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Post by aaron1 on Oct 15, 2020 8:10:32 GMT
Why have non of the AC Willesden Green routes have not got LT I know 6 have failed but what about 52 98 260 302 460 N98
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Post by wirewiper on Oct 15, 2020 8:47:15 GMT
Why have non of the AC Willesden Green routes have not got LT I know 6 have failed but what about 52 98 260 302 460 N98 The 52 would also fail a route test because of the tight turns in the Notting Hill Gate area (it was never passed for RML operation for that reason). It's also quite a constrained garage size-wise.
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Post by aaron1 on Oct 15, 2020 8:56:37 GMT
Why have non of the AC Willesden Green routes have not got LT I know 6 have failed but what about 52 98 260 302 460 N98 The 52 would also fail a route test because of the tight turns in the Notting Hill Gate area (it was never passed for RML operation for that reason). It's also quite a constrained garage size-wise. Are ok I thinking that 52 and 260 will be a great route for LT because get very busy
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Post by wirewiper on Oct 15, 2020 9:00:38 GMT
The 52 would also fail a route test because of the tight turns in the Notting Hill Gate area (it was never passed for RML operation for that reason). It's also quite a constrained garage size-wise. Are ok I thinking that 52 and 260 will be a great route for LT because get very busy LTs have the same capacity as a standard double-decker despite being longer. The only advantage might be slightly quicker boarding and alighting times as there are two exit doors instead of one.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 15, 2020 11:48:35 GMT
Are ok I thinking that 52 and 260 will be a great route for LT because get very busy LTs have the same capacity as a standard double-decker despite being longer. The only advantage might be slightly quicker boarding and alighting times as there are two exit doors instead of one. LT's have a lower capacity than standard deckers and were exempted from the overall capacity rule that other buses adhere to.
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Post by southlondonbus on Oct 15, 2020 12:05:09 GMT
LTs have the same capacity as a standard double-decker despite being longer. The only advantage might be slightly quicker boarding and alighting times as there are two exit doors instead of one. LT's have a lower capacity than standard deckers and were exempted from the overall capacity rule that other buses adhere to. I thought that aswell. I think its 82 instead of 87.
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Post by greg on Oct 16, 2020 8:32:30 GMT
What routes other then current have been tested for NBFL? Apparently the 139 was tested and failed with a particular turn into Golders Green Bus Station. I'm not sure about the 112 (also wondering if the blindsets are from a standard decker as it's reported to be older rolls). Photo credit to Patrick Skehan Wasnt LT648 the one that crashed into Lidl in Cricklewood? LT648, LT801 and other LTs have older Enviro blinds from the 266 I believe. Also, was there a new LT test under the 139 going to Metroline, because the reason it failed previously because of the stand at West Hampstead but it now terminates at Golders Green?
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Post by greenboy on Oct 16, 2020 8:36:39 GMT
Apparently the 139 was tested and failed with a particular turn into Golders Green Bus Station. I'm not sure about the 112 (also wondering if the blindsets are from a standard decker as it's reported to be older rolls). Photo credit to Patrick Skehan Wasnt LT648 the one that crashed into Lidl in Cricklewood? LT648, LT801 and other LTs have older Enviro blinds from the 266 I believe. Also, was there a new LT test under the 139 going to Metroline, because the reason it failed previously because of the stand at West Hampstead but it now terminates at Golders Green? Yes I think it was the West Hampstead stand that the 139 failed on, LTs should be ok now although stand space is limited at Golders Green.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 16, 2020 11:43:29 GMT
Apparently the 139 was tested and failed with a particular turn into Golders Green Bus Station. I'm not sure about the 112 (also wondering if the blindsets are from a standard decker as it's reported to be older rolls). Photo credit to Patrick Skehan Wasnt LT648 the one that crashed into Lidl in Cricklewood? LT648, LT801 and other LTs have older Enviro blinds from the 266 I believe. Also, was there a new LT test under the 139 going to Metroline, because the reason it failed previously because of the stand at West Hampstead but it now terminates at Golders Green? Yes, it was the stand at West Hampstead that was the issue.
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Post by thewintersoldier on Oct 16, 2020 14:16:49 GMT
Wasnt LT648 the one that crashed into Lidl in Cricklewood? LT648, LT801 and other LTs have older Enviro blinds from the 266 I believe. Also, was there a new LT test under the 139 going to Metroline, because the reason it failed previously because of the stand at West Hampstead but it now terminates at Golders Green? Yes, it was the stand at West Hampstead that was the issue. No surprises there at all!!!!
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Post by redbus on Oct 18, 2020 21:01:14 GMT
Wasnt LT648 the one that crashed into Lidl in Cricklewood? LT648, LT801 and other LTs have older Enviro blinds from the 266 I believe. Also, was there a new LT test under the 139 going to Metroline, because the reason it failed previously because of the stand at West Hampstead but it now terminates at Golders Green? Yes, it was the stand at West Hampstead that was the issue. The West Hampstead West End Green stand is still an official turn point, so arguably whatever buses are used need to be able to negotiate it.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 18, 2020 21:11:23 GMT
Yes, it was the stand at West Hampstead that was the issue. The West Hampstead West End Green stand is still an official turn point, so arguably whatever buses are used need to be able to negotiate it. I think the problem was multiple buses on stand at once rather than the odd turning 139.
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Post by redbus on Oct 19, 2020 18:48:53 GMT
The West Hampstead West End Green stand is still an official turn point, so arguably whatever buses are used need to be able to negotiate it. I think the problem was multiple buses on stand at once rather than the odd turning 139. Multiple buses on stand is certainly an issue due to the length of the LT - you could only fit one bus on stand with no potential to expand the stand to accommodate a second LT. What I am unclear about is whether the LT can actually make the turn onto stand in the first place without changes.
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Post by evergreenadam on Oct 19, 2020 18:55:35 GMT
What routes other then current have been tested for NBFL? Think the 94 failed due to tight turns and speed humps at South Parade.
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Post by evergreenadam on Oct 19, 2020 18:56:28 GMT
What routes other then current have been tested for NBFL? Apparently the 139 was tested and failed with a particular turn into Golders Green Bus Station. I'm not sure about the 112 (also wondering if the blindsets are from a standard decker as it's reported to be older rolls). Photo credit to Patrick Skehan Double deckers on the 112 would be good, don’t care what type!
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