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Post by vjaska on Jul 7, 2013 23:07:25 GMT
You mean it would upset you, besides DLA's aren't loud especially when compared to B7TL's & Enviro 400's & 400H's. Anyway, DLA's wouldn't be used as they are too old now for existing contracts. No I mean Greenwich residents would flip if they had 03 reg dlas ps I have ridden the 03's and well they are horrendously loud Lol, I doubt they would flip out over a certain DLA besides I see the 03 reg DLA's every day on the 109 & 250 and they are far from being 'horrendously' loud - you must of been unlucky  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 0:20:01 GMT
9 extended to Waterloo
10 garage journeys extended to Stamford brook garage
c1 extended from Victoria to new northern line station at Battersea via vauxhall bridge road, Pimlico and Chelsea bridge
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Post by LX09FBJ on Jul 10, 2013 23:48:19 GMT
9 extended to Waterloo 10 garage journeys extended to Stamford brook garage c1 extended from Victoria to new northern line station at Battersea via vauxhall bridge road, Pimlico and Chelsea bridge Good ideas, though I'd recommend the 9 go to Liverpool Street (where it used to go, as there's the 211 to Waterloo) Also the 10 could be extended to the now unused stand at Turnham Green Church (and this gives more space at Hammersmith, then move the 9 to former 211 stand and move H91 to former 9 stand.) |
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Post by Hassaan on Jul 11, 2013 7:31:05 GMT
9 extended to Waterloo 10 garage journeys extended to Stamford brook garage c1 extended from Victoria to new northern line station at Battersea via vauxhall bridge road, Pimlico and Chelsea bridge Good ideas, though I'd recommend the 9 go to Liverpool Street (where it used to go, as there's the 211 to Waterloo) Also the 10 could be extended to the now unused stand at Turnham Green Church (and this gives more space at Hammersmith, then move the 9 to former 211 stand and move H91 to former 9 stand.) The stand at Turnham Green was removed soon after the 27 was extended, although the shelter still remains  |
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Post by LX09FBJ on Jul 19, 2013 17:28:31 GMT
New route 449, Battersea Bridge to Crystal Palace
The route would run via 319 to Tooting Bec/Stretham then via 249 to Crystal Palace; every 8 mins Mon-Sat and 12 mins on Sundays.
Operated by either Arriva London from Brixton or London General from Stockwell, with either DWs or WVLs respectively
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Post by moz on Jul 21, 2013 17:39:44 GMT
New route 449, Battersea Bridge to Crystal Palace The route would run via 319 to Tooting Bec/Stretham then via 249 to Crystal Palace; every 8 mins Mon-Sat and 12 mins on Sundays. Operated by either Arriva London from Brixton or London General from Stockwell, with either DWs or WVLs respectively The 49 covered this not so many moons ago and went right through to Shepherds Bush! There was good reason it was split up. As for Battersea Bridge (staying slightly on topic), I wonder if there would be any mileage in swapping northern terminals between the 170 and 319? The 19 could be extended down to Latchmere to provide some replacement overlap, but the Battersea - Victoria section of the 170 always seems to be overloaded. Or am I just there at the wrong times? Moz |
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Post by LX09FBJ on Jul 21, 2013 19:29:18 GMT
New route 449, Battersea Bridge to Crystal Palace The route would run via 319 to Tooting Bec/Stretham then via 249 to Crystal Palace; every 8 mins Mon-Sat and 12 mins on Sundays. Operated by either Arriva London from Brixton or London General from Stockwell, with either DWs or WVLs respectively The 49 covered this not so many moons ago and went right through to Shepherds Bush! There was good reason it was split up. As for Battersea Bridge (staying slightly on topic), I wonder if there would be any mileage in swapping northern terminals between the 170 and 319? The 19 could be extended down to Latchmere to provide some replacement overlap, but the Battersea - Victoria section of the 170 always seems to be overloaded. Or am I just there at the wrong times? Moz That would be a good idea but then I think it would potentially be too long |
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Post by sw11simon on Jul 22, 2013 21:31:52 GMT
