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Post by LX09FBJ on May 14, 2013 21:06:18 GMT
I'd knew the 111 would appear! ;D I'd would say the route is quite boring (apart from the sections Hampton-Kingston and Cranford-Heathrow or the fast bits). The 111 can be a bore in peak times however between Hampton Court and Kingston. 216 is another boring route in my opinion. Regarding the 111 what do you expect. Goes no where interesting at all apart from Kingston. The 111 is the most boring route I've ever done I fell asleep when I took that from Hounslow to Kingston was so dead. The 111 is one of those routes which varies dramatically depending on the time of day. I once missed one on a Sunday because it was so full! But yes you can often have the whole upper deck (but that means the journey is faster!) IMHO Hounslow's only interesting because of the ADEs (and the sheer varaity of types there)
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Post by Hassaan on May 14, 2013 22:14:47 GMT
I quite like the 111 every now and again - the bit in Hampton/Hanworth always makes me lose my bearings as the bus makes three 90 degree left turns in quick succession! Also some of the drivers absolutely cane the ADEs along Hampton Court. That said, the last time I went on it, the driver hit a lamp post and knocked the nearside mirror clean off! I almost lost the will to live when I went on the 117 once. Maybe because I was half expecting a more interesting ride, having come off the 216 which runs along quite a few fast roads. I often drive along much of the 117 route between Feltham and Staines when I do the Windsor rail replacement job. I did the 117 back in February and I didn't mind it took 45 minutes Hounslow - Staines (same as the 203) and around 10-11am it wasn't as busy as it could be (only most seats taken and few people standing). The bus even grounded on humps in Ashford and a pothole in Feltham!
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Post by vjaska on May 14, 2013 23:38:33 GMT
I quite like the 111 every now and again - the bit in Hampton/Hanworth always makes me lose my bearings as the bus makes three 90 degree left turns in quick succession! Also some of the drivers absolutely cane the ADEs along Hampton Court. That said, the last time I went on it, the driver hit a lamp post and knocked the nearside mirror clean off Indeed, I only did it the once but was intrigued when I heard that it served or ran past 4 different Hanworth Roads - I also had a nice VA as well ;D
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Post by sw11simon on May 15, 2013 9:44:35 GMT
Oi! Leave the 133 out of this, it's probably the best route I've done. The bit from Liverpool Street to Borough is a bit twisty and trafficy, but the rest is pure racetrack! Moz Guessing the N133 is quite satisfying, for the night-time running speeds and if all goes wrong there's 17 mins turnaround in Mitcham. I personally would like to see this extended to Morden via the 118 route at night, but that's another story............ I'm not a driver (of a bus anyway) but out of the routes I've travelled on recently the one which sent me to sleep the most was the 51. Miles upon miles of suburban houses that just looked the same (though 'The Oval' interested me, a bit like a village green somewhere in SE London)............ Extending the 118 to Morden was requested as part of a public consultation a few years ago... TFL's answer was (if I recall correctly, this is not word for word) it felt the N44/N155 served all points that would be covered within a reasonable walking distance and it would not be cost effective. If I was in charge of some funds to extend a south London night bus it would be N19 to St Leonard's Church via the 319 route. There would probably be objections from Broomwood Road though, it may have to compromise and go via the 219 route between Clapham Junction and Tooting Bec.
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Post by vjaska on May 15, 2013 9:47:45 GMT
Guessing the N133 is quite satisfying, for the night-time running speeds and if all goes wrong there's 17 mins turnaround in Mitcham. I personally would like to see this extended to Morden via the 118 route at night, but that's another story............ I'm not a driver (of a bus anyway) but out of the routes I've travelled on recently the one which sent me to sleep the most was the 51. Miles upon miles of suburban houses that just looked the same (though 'The Oval' interested me, a bit like a village green somewhere in SE London)............ Extending the 118 to Morden was requested as part of a public consultation a few years ago... TFL's answer was (if I recall correctly, this is not word for word) it felt the N44/N155 served all points that would be covered within a reasonable walking distance and it would not be cost effective. If I was in charge of some funds to extend a south London night bus it would be N19 to St Leonard's Church via the 319 route. There would probably be objections from Broomwood Road though, it may have to compromise and go via the 219 route between Clapham Junction and Tooting Bec. Why would there be objections from Broomwood Road residents?
