retained for RATP Group London didn't expect 125 be retained I knew 31 would be coming home
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Sept 2, 2024 17:12:14 GMT
Great Retained for RATP Group London didn't expect 125 be retained I knew 31 would be coming home Why is it unexpected? I knew the 125 would be retained and I bet RATP were the only bidders as the other operators don't have space at their respective garages. AD is full and EW is full, very unlikely it would run from PB since its been extended to Colindale although its not impossible but would be operationally be expensive.
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Post by i3lu on Sept 2, 2024 17:21:49 GMT
Great Retained for RATP Group London didn't expect 125 be retained I knew 31 would be coming home Why is it unexpected? I knew the 125 would be retained and I bet RATP were the only bidders as the other operators don't have space at their respective garages. AD is full and EW is full, very unlikely it would run from PB since its been extended to Colindale although its not impossible but would be operationally be expensive. Couldn't Metroline try it from W too?
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Sept 2, 2024 18:03:09 GMT
Why is it unexpected? I knew the 125 would be retained and I bet RATP were the only bidders as the other operators don't have space at their respective garages. AD is full and EW is full, very unlikely it would run from PB since its been extended to Colindale although its not impossible but would be operationally be expensive. Couldn't Metroline try it from W too? Unlikely that too and not even worth trying to be honest, operators are being more sensible in terms of which garage to run routes from. EW is the most suitable garage for the route as you could changeover at Colindale and its just two stops on the Northern Line to Edgware but the garage is at full capacity.
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Post by Dad91 on Sept 2, 2024 18:28:51 GMT
Great Retained for RATP Group London didn't expect 125 be retained I knew 31 would be coming home Why is it unexpected? I knew the 125 would be retained and I bet RATP were the only bidders as the other operators don't have space at their respective garages. AD is full and EW is full, very unlikely it would run from PB since its been extended to Colindale although its not impossible but would be operationally be expensive. 125 was underperforming.thought be lost. Dunno how many Operators bid for the 125 Arriva E Metroline PB Go Ahead London NP
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Post by DT 11 on Sept 2, 2024 18:31:30 GMT
Why is it unexpected? I knew the 125 would be retained and I bet RATP were the only bidders as the other operators don't have space at their respective garages. AD is full and EW is full, very unlikely it would run from PB since its been extended to Colindale although its not impossible but would be operationally be expensive. 125 was underperforming.thought be lost. Dunno how many Operators bid for the 125 Arriva E Metroline PB Go Ahead London NP Probably only had 1 bidder. An extra bus is being added so should hopefully improve the service.
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Post by DT 11 on Sept 2, 2024 18:34:39 GMT
Why is it unexpected? I knew the 125 would be retained and I bet RATP were the only bidders as the other operators don't have space at their respective garages. AD is full and EW is full, very unlikely it would run from PB since its been extended to Colindale although its not impossible but would be operationally be expensive. Couldn't Metroline try it from W too? This is too funny… at short notice too.
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Post by ! ALEED on Sept 2, 2024 19:22:38 GMT
Who runs 31? It would appear that RATP have won this from Westbourne Park garage Nice to see it back at X garage. I guess this finds a home for the OMEs for the next 3-7 years. The 31 could temporarily use the OMEs until it's allocation arrives if it doesn't make it in time.
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Post by VMH2537 on Sept 2, 2024 21:03:54 GMT
125 was underperforming.thought be lost. Dunno how many Operators bid for the 125 Arriva E Metroline PB Go Ahead London NP Probably only had 1 bidder. An extra bus is being added so should hopefully improve the service. That doesn't mean the diarrhea operation will stop...
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Post by DT 11 on Sept 2, 2024 21:22:52 GMT
Probably only had 1 bidder. An extra bus is being added so should hopefully improve the service. That doesn't mean the diarrhea operation will stop... No one needs to know your personal business
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Post by VMH2537 on Sept 2, 2024 21:30:11 GMT
That doesn't mean the diarrhea operation will stop... No one needs to know your personal business Well then, whether people like it or not, until I see such improvement (which doesn't look like the case). I will continue to preach and refer the 125 as the 'diarrhea' operation.
