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Post by vjaska on Sept 26, 2024 14:36:16 GMT
What do you mean by copy & paste control tactics by Arriva? I live in an area where Arriva have operated in for over 25 years and on the whole, they've been fine just like Go-Ahead have been where I live and just like the different iterations of Transport UK have been, bar one or two routes. The only other operator to have directly operated where I live was Stagecoach and they were ok but had a tendency to continually chuck short single deckers onto the P4, a route they should really only be on in an emergency - service wise, they were ok given the P4 is not an easy route to run because of the South Circular though I've noticed far less turns under Go-Ahead ironically. Considering Arriva tends to aboundon sections in light of disruption or if an area sneezes, it's fair to assume how they reassemble such case. The 34 being curtailed at Crooked Billet if any part of the route sneezes or even at AD. If that happens where you live, that's fine as I'm not going to question you about it as I agreed with your earlier post regarding why others who don't live nearby are involving themselves but at the same time, you then can't come out and label Arriva as a whole terrible given you only live near one portion of it - surely you see the double standards there? If you only live near AD routes or other Arriva London North garages, then keep your criticism towards that as judging by your earlier post, you don't live down here in South London and so shouldn't be extending any criticism further than the routes your familiar with.
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Post by Frenzie on Sept 27, 2024 11:25:48 GMT
Because TfL own the routes contract not the bus company. All of your other comments are hearsay / guesswork / speculation on your part. It’ll be interesting to see if anyone else bidder for the 125. Metroline had the opportunity to bid for the 65 and didn’t. So I when people say company x, y or z can run the 65 better , well they didn’t want it. People go on about ratp on here all the time yet have absolutely no specialist knowledge whatsoever about ratp or their preferred operator. Literally just people with opinions , fair enough - but said opinions count for naff all and are just huff and puff You don't really need any specialist knowledge, routes like the 49,65,125,220 are regularly mentioned on here in less than glowing terms and the ex RATP LTs that are currently at TB are in pretty ropey condition mechanically. Those LTs were in great condition mechanically when at V so perhaps it’s TB that’s the issue.
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Post by greenboy on Sept 27, 2024 11:27:52 GMT
You don't really need any specialist knowledge, routes like the 49,65,125,220 are regularly mentioned on here in less than glowing terms and the ex RATP LTs that are currently at TB are in pretty ropey condition mechanically. Those LTs were in great condition mechanically when at V so perhaps it’s TB that’s the issue. Seriously? That's not what staff at TB are saying.
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Post by Frenzie on Sept 27, 2024 11:32:17 GMT
Those LTs were in great condition mechanically when at V so perhaps it’s TB that’s the issue. Seriously? That's not what staff at TB are saying. I never had any issue with them, especially compared to the ones I’ve driven at Metroline and rarely had any warning lights on dash. The engineering department at V is superb in my opinion.
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Post by superloopsl7 on Sept 27, 2024 12:18:42 GMT
Those LTs were in great condition mechanically when at V so perhaps it’s TB that’s the issue. Seriously? That's not what staff at TB are saying. The LT's are in a horrible state and where like that when TB got them. LT131 has not seen service since 9th Janurary as well
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Post by DE20106 on Sept 27, 2024 12:54:12 GMT
Seriously? That's not what staff at TB are saying. I never had any issue with them, especially compared to the ones I’ve driven at Metroline and rarely had any warning lights on dash. The engineering department at V is superb in my opinion. That’s a completely opposite opinion to what our resident TB employee had to say about them 😀😂
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 27, 2024 12:58:02 GMT
Those LTs were in great condition mechanically when at V so perhaps it’s TB that’s the issue. Seriously? That's not what staff at TB are saying. Didn't Stagecoach even release an internal comm about the very poor inherited condition of the buses?
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Post by COBO on Sept 27, 2024 13:05:09 GMT
So where is H98’s remaining LTs coming from?
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Post by YX10FFN on Sept 27, 2024 14:33:57 GMT
Several times in the last few weeks the Richmond branch has been down, and when that happens the 110 is entirely inadequate to cover for it. A single deck bus every 20 minutes means that it's stuffed to the gills before it even gets to Kew or Gunnersbury, meaning that visitors to Kew Gardens and general commuters in the intermediate stops just have to make alternative arrangements. I've also seen this with school groups coming out of the gardens watching 110s go by with not a hope of getting on. The poor teachers!
Could AV have an arrangement where they train some 110 rota drivers on deckers so they can be flexible with them? When the District Line goes down they can throw some deckers on and that would go a long way to catering for the demand. Obviously they wouldn't deck an entire route because of the threat of the tubes going down, but this is an important route that has to pick up the pieces when there's problems on the tracks.