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Post by westhamgeezer on May 15, 2013 11:15:34 GMT
Wouldnt say the 216 is boring, there are some nice bits aroun sunbury/hampton and fast bits too!! The 117 is boring as is the 290!
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Post by M1104 on May 15, 2013 14:14:20 GMT
Guessing the N133 is quite satisfying, for the night-time running speeds and if all goes wrong there's 17 mins turnaround in Mitcham. I personally would like to see this extended to Morden via the 118 route at night, but that's another story............ I'm not a driver (of a bus anyway) but out of the routes I've travelled on recently the one which sent me to sleep the most was the 51. Miles upon miles of suburban houses that just looked the same (though 'The Oval' interested me, a bit like a village green somewhere in SE London)............ Extending the 118 to Morden was requested as part of a public consultation a few years ago... I take it you mean the N133.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 23:24:38 GMT
Boring routes.. 362 and 376 the 362 I'm sure runs just to keep the batteries charged the 376 because it lacks variety of any sort.
The 20 is not a boring route for drivers. There's not a driver I know of in our garage that won't bite you're hand off for a duty on it.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 23:39:14 GMT
All i can say is the bus with no roofs in Central London. The reason it does not accept Oyster cards -.-
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Post by COBO on May 16, 2013 0:34:38 GMT
All i can say is the bus with no roofs in Central London. The reason it does not accept Oyster cards -.- But those buses with no roofs in Central London are for sightseeing how can they be boring! Why do they need oyster cards?
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Post by sw11simon on May 16, 2013 4:38:29 GMT
Extending the 118 to Morden was requested as part of a public consultation a few years ago... TFL's answer was (if I recall correctly, this is not word for word) it felt the N44/N155 served all points that would be covered within a reasonable walking distance and it would not be cost effective. If I was in charge of some funds to extend a south London night bus it would be N19 to St Leonard's Church via the 319 route. There would probably be objections from Broomwood Road though, it may have to compromise and go via the 219 route between Clapham Junction and Tooting Bec. Why would there be objections from Broomwood Road residents? It is one of those NIMBY people roads. You may not have awareness of how long it took to re-convert the 319 back to double decks. The 319 desperately needed double decks, and I can testify this as I used to live in Tooting Bec Road and it was my local route. Time and time again I was unable to board buses as they were full, especially travelling south from Clapham Junction. It was Broomwood Road residents objecting on the grounds of noise and privacy. It is a narrow residential road, then again it has had a bus route along it for years (49 then 319), mainly because it is the best way to serve Northcote Road. I would not be surprised if some agreement not to introduce all night services was made as a compromise to finally put double decks on the 319. Having said all that, I've gone a bit off topic. I do not think it is a boring route at all. When I was an employee of Go-Ahead it was one of the routes I most wanted the company gain as I have always fancied driving it. As some of you know, I've driven loads of routes over the years I worked for the buses and I definitely found the short, quiet ones most boring. The two routes I found the most boring as a driver, C1 and C10, have both subsequently been extended and would not be so bad now. Picking two routes mentioned here, as a driver I always quite liked the 507 as it is busy and you get no hassle. The 337, albeit a straight road, would feature as one of my absolute favourites, even though it does not tick the Central London trunk route box which I generally prefer to suburban driving. Again, busy enough to pass the time and very little hassle from customers.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2013 5:53:40 GMT
If the 319 had never been single deck in the first place the problem wouldn't have arisen. As you say very busy south of Clapham Junction
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Post by 6HP502C on May 16, 2013 16:28:59 GMT
As a driver I found the 343 quite boring - too many 20mph roads with humps, plus I kept getting uninspiring buses from the 9034 to 9073 batch. The 344 was boring too, too short and the buses were too slow.
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Post by M1104 on May 16, 2013 20:31:45 GMT
The N37, when SW had it, was very boring overnight. The running time was plentiful meaning kerb crawling practically all the way. It was the only night route where I didn't mind the WVL over the PDL Trident.
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Post by DT 11 on May 16, 2013 22:34:11 GMT
As a driver I found the 343 quite boring - too many 20mph roads with humps, plus I kept getting uninspiring buses from the 9034 to 9073 batch. The 344 was boring too, too short and the buses were too slow. The most boring section of the 343 is New Cross Gate - Peckham via Brockley & Nunheaf. It takes so long and it drags along such a boring route. I could walk from New Cross Gate to Peckham and beat a 343 that's how slow and dead the journey is.
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