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Post by vlw92 on Sept 2, 2024 21:39:35 GMT
No one needs to know your personal business Well then, whether people like it or not, until I see such improvement (which doesn't look like the case). I will continue to preach and refer the 125 as the 'diarrhea' operation. Do you actually know the ins and outs of this industry or are you just another keyboard warrior as well. The worst thing about this forum is people who voice an oppinion yet dont actually even work in the industry. The day you actually know how it works is the day I will accept the opinions of people's with little know how. And this is coming from someone who knows the industry INSIDE OUT. Thank You Very Much. Sorry to say but if you compare the performance at RATP from 12 months ago to now is a completely different story so with all respect The route in its current format with the current PVR was no longer unnatainable, both financial and profitibity wise. RATP excersised their right to cancel and retender at a better £ per mile which reflects the current real world financial issues. This is a bussiness and passengers are just colateral fodder. PERIOD
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Post by DE20106 on Sept 2, 2024 22:03:21 GMT
Well then, whether people like it or not, until I see such improvement (which doesn't look like the case). I will continue to preach and refer the 125 as the 'diarrhea' operation. Do you actually know the ins and outs of this industry or are you just another keyboard warrior as well. The worst thing about this forum is people who voice an oppinion yet dont actually even work in the industry. The day you actually know how it works is the day I will accept the opinions of people's with little know how. And this is coming from a Performance Manager. Thank You Very Much. Sorry to say but if you compare the performance at RATP from 12 months ago to now is a completely different story so with all respect ZIP IT The route in its current format with the current PVR was no longer unnatainable, both financial and profitibity wise. RATP excersised their right to cancel and retender at a better £ per mile which reflects the current real world financial issues. This is a bussiness and passengers are just colateral fodder. PERIOD I pretty sure he’s a local to the 125, and if he had to constantly deal with unreliable service for the last three years then I think he is certainly entitled to be aggrieved by it. Now I’m not local to the 125, but last year when I just missed the last of a convoy of four 125’s out of North Finchley bus station with a 36 minute wait until the next one, I wasn’t best pleased. And if that’s what OP had to deal with regularly, one can at least understand his annoyance. However I said it myself the other day, RATPs recent improvements have been very very noticeable as you’ve just outlined. So I do think in this next 3 year term with a more sustainable schedule and bigger PVR on a stronger financial footing, the 125 will be ran much better. They certainly have done with many of their other routes
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Post by lj61nwc on Sept 2, 2024 22:06:33 GMT
Do you actually know the ins and outs of this industry or are you just another keyboard warrior as well. The worst thing about this forum is people who voice an oppinion yet dont actually even work in the industry. The day you actually know how it works is the day I will accept the opinions of people's with little know how. And this is coming from a Performance Manager. Thank You Very Much. Sorry to say but if you compare the performance at RATP from 12 months ago to now is a completely different story so with all respect ZIP IT The route in its current format with the current PVR was no longer unnatainable, both financial and profitibity wise. RATP excersised their right to cancel and retender at a better £ per mile which reflects the current real world financial issues. This is a bussiness and passengers are just colateral fodder. PERIOD I pretty sure he’s a local to the 125, and if he had to constantly deal with unreliable service for the last three years then I think he is certainly entitled to be aggrieved by it. Now I’m not local to the 125, but last year when I just missed the last of a convoy of four 125’s out of North Finchley bus station with a 36 minute wait until the next one, I wasn’t best pleased. And if that’s what OP had to deal with regularly, one can at least understand his annoyance. However I said it myself the other day, RATPs recent improvements have been very very noticeable as you’ve just outlined. So I do think in this next 3 year term with a more sustainable schedule and bigger PVR on a stronger financial footing, the 125 will be ran much better. They certainly have done with many of their other routes Thats his point though, RATP and all other operators are businesses and will priotise meeting targets and bonuses over customers. TfLs way of bonuses with the graphs etc are pretty flawed but we can't shift the blame onto the operators since they're just here for the money
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Post by vlw92 on Sept 2, 2024 22:11:39 GMT
I pretty sure he’s a local to the 125, and if he had to constantly deal with unreliable service for the last three years then I think he is certainly entitled to be aggrieved by it. Now I’m not local to the 125, but last year when I just missed the last of a convoy of four 125’s out of North Finchley bus station with a 36 minute wait until the next one, I wasn’t best pleased. And if that’s what OP had to deal with regularly, one can at least understand his annoyance. However I said it myself the other day, RATPs recent improvements have been very very noticeable as you’ve just outlined. So I do think in this next 3 year term with a more sustainable schedule and bigger PVR on a stronger financial footing, the 125 will be ran much better. They certainly have done with many of their other routes Thats his point though, RATP and all other operators are businesses and will priotise meeting targets and bonuses over customers. TfLs way of bonuses with the graphs etc are pretty flawed but we can't shift the blame onto the operators since they're just here for the money The man can moan all he wants but its the operators given TFL the 2 finger salute which will give passengers a much better experience. Like everything in life it takes TIME AND MONEY
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