New route 449, Battersea Bridge to Crystal Palace The route would run via 319 to Tooting Bec/Stretham then via 249 to Crystal Palace; every 8 mins Mon-Sat and 12 mins on Sundays. Operated by either Arriva London from Brixton or London General from Stockwell, with either DWs or WVLs respectively The 49 covered this not so many moons ago and went right through to Shepherds Bush! There was good reason it was split up. As for Battersea Bridge (staying slightly on topic), I wonder if there would be any mileage in swapping northern terminals between the 170 and 319? The 19 could be extended down to Latchmere to provide some replacement overlap, but the Battersea - Victoria section of the 170 always seems to be overloaded. Or am I just there at the wrong times? Moz The 170 is pretty loaded in the peaks, not too bad off peak. However it really fills from Clapham Junction, when it is on it's own really. I think they'd still arrive at Battersea Bridge loaded up and I'm not sure people would bother changing, but just connect to the Underground at Sloane Square instead. It would probably disturb a lot of established travel patterns as well - they'd likely be quite a few objections. The best solution would be to get rid of that bridge in Lombard Road and double deck the 170! I say that tongue in cheek of course... |
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Post by sw11simon on Jul 22, 2013 21:43:49 GMT
9 extended to Waterloo 10 garage journeys extended to Stamford brook garage c1 extended from Victoria to new northern line station at Battersea via vauxhall bridge road, Pimlico and Chelsea bridge Good ideas, though I'd recommend the 9 go to Liverpool Street (where it used to go, as there's the 211 to Waterloo) Also the 10 could be extended to the now unused stand at Turnham Green Church (and this gives more space at Hammersmith, then move the 9 to former 211 stand and move H91 to former 9 stand.) The 9 to Waterloo I think is a good one - there is only the 139/176 from the West End, it would add some good connections. I have always thought Waterloo is rather poorly served from the West End by bus. It only serves one common stop with the 211, the furthest one away from the spot in question. To serve the new Northern Line Station at Battersea I'd re-route the 53 from Elephant via the 344 or 77 route... it's pretty light north of Elephant, plenty of capacity on 12/453 from there and opens new link Vauxhall to Old Kent Road, one of the commonest requests when I worked around there. |
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Post by twobellstogo on Jul 23, 2013 8:03:14 GMT
To serve the new Northern Line Station at Battersea I'd re-route the 53 from Elephant via the 344 or 77 route... it's pretty light north of Elephant, plenty of capacity on 12/453 from there and opens new link Vauxhall to Old Kent Road, one of the commonest requests when I worked around there. I'd leave the 53 well alone : plenty of people commute into zone 1 from Plumstead/Woolwich/Blackheath and they wouldn't appreciate having to change buses. I'd say it's probably best for a completely new route to do Battersea - Old Kent Road. |
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Post by M1104 on Jul 23, 2013 10:48:06 GMT
The 49 covered this not so many moons ago and went right through to Shepherds Bush! There was good reason it was split up. As for Battersea Bridge (staying slightly on topic), I wonder if there would be any mileage in swapping northern terminals between the 170 and 319? The 19 could be extended down to Latchmere to provide some replacement overlap, but the Battersea - Victoria section of the 170 always seems to be overloaded. Or am I just there at the wrong times? Moz The 170 is pretty loaded in the peaks, not too bad off peak. However it really fills from Clapham Junction, when it is on it's own really. I think they'd still arrive at Battersea Bridge loaded up and I'm not sure people would bother changing, but just connect to the Underground at Sloane Square instead. It would probably disturb a lot of established travel patterns as well - they'd likely be quite a few objections. The best solution would be to get rid of that bridge in Lombard Road and double deck the 170! I say that tongue in cheek of course... When I did the route as the 239 there were heavy loadings at Vicarage Crescent towards Victoria in the weekday mornings and heavy disembarkment towards Clapham Junction in the afternoon/evening. Like you said I suspect there would be heavy opposition to a change if the northern terminus no longer served Victoria. |
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Post by M1104 on Jul 23, 2013 11:12:29 GMT
