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Post by mrhk on Aug 17, 2024 13:54:00 GMT
Now with the 482, the H32 seems a little useless. Whilst it does have a lot of use with passengers it merely now mirrors the 482 between Southall and Hounslow West and from there, passengers can just use routes 81, 222 or 203 to Hounslow Bus Station. You could also argue that the 111 also provides a quicker service from Heston to Hounslow than the H32 currently does. Maybe an extension at either end (I believe one to Hayes is impending) would make it a little more useful.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Aug 17, 2024 19:44:51 GMT
Now with the 482, the H32 seems a little useless. Whilst it does have a lot of use with passengers it merely now mirrors the 482 between Southall and Hounslow West and from there, passengers can just use routes 81, 222 or 203 to Hounslow Bus Station. You could also argue that the 111 also provides a quicker service from Heston to Hounslow than the H32 currently does. Maybe an extension at either end (I believe one to Hayes is impending) would make it a little more useful. In the same area, something I feel is missing is a direct bus from Heathrow T4 to either Heathrow Central (TfL bus, I mean) or to Hounslow bus station. I know there's the Piccadilly Line but long-distance travel from T4 is impossible without multiple changes. |
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Post by mrhk on Aug 18, 2024 21:03:02 GMT
Now with the 482, the H32 seems a little useless. Whilst it does have a lot of use with passengers it merely now mirrors the 482 between Southall and Hounslow West and from there, passengers can just use routes 81, 222 or 203 to Hounslow Bus Station. You could also argue that the 111 also provides a quicker service from Heston to Hounslow than the H32 currently does. Maybe an extension at either end (I believe one to Hayes is impending) would make it a little more useful. In the same area, something I feel is missing is a direct bus from Heathrow T4 to either Heathrow Central (TfL bus, I mean) or to Hounslow bus station. I know there's the Piccadilly Line but long-distance travel from T4 is impossible without multiple changes. I feel like that could be sorted with the 482 and 423 swapping routing between Hatton X and Terminal 5. However, I think its alright as it is as passengers can get 203 to West or even further to Hatton to switch routes there. |
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Post by jake on Aug 26, 2024 18:33:46 GMT
Possibly already said but
the 228 is the worst route ever. all of it’s direct routes are served by other buses with a much higher pvr. the route is more direct when it’s on diversion! barely anyone even uses it because to catch it is so rare, it’s easier to walk then to take it. I really do feel like it would be so much more useful if buses came more often, but it’s just so pointless that if I were ever to use it I’d have to plan my journey around it’s arrival time. the only unique parts of the route where it isn’t overshadowed by the likes of all the buses at WJ and the links from White City to Ladbroke Grove are really hs2 Old Oak Common and White City estate, but hs2 has plans to get served by more buses and the whole estate is pretty much left to be dependent on the 283. and tfl actually believe that it’s supposed to help with the 18’s demand when it pops up every 30mins!
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Post by Busboy105 on Aug 26, 2024 18:43:32 GMT
Possibly already said but the 228 is the worst route ever. all of it’s direct routes are served by other buses with a much higher pvr. the route is more direct when it’s on diversion! barely anyone even uses it because to catch it is so rare, it’s easier to walk then to take it. I really do feel like it would be so much more useful if buses came more often, but it’s just so pointless that if I were ever to use it I’d have to plan my journey around it’s arrival time. the only unique parts of the route where it isn’t overshadowed by the likes of all the buses at WJ and the links from White City to Ladbroke Grove are really hs2 Old Oak Common and White City estate, but hs2 has plans to get served by more buses and the whole estate is pretty much left to be dependent on the 283. and tfl actually believe that it’s supposed to help with the 18’s demand when it pops up every 30mins! Maybe when old oak common station opens it might bring more patronage to the route but it wouldn't surprise me to see it withdrawn in the next couple years |
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Post by southlondonbus on Aug 26, 2024 19:55:11 GMT
Less then a week to go before we know of the 310 will be joining this thread.
