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Post by VMH2537 on Sept 2, 2024 22:18:23 GMT
Well then, whether people like it or not, until I see such improvement (which doesn't look like the case). I will continue to preach and refer the 125 as the 'diarrhea' operation. Do you actually know the ins and outs of this industry or are you just another keyboard warrior as well. The worst thing about this forum is people who voice an oppinion yet dont actually even work in the industry. The day you actually know how it works is the day I will accept the opinions of people's with little know how. And this is coming from someone who knows the industry INSIDE OUT. Thank You Very Much. Sorry to say but if you compare the performance at RATP from 12 months ago to now is a completely different story so with all respect ZIP IT The route in its current format with the current PVR was no longer unnatainable, both financial and profitibity wise. RATP excersised their right to cancel and retender at a better £ per mile which reflects the current real world financial issues. This is a bussiness and passengers are just colateral fodder. PERIOD Funny enough, the current graphs still show not even a 'single' target has been met. It's been a quiet summer with limited traffic yet this company can't even hit a target and will instead choose to allow drivers and controllers to play this route as a playground. (An inspiration from another recent ceased operator *cough *cough*). bus.data.tfl.gov.uk/boroughreports/routes/performance-route-125.pdfI aware of the entire 125 route myself, having lived on the service for more than 15 on the eastern end. Yes, it can experience congestions around Southgate, Finchley and at Hendon. However, there shouldn't be any reason for such a large gap to occur or for buses to bunch in two services. Like how is it tolerable to have two buses bunching on a Sunday at late in the evenings? Only RATP I guess. As in it wasn't a good substitute when Great Northern cancelled services on a Sunday whilst trying to reach Wood Green. It's getting increasingly frustrating TfL arn't helping the situation who will just award contracts to 'whoever is the cheapest' in most cases without considering passenger affects. I again as a user do not care or whatsoever whether they need to make money or not, if you can't provide an adequate service in London, then I suggest quitting the market whilst your at it. Then here comes the loop again, TfL will continue to do this as Sadiq Khan can have the perfect cover up to blame the past Government over a lack of funding despite him funding a new route at a cost of nearly £3 million per annum as well being able to somehow justify and sign off a utter poo service change at Woodford. Before signing off, if I'm being told to 'zip it', it's just going to really frankly encourage me further to preach my words until I get what I want. Which from what I see, this company doesn't care apart from robbing users or neither TfL being a puppet of Sadiq Khan.
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Post by george on Sept 2, 2024 22:32:58 GMT
Well then, whether people like it or not, until I see such improvement (which doesn't look like the case). I will continue to preach and refer the 125 as the 'diarrhea' operation. Do you actually know the ins and outs of this industry or are you just another keyboard warrior as well. The worst thing about this forum is people who voice an oppinion yet dont actually even work in the industry. The day you actually know how it works is the day I will accept the opinions of people's with little know how. And this is coming from someone who knows the industry INSIDE OUT. Thank You Very Much. Sorry to say but if you compare the performance at RATP from 12 months ago to now is a completely different story so with all respect ZIP IT The route in its current format with the current PVR was no longer unnatainable, both financial and profitibity wise. RATP excersised their right to cancel and retender at a better £ per mile which reflects the current real world financial issues. This is a bussiness and passengers are just colateral fodder. PERIOD Unpopular opinion but if someone has a view on a route then they have a right to say that opinion. Especially if the OP lives on the route and of course you have a right to respond as well but is zip it really necessary?