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on Sept 27, 2024 14:40:30 GMT
Several times in the last few weeks the Richmond branch has been down, and when that happens the 110 is entirely inadequate to cover for it. A single deck bus every 20 minutes means that it's stuffed to the gills before it even gets to Kew or Gunnersbury, meaning that visitors to Kew Gardens and general commuters in the intermediate stops just have to make alternative arrangements. I've also seen this with school groups coming out of the gardens watching 110s go by with not a hope of getting on. The poor teachers! Could AV have an arrangement where they train some 110 rota drivers on deckers so they can be flexible with them? When the District Line goes down they can throw some deckers on and that would go a long way to catering for the demand. Obviously they wouldn't deck an entire route because of the threat of the tubes going down, but this is an important route that has to pick up the pieces when there's problems on the tracks. In its current state, I do think route 110 should be a double deck route to be honest but it seems TFL have the opposite idea constantly making the service for that route worse.
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Post by YX10FFN on Sept 27, 2024 15:29:35 GMT
Several times in the last few weeks the Richmond branch has been down, and when that happens the 110 is entirely inadequate to cover for it. A single deck bus every 20 minutes means that it's stuffed to the gills before it even gets to Kew or Gunnersbury, meaning that visitors to Kew Gardens and general commuters in the intermediate stops just have to make alternative arrangements. I've also seen this with school groups coming out of the gardens watching 110s go by with not a hope of getting on. The poor teachers! Could AV have an arrangement where they train some 110 rota drivers on deckers so they can be flexible with them? When the District Line goes down they can throw some deckers on and that would go a long way to catering for the demand. Obviously they wouldn't deck an entire route because of the threat of the tubes going down, but this is an important route that has to pick up the pieces when there's problems on the tracks. In its current state, I do think route 110 should be a double deck route to be honest but it seems TFL have the opposite idea constantly making the service for that route worse. The cut to 20 minutes was completely nonsensical. The route was GROWING in passenger numbers, not declining. Especially in the Richmond-Whitton section. Completely coincidentally I imagine, The cut did free up the right amount of buses to complete the 419 allocation.
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Post by SN17MOA on Sept 27, 2024 18:39:53 GMT
Several times in the last few weeks the Richmond branch has been down, and when that happens the 110 is entirely inadequate to cover for it. A single deck bus every 20 minutes means that it's stuffed to the gills before it even gets to Kew or Gunnersbury, meaning that visitors to Kew Gardens and general commuters in the intermediate stops just have to make alternative arrangements. I've also seen this with school groups coming out of the gardens watching 110s go by with not a hope of getting on. The poor teachers! Could AV have an arrangement where they train some 110 rota drivers on deckers so they can be flexible with them? When the District Line goes down they can throw some deckers on and that would go a long way to catering for the demand. Obviously they wouldn't deck an entire route because of the threat of the tubes going down, but this is an important route that has to pick up the pieces when there's problems on the tracks. Normally when the District Line Richmond branch is down, people usually take the SWR and change at Vauxhall and Waterloo. For those who don't need to go into Central London, they use the 190 which is when the route being DD comes in handy. I'm sure the 110 gets busy too. The route is too long and infrequent. I don't believe there's anywhere that prevents the route from having DDs. FW usually slips a DD on the 290 each day even for a few hours, why can't the 110 follow suit especially once the allocated school route buses are not in need?
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Post by superloopsl7 on Sept 27, 2024 20:58:00 GMT
So where is H98’s remaining LTs coming from? I believe that the only possible thought is that RATP are going to get theirs back, in the form of the ex-Superloop buses. There is no other route that I can think of that is not using its LT’s fully, meaning that there is very few spare buses around in the LT fleet. ex-211 buses are at the garage, but I believe that they are undergoing refurbishment if they are not already being used on the H98.
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Post by londonbuses on Sept 27, 2024 21:04:52 GMT
So where is H98’s remaining LTs coming from? I believe that the only possible thought is that RATP are going to get theirs back, in the form of the ex-Superloop buses. There is no other route that I can think of that is not using its LT’s fully, meaning that there is very few spare buses around in the LT fleet. ex-211 buses are at the garage, but I believe that they are undergoing refurbishment if they are not already being used on the H98. RATP do have enough LTs for the H98, I'm not sure why they aren't all in use yet but they won't need to get any more from other operators. The 148 also seems to have more LTs than it needs to have (and is getting a -1 on its new contract), so I wouldn't be surprised if the 698 partially converts to LTs too, which may help RATP get rid of the remaining ADEs scattered around.
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Post by YX18KVJ (DLE30221) on Sept 27, 2024 23:23:45 GMT
I believe that the only possible thought is that RATP are going to get theirs back, in the form of the ex-Superloop buses. There is no other route that I can think of that is not using its LT’s fully, meaning that there is very few spare buses around in the LT fleet. ex-211 buses are at the garage, but I believe that they are undergoing refurbishment if they are not already being used on the H98. RATP do have enough LTs for the H98, I'm not sure why they aren't all in use yet but they won't need to get any more from other operators. The 148 also seems to have more LTs than it needs to have (and is getting a -1 on its new contract), so I wouldn't be surprised if the 698 partially converts to LTs too, which may help RATP get rid of the remaining ADEs scattered around. Some of the ex-211 LTs are covering for some of the 148 batch. they should move (or go for refurb) when they are no longer needed at S
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