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Post by vjaska on Jan 8, 2013 14:16:13 GMT
A 432 extension to Elmers End Station is not for stand space reasons at all, I suggested it as a quicker link between Palace & Elmers End as well as Tramlink connections at Birkbeck & Elmers End to places north of Palace. I concede my 417 extension was partly due to stand space but it also creates another through route serving Palace which currently only has 3 through routes. Yes I agree with you about an extension to Elmers End however the original extension of the 249 and 432 (it was originally going to be the 3 and 322) was just for space reasons. The 157 and 358 are more than adequate for Anerley Hill but a direct link to Elmers End would be very useful. Ahh ok, I see what you mean. |
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Post by twobellstogo on Jan 8, 2013 14:49:14 GMT
Recommendations today suggest that South London NHS Trust should be dissolved, and Queen Mary's in Sidcup and Darent Valley in Dartford will form one new NHS Trust. Sounds like some new links from Bexley will be needed. Not helped by there being no stand space at Darent Valley... Making the 96 stop at the hospital on the way to Bluewater would be a good start, but somewhere along the line there needs to be a link from the Sidcup area too, and I'm not convinced the 492 is necessarily the best option. Discuss... Just like to point out here that just because two hospitals are together as a NHS Trust, doesn't mean patients will necessarily get sent between them. The likelihood is that nothing will change save for admin purposes. Might be worth pointing out here however that if Lewisham Hospital does lose its A&E, a proper link to QE Hospital for Lewisham would be good. QM has no A&E, and is not likely to get one after merger either... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2013 15:10:23 GMT
Just like to point out here that just because two hospitals are together as a NHS Trust, doesn't mean patients will necessarily get sent between them. The likelihood is that nothing will change save for admin purposes. Might be worth pointing out here however that if Lewisham Hospital does lose its A&E, a proper link to QE Hospital for Lewisham would be good. QM has no A&E, and is not likely to get one after merger either... I think he means the QE at Woolwich which does have A&E? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2013 20:19:41 GMT
I'd rather get an 89 and walk than a 178
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Post by jay38a on Jan 8, 2013 20:39:47 GMT
I'd rather get an 89 and walk than a 178 So would I to be honest, but for some people the 15 minute walk from the 89 isn't an option. Best routing in my opinion for any new route from Lewisham would be via the 122 to Shooters Hill then via the 161. Maybe if there's stand-space issues in Lewisham run it through Woolwich to Plumstead, or even further afield (as Lewisham to QE via the 122 isn't very long) Wouldnt one option is to divert the 89, making it do a double run down Stadium Road to the Bus Stand at QE then back out the same way. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2013 21:47:33 GMT
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. So leave the 198 alone!  EDIT: I see it's Vjaska's birthday today; happy birthday!  |
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Post by vjaska on Jan 8, 2013 23:08:49 GMT
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. So leave the 198 alone! EDIT: I see it's Vjaska's birthday today; happy birthday! Indeed it is, cheers mate  |
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Post by jay38a on Jan 9, 2013 0:02:21 GMT
Another suggestion restoring the Sidcup to Trafalgar Square night service would be to create a N321 service following the current 24 hour Route 321 to from Foots Cray Tesco to New Cross Gate then onto Trafalgar Square via the N21, which would 1) help to elevate the heavy loadings on the N21 and 2) as suggested above restore the link from Sidcup to Central London.
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Post by twobellstogo on Jan 9, 2013 11:11:25 GMT
So would I to be honest, but for some people the 15 minute walk from the 89 isn't an option. Best routing in my opinion for any new route from Lewisham would be via the 122 to Shooters Hill then via the 161. Maybe if there's stand-space issues in Lewisham run it through Woolwich to Plumstead, or even further afield (as Lewisham to QE via the 122 isn't very long) Wouldnt one option is to divert the 89, making it do a double run down Stadium Road to the Bus Stand at QE then back out the same way. As a fairly regular through passenger on the 89, I'd hate that... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2013 12:11:38 GMT
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. So leave the 198 alone! EDIT: I see it's Vjaska's birthday today; happy birthday! Not a question of whether the 198 is "broke", its part of a package involving extending the 353 back to Croydon. Of course the 353 could just terminate at West Croydon and the 466 could be rerouted there but there is insufficient standspace. Plus the fact the link from East Croydon, Addiscombe Road and Shirley Park area would be lost. Need to look at the bigger picture. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2013 12:15:12 GMT
As a fairly regular through passenger on the 89, I'd hate that... To be honest, so would I. Can't please everybody  I can't see how another route from Lewisham via Blackheath to QE could be justified so running the 89 through the QM does have some merit although not in the Bexleyheath direction as the 486 already covers that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2013 14:55:41 GMT
Can't please everybody I can't see how another route from Lewisham via Blackheath to QE could be justified so running the 89 through the QM does have some merit although not in the Bexleyheath direction as the 486 already covers that. I wasn't suggesting via Blackheath. I said via the 122 then the 161 But then you may as well just reroute the 122 through the hospital? |
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Post by twobellstogo on Jan 9, 2013 21:32:47 GMT
But then you may as well just reroute the 122 through the hospital? Yes, that's always an option. Was just thinking of Catford in this equation, you see. But the 122 would probably be suitable. As long as something else replaced the 122 up Academy Road, yes. Maybe the 126? |
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Post by beaver14uk on Jan 9, 2013 22:53:46 GMT
Extend something or send it to Plumstead Common where they is plenty of stand space. Woolwich isn't too bad to be honest. As long as something else replaced the 122 up Academy Road, yes. Maybe the 126? Sounds like a good idea. Bromley gets needed link, Lewisham gets needed link. Saying that, I don't know what stand space is like in Woolwich, or there might be problems trying to terminate the 126 in the Woolwich area. This might sound like a slightly odd suggestion, but I wonder if an agreement could be made with Stagecoach to terminate and/or stand the 178 at Plumstead Garage, a few minutes down the road... |
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Post by vjaska on Jan 10, 2013 3:36:52 GMT
Extend the 353 from Addington Village back to Croydon but via the current 466 route and then via the 119 to Purley Way. Increase it to every 10mins. The Orpington to Ramsden bit could possibly be withdrawn? Never seems well used with most people using the R9. 466 Withdrawn from Addington and rerouted to Shrublands 119 Withdrawn from Purley Way and rerouted to Thornton Heath High Street where it used to go, retains link from there to Shirley area. Withdraw the 198 route. I quite like the above, gives the 353 more purpose and plugs a link that was cruelly taken away. The only change I'd make is to send the 353 to West Croydon Station & divert the T33 at Park Lane to take over the 119 to Purley Way. That section between Katherine Street & Purley Way is quite dead anyway whenever I've used it. I'd extend the 64 as well to Streatham Village via the 109 to open up even more links and take pressure off the 109 itself. |
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