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Post by VMH2537 on Sept 2, 2024 22:59:31 GMT
Funny enough, the current graphs still show not even a 'single' target has been met. It's been a quiet summer with limited traffic yet this company can't even hit a target and will instead choose to allow drivers and controllers to play this route as a playground. (An inspiration from another recent ceased operator *cough *cough*). bus.data.tfl.gov.uk/boroughreports/routes/performance-route-125.pdfI aware of the entire 125 route myself, having lived on the service for more than 15 on the eastern end. Yes, it can experience congestions around Southgate, Finchley and at Hendon. However, there shouldn't be any reason for such a large gap to occur or for buses to bunch in two services. Like how is it tolerable to have two buses bunching on a Sunday at late in the evenings? Only RATP I guess. As in it wasn't a good substitute when Great Northern cancelled services on a Sunday whilst trying to reach Wood Green. It's getting increasingly frustrating TfL arn't helping the situation who will just award contracts to 'whoever is the cheapest' in most cases without considering passenger affects. I again as a user do not care or whatsoever whether they need to make money or not, if you can't provide an adequate service in London, then I suggest quitting the market whilst your at it. Then here comes the loop again, TfL will continue to do this as Sadiq Khan can have the perfect cover up to blame the past Government over a lack of funding despite him funding a new route at a cost of nearly £3 million per annum as well being able to somehow justify and sign off a utter poo service change at Woodford. Before signing off, if I'm being told to 'zip it', it's just going to really frankly encourage me further to preach my words until I get what I want. Which from what I see, this company doesn't care apart from robbing users or neither TfL being a puppet of Sadiq Khan. And this is the problem with your stupid argument. You have a simplistic view becuase it is only (one) route, yet the company as a whole is on the onwards and upwards. Improvement doenst happen overnight it takes time and severe ammount of retraining to hopefully erode the mistakes of a bygone era. Live with what you have which might not be perfect but at least its much better than you will have if you leave the capital. And by the way... Your link to the performance data is totaly stupid anyway. Just compare the year ending 23/24 and then 24/25 and the improvement is beyond visable and you cant even see the result after period 3 which is JUNE. So have can you even mention about August when the results are NOT EVEN OUT YET. And under the new Tender the Target is mow a more achievable and respectable 1.0 If this was the case then the last 3 periods (April, May and June) would have been in target. This means that the track is looking possitive 'One route'? I don't see any uplifts to the 148, 235 and let's not even mention the N5. bus.data.tfl.gov.uk/boroughreports/routes/performance-route-N5.pdfbus.data.tfl.gov.uk/boroughreports/routes/performance-route-235.pdfbus.data.tfl.gov.uk/boroughreports/routes/performance-route-148.pdf1.0? Oh yes, by essentially continuing your mass curtailments by abounding a section east of Hampton Square which I had to again frankly enjoy the 70 minute trip home as a result of this. Someone didn't follow the minimum 'third of a normal service' rule. Yet alone more mass regulations just like Go Ahead for the sake of hitting bonus targets essentially robbing users. I'm very much looking forward to this.
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Post by vlw92 on Sept 2, 2024 23:01:44 GMT
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Post by sdaniel on Sept 3, 2024 0:47:38 GMT
31 finally going back to Transit (Westbourne Park Bus Garage) for the best😅 Hopefully they can increase the frequency as well
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Post by vjaska on Sept 3, 2024 1:53:43 GMT
Do you actually know the ins and outs of this industry or are you just another keyboard warrior as well. The worst thing about this forum is people who voice an oppinion yet dont actually even work in the industry. The day you actually know how it works is the day I will accept the opinions of people's with little know how. And this is coming from a Performance Manager. Thank You Very Much. Sorry to say but if you compare the performance at RATP from 12 months ago to now is a completely different story so with all respect ZIP IT The route in its current format with the current PVR was no longer unnatainable, both financial and profitibity wise. RATP excersised their right to cancel and retender at a better £ per mile which reflects the current real world financial issues. This is a bussiness and passengers are just colateral fodder. PERIOD I pretty sure he’s a local to the 125, and if he had to constantly deal with unreliable service for the last three years then I think he is certainly entitled to be aggrieved by it. Now I’m not local to the 125, but last year when I just missed the last of a convoy of four 125’s out of North Finchley bus station with a 36 minute wait until the next one, I wasn’t best pleased. And if that’s what OP had to deal with regularly, one can at least understand his annoyance. However I said it myself the other day, RATPs recent improvements have been very very noticeable as you’ve just outlined. So I do think in this next 3 year term with a more sustainable schedule and bigger PVR on a stronger financial footing, the 125 will be ran much better. They certainly have done with many of their other routes Same, not local to the 125 so it's only a one off observation and shouldn't be used as a benchmark but a couple of Tuesdays ago, I had a long wait at Southgate because I mis-timed my arrival to coincide with riding a Solo on the W9 which meant I had to let a couple of Enviro 200's go. The 125 ran well that day, pretty much arriving every 10 minutes - I think it was even running better than the Piccadilly Line replacement service Arriva was operating.
