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Post by ThinLizzy on Mar 27, 2021 20:31:03 GMT
Even if the 148 is not renewed (which is looking increasingly likely), there will probably be another route taking over its western end, so that might get some of the current 148 fleet. However my gut feeling is it won’t be the first route to gain LTs in the new round of likely Central London changes. I still feel a GoAhead route will convert using an assortment of LTs from PVR cuts in July or August. But I don’t know which one. My reasoning is to free up buses to transfer to the Blue Triangle school routes gained from September. Unlike the current school extras (where virtually anything is acceptable) they need buses suitable for 5 year contract. I would guess the 148 will end on 30th September (as that is when contract finishes), so 1st October will be implementation day for related changes. I suspect some of them will go straight to mid life refurb (there is £25-50m allocated in TfLs financial plan for this), although due to age the first approx 150 LTs will be a priority for mid life, so the spares might become a refurb float The oldest LTs include those used by Arriva (early ones, part of route 38) Abellio (routes 24, 27); GoAhead (routes 11, 87); Metroline (routes 91, 390); RATP (routes 9, 148). Most of these will be nearer 8 years old by time they get done I wouldn't be surprised if LTs end up directly on the Blue Triangle school routes. The garage is already familiar with them, and it's not as if they are being treated as special flagship vehicles any more. I mentioned this on another thread, the ones from the 148 plus others from other route cuts could end up on the 5, with the WVLs going onto the schools and EHs being used as part of a bid for the 101.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2021 20:37:48 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if LTs end up directly on the Blue Triangle school routes. The garage is already familiar with them, and it's not as if they are being treated as special flagship vehicles any more. I mentioned this on another thread, the ones from the 148 plus others from other route cuts could end up on the 5, with the WVLs going onto the schools and EHs being used as part of a bid for the 101. I know LTs have lost a lot of benefits now they are front door boarding but the two exit doors would still be useful at busy stops on the 5 at places like Barking Station. I am not fan of the LT but think the 5 is actually a perfect route for them. The same could be said for the 115 as this is another busy route.
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Post by TB123 on Jun 10, 2021 16:53:41 GMT
Apologies in advance if already covered, but do we know what routes not allocated LTs are cleared for their use or have used them?
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Post by rift on Jun 10, 2021 16:59:31 GMT
Apologies in advance if already covered, but do we know what routes not allocated LTs are cleared for their use or have used them? Routes I can think of are the 32, 238 and 332, while one ran on the 47 for a one-off occasion.
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Post by LK65EBO on Jun 10, 2021 17:08:03 GMT
Apologies in advance if already covered, but do we know what routes not allocated LTs are cleared for their use or have used them? 285, 671
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Post by WH241 on Jun 10, 2021 17:31:53 GMT
Apologies in advance if already covered, but do we know what routes not allocated LTs are cleared for their use or have used them? 17 was mentioned a while back about getting a part allocation. Also the 123 has had a school V working so assumed this is cleared.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 10, 2021 17:33:43 GMT
Apologies in advance if already covered, but do we know what routes not allocated LTs are cleared for their use or have used them? I don't think it's been confirmed yet. However if you let me speculate a bit I'd imagine some would be kept around as refurb floats for the refurbishment programme that will start soon. Should even more be released I would imagine they stay within operators, routes which have seen strays/partial allocations could be potential homes. Arriva: 123, 133 Go Ahead: 5, 176 Metroline: 32, 332 Stagecoach: 238 Abellio: 156, 285 RATP: 293 Although that's just a guess notably 133 and 156s incidents seem to have been extremely one off.
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Post by WH241 on Jun 10, 2021 17:37:25 GMT
Apologies in advance if already covered, but do we know what routes not allocated LTs are cleared for their use or have used them? I don't think it's been confirmed yet. However if you let me speculate a bit I'd imagine some would be kept around as refurb floats for the refurbishment programme that will start soon. Should even more be released I would imagine they stay within operators, routes which have seen strays/partial allocations could be potential homes. Arriva: 123, 133 Go Ahead: 5, 176 Metroline: 32, 332 Stagecoach: 238 Abellio: 156, 285 RATP: 293 Although that's just a guess notably 133 and 156s incidents seem to have been extremely one off. Another good fit would be the 115 if cleared, this could release Hybrids to the 5 to make the whole allocation EH.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 10, 2021 18:07:41 GMT
I don't think it's been confirmed yet. However if you let me speculate a bit I'd imagine some would be kept around as refurb floats for the refurbishment programme that will start soon. Should even more be released I would imagine they stay within operators, routes which have seen strays/partial allocations could be potential homes. Arriva: 123, 133 Go Ahead: 5, 176 Metroline: 32, 332 Stagecoach: 238 Abellio: 156, 285 RATP: 293 Although that's just a guess notably 133 and 156s incidents seem to have been extremely one off. Another good fit would be the 115 if cleared, this could release Hybrids to the 5 to make the whole allocation EH. I would imagine they'd just put the LTs on the 5 directly to outst the WVLs, the 115 going LT when the 5 already uses them half the time might be a bit of hassle.
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Post by BK15AZR on Jun 10, 2021 21:58:29 GMT
Apologies in advance if already covered, but do we know what routes not allocated LTs are cleared for their use or have used them? 17 was mentioned a while back about getting a part allocation. Also the 123 has had a school V working so assumed this is cleared. LTs have been used on the 184 and 355 school extras as well.
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Post by M1104 on Jun 11, 2021 0:12:41 GMT
Apologies in advance if already covered, but do we know what routes not allocated LTs are cleared for their use or have used them? One appeared on the N155 for a short time, which was reported to be unauthorised and swiftly swapped over. The 45 was tested before its cutback to Elephant and should be ok as there were no reported issues south of the river.
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Post by M1104 on Jun 11, 2021 11:49:35 GMT
One Abellio LT is reported to be out of use for trials with engine modifications and similar work. There will need to be a float for refurbishment work. Would be interesting to know what's being ammended with the engine. They could do with more powerful electric motors as they do seem rather gutless for a hybrid.
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Post by aaron1 on Jun 11, 2021 17:07:58 GMT
I wounded if more LT come on more school route since one came on the 671 like on maybe come on like 632
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Post by BK15AZR on Jun 11, 2021 17:23:45 GMT
I wounded if more LT come on more school route since one came on the 671 like on maybe come on like 632 There's an one-off LT working on the 679 a while ago too so presumably RR can put these onto school routes.
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Post by aaron1 on Jun 11, 2021 18:55:31 GMT
Another thing is I wounded if the 332 will be fully converted to a LT I am seeing more now
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