Good ideas, though I'd recommend the 9 go to Liverpool Street (where it used to go, as there's the 211 to Waterloo) Also the 10 could be extended to the now unused stand at Turnham Green Church (and this gives more space at Hammersmith, then move the 9 to former 211 stand and move H91 to former 9 stand.) The 9 to Waterloo I think is a good one - there is only the 139/176 from the West End, it would add some good connections. I have always thought Waterloo is rather poorly served from the West End by bus. It only serves one common stop with the 211, the furthest one away from the spot in question. To serve the new Northern Line Station at Battersea I'd re-route the 53 from Elephant via the 344 or 77 route... it's pretty light north of Elephant, plenty of capacity on 12/453 from there and opens new link Vauxhall to Old Kent Road, one of the commonest requests when I worked around there. I agree with the Vauxhall to Old Kent Road bus link, though I had for a long time thought on the idea of extending the 156 (via 196 and 168) to the Old Kent Road Tescos. I suspect with the new northern line terminus due at Battersea, there may be a new/existing route planned which would start from there going further south towards Clapham/Tooting/Wandsworth/Putney. I wouldn't be surprised seeing as such routes exist at other south London tube terminuses; Brixton, Wimbledon, Elephant and Castle and Morden. |
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Post by Paul on Jul 23, 2013 15:35:47 GMT
To serve the new Northern Line Station at Battersea I'd re-route the 53 from Elephant via the 344 or 77 route... it's pretty light north of Elephant, plenty of capacity on 12/453 from there and opens new link Vauxhall to Old Kent Road, one of the commonest requests when I worked around there. I'd leave the 53 well alone : plenty of people commute into zone 1 from Plumstead/Woolwich/Blackheath and they wouldn't appreciate having to change buses. I'd say it's probably best for a completely new route to do Battersea - Old Kent Road. My dad drives the 53 and says re-routing it away from the middle of town would be a bad idea. He says that while most people are off the bus by St Thomas's when going into town when he comes out of town he picks up a great number of people who travel beyond Deptford and for whom a 453 is of no use. He also says that he gets asked a lot for Greenwich and while the 188 links the eastern part of the West End to Greenwich there's nothing for the Piccadilly Circus/Trafalgar Square area. Could this not be combined with the desire around here to link the West End to London Bridge and have a route running something like Piccadilly Circus - Trafalgar Square - Westminster - Waterloo - Southwark Street - London Bridge - Canada Water - Evelyn Street - Creek Road - Greenwich |
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Post by sw11simon on Jul 23, 2013 16:55:34 GMT
I'd leave the 53 well alone : plenty of people commute into zone 1 from Plumstead/Woolwich/Blackheath and they wouldn't appreciate having to change buses. I'd say it's probably best for a completely new route to do Battersea - Old Kent Road. My dad drives the 53 and says re-routing it away from the middle of town would be a bad idea. He says that while most people are off the bus by St Thomas's when going into town when he comes out of town he picks up a great number of people who travel beyond Deptford and for whom a 453 is of no use. He also says that he gets asked a lot for Greenwich and while the 188 links the eastern part of the West End to Greenwich there's nothing for the Piccadilly Circus/Trafalgar Square area. Could this not be combined with the desire around here to link the West End to London Bridge and have a route running something like Piccadilly Circus - Trafalgar Square - Westminster - Waterloo - Southwark Street - London Bridge - Canada Water - Evelyn Street - Creek Road - Greenwich When I think of new links I try and think of ways to do things without great cost, as they are realistic. Yes, diverting the 53 at St Thomas' would break some journeys but in the scheme of things it would not cause too much inconvenience as there is currently over-capacity on the combined 12/53/453 from Elephant northwards. It would create a nice new link and would be at minimum extra cost. I try and put a business head on, not a fantasy one! London Bridge could really do with a link to the west end, I would agree with that, but it wouldn't be a 188A for me. I live near Wandsworth, from where there is one route to west end as well. Just enhance on our 9 extension and send the 9 or 139 along Stamford Street. Passengers on the 188 can easily change at Elephant for a west end bus. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2013 7:47:48 GMT
What about extending a Bus Route from Crystal Palace to Lower Sydenham e.g: 417,322, Via the 202 way because there is no links to places like Clapham to that area
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