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Post by Volvo on Sept 3, 2024 6:02:23 GMT
Alot of routes in North West London are not helped by the constant temporary lights that appear in the same places over and over again.
Ssome examples are Pound Lane by Willesden Fire Station for example since we have had the 226 there has been temp lights there around 10 times and each time last atleast one week and that's me being a spare driver and not always on it, so it's probably even more! Then there is Dudden Hill Lane, Acton Lane, Chichele Road junction with Anson Road Cricklewood, Cricklewood Station.
Towards the end of last week there were two sets of 3 way lights on Pound Lane one at the fire station again and one outside the bus garage, a diversion at Park Parade, Temporary light on Harrow Road junction with Wrottesley Road, Temporary light on Acton Lane.
The 125 is the same has lots of temp lights around Whetstone, Finchley, Hendon, Eversley Park Road and also diversions are quite common too and they are always in the same places.
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Post by COBO on Sept 3, 2024 6:11:52 GMT
31 finally going back to Transit (Westbourne Park Bus Garage) for the best😅 Hopefully they can increase the frequency as well Well the pvr is staying at 15 but we shall see.
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 3, 2024 8:15:28 GMT
RATP did have an Electroliner for a while at X so I wonder if they were considering that for their future orders. I wouldn't rule out City's though to match the 295 along with more BEs for the 33 and 218.
Also although it was awarded to London Transit, the route could still run from S if space was needed at X couldn't it?
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Post by jake on Sept 3, 2024 17:31:34 GMT
I’ve pretty much seen only OME’s on the 295 the past two days and the BCE’s are more commonly spread around X’s routes now, also around S as I’ve seen them on the 49, 94 and 148 Why would they do that in terms of the 295 contract, it’s not as if the other routes (at X) couldn’t use the OME’s anyway? If tfl doesn’t really care then why don’t they use the rest of the OME’s to spread the BCE’s around RATP for the pvr increases like for the superloop. Since this is really helpful for the company, why couldn’t they just place OME type chargers at the places where they’re needed in the first place, unless maybe it’s too expensive? For the garages with infrastructure, wouldn’t it just require adapters?
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Post by superloopsl7 on Sept 3, 2024 18:07:24 GMT
I’ve pretty much seen only OME’s on the 295 the past two days and the BCE’s are more commonly spread around X’s routes now, also around S as I’ve seen them on the 49, 94 and 148 Why would they do that in terms of the 295 contract, it’s not as if the other routes (at X) couldn’t use the OME’s anyway? If tfl doesn’t really care then why don’t they use the rest of the OME’s to spread the BCE’s around RATP for the pvr increases like for the superloop. Since this is really helpful for the company, why couldn’t they just place OME type chargers at the places where they’re needed in the first place, unless maybe it’s too expensive? For the garages with infrastructure, wouldn’t it just require adapters? The OME’s are exclusively to X, whereby the BCE’s are spread around the RATP fleet, so in terms of driver training and engineer training, it is easier, and more logical, to keep all of the 37 OME’s in one place. Also other routes don’t have buses that other garages routes drivers are trained for, such as the VDW/VMH/WH combinations from the 452 can’t exactly move anywhere, especially as the VDW’s are on borrowed time.
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Post by TB123 on Sept 3, 2024 18:41:54 GMT
It’s been hinted in a post on Facebook that the 33 will be receiving Kite Electroliners
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Post by LK65EBO on Sept 3, 2024 18:44:26 GMT
It’s been hinted in a post on Facebook that the 33 will be receiving Kite Electroliners Nice of TUK to let them have a look at one of theirs.
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Post by lj61nwc on Sept 3, 2024 18:45:04 GMT
It’s been hinted in a post on Facebook that the 33 will be receiving Kite Electroliners Wow, even RATP are switching away from ADL
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Post by LK65EBO on Sept 3, 2024 18:53:25 GMT
The BYD BD11 demo has been sighted at WK
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