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Post by lonmark on Aug 26, 2024 20:35:42 GMT
Less then a week to go before we know of the 310 will be joining this thread. Oh come on!!!! 310 haven't start yet and how do you know this bus route 310 will be a useless route??? |
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Post by southlondonbus on Aug 26, 2024 20:46:44 GMT
Less then a week to go before we know of the 310 will be joining this thread. Oh come on!!!! 310 haven't start yet and how do you know this bus route 310 will be a useless route??? It was more tongue in cheek that the speculation of its future will begin next Saturday |
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Post by sdaniel on Aug 26, 2024 21:28:41 GMT
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Post by ServerKing on Sept 1, 2024 7:28:27 GMT
Oh come on!!!! 310 haven't start yet and how do you know this bus route 310 will be a useless route??? It was more tongue in cheek that the speculation of its future will begin next Saturday It must be a quiet news day. The papers have already put the boot in  though calling enthusiasts 'geeks' is uncalled for   |
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Post by Busboy105 on Sept 1, 2024 9:22:09 GMT
You're too quick @serverking
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Post by sam97 on Sept 1, 2024 9:44:11 GMT
Now with the 482, the H32 seems a little useless. Whilst it does have a lot of use with passengers it merely now mirrors the 482 between Southall and Hounslow West and from there, passengers can just use routes 81, 222 or 203 to Hounslow Bus Station. You could also argue that the 111 also provides a quicker service from Heston to Hounslow than the H32 currently does. Maybe an extension at either end (I believe one to Hayes is impending) would make it a little more useful. I’m sorry but I sometimes use the 482 from time to time, the H32 is anything but useless. Like you mentioned, there are decent loads, especially in the early mornings, but also it helps take pressure off the busy 120 as well. Even so the 120 still have heavy loads. I personally think the H32 is serving its purpose well as current. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 1, 2024 16:23:12 GMT
Now with the 482, the H32 seems a little useless. Whilst it does have a lot of use with passengers it merely now mirrors the 482 between Southall and Hounslow West and from there, passengers can just use routes 81, 222 or 203 to Hounslow Bus Station. You could also argue that the 111 also provides a quicker service from Heston to Hounslow than the H32 currently does. Maybe an extension at either end (I believe one to Hayes is impending) would make it a little more useful. I’m sorry but I sometimes use the 482 from time to time, the H32 is anything but useless. Like you mentioned, there are decent loads, especially in the early mornings, but also it helps take pressure off the busy 120 as well. Even so the 120 still have heavy loads. I personally think the H32 is serving its purpose well as current. Furthermore, given that route H32, previously 232, has been around longer than route 482, I feel that if anything route H32 is more established as useful than route 482 in that area at least, even if not the Heathrow area. |
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Post by YX18KVJ (DLE30221) on Sept 1, 2024 20:51:23 GMT
I’m sorry but I sometimes use the 482 from time to time, the H32 is anything but useless. Like you mentioned, there are decent loads, especially in the early mornings, but also it helps take pressure off the busy 120 as well. Even so the 120 still have heavy loads. I personally think the H32 is serving its purpose well as current. Furthermore, given that route H32, previously 232, has been around longer than route 482, I feel that if anything route H32 is more established as useful than route 482 in that area at least, even if not the Heathrow area. The 482 is still useful, and is popular in the Heathrow area. 482 shouldn't be deemed useless just because of it's duplication of H32/490. iirc the 482 does get heavy loads in the Hounslow West area, so it serves use there. The x20 minute frequency is quite unnecessary imo. If every x15 minutes is fine for the route then I think the increase is welcome. |
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Post by mrhk on Sept 1, 2024 21:06:34 GMT
I’m sorry but I sometimes use the 482 from time to time, the H32 is anything but useless. Like you mentioned, there are decent loads, especially in the early mornings, but also it helps take pressure off the busy 120 as well. Even so the 120 still have heavy loads. I personally think the H32 is serving its purpose well as current. Furthermore, given that route H32, previously 232, has been around longer than route 482, I feel that if anything route H32 is more established as useful than route 482 in that area at least, even if not the Heathrow area. Yes but look how easily replaceable the H32 is now that the 482 is here. I understand pre-2008, the H32 was the sole route from Covent Way to Hounslow West, however now that the 482 is here, most journeys can be done using that and a change at Hounslow West or a much more direct 120. Sure it is the more busier route via Covent Way to Hounslow however it doesn't really connected areas that aren't already connected with other routes. Maybe with the 427 essentially being cut in half now, that could replace it entirely and allow for areas in Heston to be connected to places north of Southall. |
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