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Post by snowman on Jan 7, 2011 6:37:36 GMT
im surprised that only 2 are being ordered as that leaves only 1 spare for the 406, 418, 467 and school 463 during the peak hours. 1 spare for 3 routes and 1 school journey does not seem much when you think A has 6 DOE's spare for the 93, 151, 154. What happens if the fleet for the 406, 418 need to be refurbed on their next contract as potenially no buses could leave the garage for a period without there being no spares. The difference is the PVR's of the 93, 151 & 154 are much higher than the 406 & 418 which both have a PVR of only 4. Usually a route with this low a PVR won't have many spares and since the 467 only has a PVR of 2, they can easily work round that. The school journey only runs 1 journey each way I'm guessing. Most companies run a spare along a school route rather than ordering a vehicle that probably won't see much daylight. . Their spare seems to be the sole remaining Citaro, it is occasionally on 406 or 418 to Kingston. As article says nearly £400,000 for 2 buses, an extra one for standby would be a lot of money, and if you maintain properly shouldn't break down. I can't remember ever seeing a Quality Line DD broken down, so presumably 11 out of 12 normally available for service will have been factored into the costings and maintenance regime. One advantage of having a school route, is the school holidays allow you to schedule heavy maintenace, refurb. etc. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Jan 7, 2011 10:13:57 GMT
in all honesty The 467 could prob use SD's in the school holidays and allow for maintenace. Apart from School times the 467 is very quiet.
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Post by rygr500 on Jan 7, 2011 17:50:53 GMT
At least two DDs out of EB yesterday had partly or full broken powerblinds - friend of mine boarded one with an angry driver informing them it was the 406 to Epsom - not the blank blank blank.
Or 406 back blind on a 418, and so on, and so forth. It seems something EB may have a large issue with.
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Post by deppy42 on Mar 10, 2011 19:59:11 GMT
As we have now had the split finalised perhaps we should have a new operator thread and leave Transdev for London Sovereign.
To kick this one off, the first RATP branded vehicle (DLE4) entered service at AV this afternoon.
It has London United in white with RATP Group underneath (the RATP logo appears between RATP and Group).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2011 22:54:38 GMT
Good,lets hope they can continue the good work and further improve performance.
Some tender opportunities at the moment for them. Be good to give go-ahead,first and abellio a run for their money
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Post by snowman on Mar 11, 2011 6:53:34 GMT
Good,lets hope they can continue the good work and further improve performance. Some tender opportunities at the moment for them. Be good to give go-ahead,first and abellio a run for their money This can work both ways, don't forget has also been tender losses, 411, 467, K5 etc although these are all in the South of their Operating area. I assume you are hopeing PK for some routes in tranche 368, various gains in tranche 369, both of which should be announced soon On another subject, Haven't totally got rid of Transdev names yet, yesterday saw some buses with Transdev on one side (even if had been removed from other side and ends), guess it takes time. |
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Post by Volvo on Mar 11, 2011 11:17:38 GMT
I thought PK was a transdev garage, not a LU one?
Hopefully like with stagecoach, LU wont buy anymore omni sh***ies.
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Post by john on Mar 11, 2011 11:18:22 GMT
Good,lets hope they can continue the good work and further improve performance. Some tender opportunities at the moment for them. Be good to give go-ahead,first and abellio a run for their money This can work both ways, don't forget has also been tender losses, 411, 467, K5 etc although these are all in the South of their Operating area. I assume you are hopeing PK for some routes in tranche 368, various gains in tranche 369, both of which should be announced soon On another subject, Haven't totally got rid of Transdev names yet, yesterday saw some buses with Transdev on one side (even if had been removed from other side and ends), guess it takes time. There are still a number of buses running around with East London lgo's over this side, so can certainly take some time!! I know of 17987 at NS where it had a rear advert so it carrying both logo's |
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Post by cc2005 on Mar 11, 2011 14:31:50 GMT
Some of the 10's SPs at V have had the new "London United RATP Group" logos applied. Didn't catch the fleet numbers
Now that United and Sovereign have split, how will future vehicle orders fleetnumbering continue? Both companies will have gaps in their series..
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Post by snowman on Mar 11, 2011 14:34:36 GMT
I thought PK was a transdev garage, not a LU one? Hopefully like with stagecoach, LU wont buy anymore omni sh***ies. PK was a NCP / NSL garage that was initially allocated to London Sovereign, but was reallocated to London United some months ago I can't see any more omnis being ordered unless it was a very small top-up batch, would only be for a tender win as no double deck routes are up until 2012 which would be two years after last ones entered service |
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Post by jay38a on Mar 13, 2011 11:43:22 GMT
Nice to see the London United name back on buses  , shame they could not have brought back the old logo as well but the name is a start and is welcomed back by me anyway. |
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Post by Jack on Mar 13, 2011 11:51:26 GMT
Please tell me that is not a DE on the 9 i can see in the background!!!! |
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Post by vjaska on Mar 13, 2011 14:40:17 GMT
Please tell me that is not a DE on the 9 i can see in the background!!!! It's not a DE on the 9 ;D Seriously though, it does look like the blind on the DE says 9 to me as well  Much prefer the new logo to Transdev's own logo and brilliant to see an excellent name return. |
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Post by beaver14uk on Mar 13, 2011 14:45:11 GMT
Think I would have preferred the London United crest to return, but agree nice to see the London United name back. Please tell me that is not a DE on the 9 i can see in the background!!!! It's not a DE on the 9 ;D Seriously though, it does look like the blind on the DE says 9 to me as well Much prefer the new logo to Transdev's own logo and brilliant to see an excellent name return. |
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Post by beaver14uk on Mar 13, 2011 14:49:39 GMT
Great minds - I thought and posted the same before I just spotted your post  Nice to see the London United name back on buses , shame they could not have brought back the old logo as well but the name is a start and is welcomed back by me anyway. |
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, shame they could not have brought back the old logo as well but the name is a start and is welcomed back by me anyway. 
