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Post by vjaska on Oct 5, 2017 13:16:12 GMT
Lambeth have now started on the lights within Brixton Town Centre which are predominantly Urbis St. Giles - Acre Lane has had its examples converted last month meaning Acre Lane is fully LED lit bar one light (The columns have two lights - one overlooking the pavement and the other being the normal one overlooking the road and there is just pavement light not done due to being within a construction light). The section of Porden Road that didn't succumb to the construction site by the town hall has also been converted to LED (Buckner Road's examples were removed due to it becoming pedestrianised once the construction works are finished).
Coldharbour Lane has also been done bar three lights by KFC & Premier Inn. The conversion keeps the original exterior of the light including it's bulb cover but inside has around 8 LED lights rather than one standard SON bulb - you'll notice which ones are done if your not passing through at night as the bulb covers have been given their first clean in 20 years lol.
I've noticed on my recent travels that lots of boroughs are stepping up their numbers of LED's - Hillingdon are moving at fairly rapid pace, Hounslow has started to install some in the parts of the town centre that didn't receive any during its PFI scheme in 2015 or 2016 & Wandsworth have converted some of the side roads along Lavender Hill despite not finishing all the main roads first - Brent is still the only borough seemingly not interested in LED's with evidence of this in Cricklewood where recent junction works near the bus garage have seen new columns with Industria Arcs installed.
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Post by M1104 on Oct 5, 2017 13:37:31 GMT
Lambeth have now started on the lights within Brixton Town Centre which are predominantly Urbis St. Giles - Acre Lane has had its examples converted last month meaning Acre Lane is fully LED lit bar one light (The columns have two lights - one overlooking the pavement and the other being the normal one overlooking the road and there is just pavement light not done due to being within a construction light). The section of Porden Road that didn't succumb to the construction site by the town hall has also been converted to LED (Buckner Road's examples were removed due to it becoming pedestrianised once the construction works are finished). Coldharbour Lane has also been done bar three lights by KFC & Premier Inn. The conversion keeps the original exterior of the light including it's bulb cover but inside has around 8 LED lights rather than one standard SON bulb - you'll notice which ones are done if your not passing through at night as the bulb covers have been given their first clean in 20 years lol. I've noticed on my recent travels that lots of boroughs are stepping up their numbers of LED's - Hillingdon are moving at fairly rapid pace, Hounslow has started to install some in the parts of the town centre that didn't receive any during its PFI scheme in 2015 or 2016 & Wandsworth have converted some of the side roads along Lavender Hill despite not finishing all the main roads first - Brent is still the only borough seemingly not interested in LED's with evidence of this in Cricklewood where recent junction works near the bus garage have seen new columns with Industria Arcs installed. I will take a look at the main lamps in the Brixton Road/ Acre Lane area. To be honest I thought the council wouldn't play around with them for a good while yet, or at least wait until older ones are done. Yes I also noticed the side streets off Lavender Hill fully replaced but haven't noticed any others of that variant throughout the borough, bearing in mind I haven't really noticed so maybe there are some more about. I'm not too familiar with the set up in the borough of Brent and Cricklewood, do any by chance have any concrete lamp posts? I'm guessing not as they are usually more confined to outer boroughs like Sutton, which thankfully still has an abundant of the breed. Would still be interested to see what lamps they have which may have survived from as far back as the 1960s and 1970s. |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 5, 2017 14:48:34 GMT
Lambeth have now started on the lights within Brixton Town Centre which are predominantly Urbis St. Giles - Acre Lane has had its examples converted last month meaning Acre Lane is fully LED lit bar one light (The columns have two lights - one overlooking the pavement and the other being the normal one overlooking the road and there is just pavement light not done due to being within a construction light). The section of Porden Road that didn't succumb to the construction site by the town hall has also been converted to LED (Buckner Road's examples were removed due to it becoming pedestrianised once the construction works are finished). Coldharbour Lane has also been done bar three lights by KFC & Premier Inn. The conversion keeps the original exterior of the light including it's bulb cover but inside has around 8 LED lights rather than one standard SON bulb - you'll notice which ones are done if your not passing through at night as the bulb covers have been given their first clean in 20 years lol. I've noticed on my recent travels that lots of boroughs are stepping up their numbers of LED's - Hillingdon are moving at fairly rapid pace, Hounslow has started to install some in the parts of the town centre that didn't receive any during its PFI scheme in 2015 or 2016 & Wandsworth have converted some of the side roads along Lavender Hill despite not finishing all the main roads first - Brent is still the only borough seemingly not interested in LED's with evidence of this in Cricklewood where recent junction works near the bus garage have seen new columns with Industria Arcs installed. I will take a look at the main lamps in the Brixton Road/ Acre Lane area. To be honest I thought the council wouldn't play around with them for a good while yet, or at least wait until older ones are done. Yes I also noticed the side streets off Lavender Hill fully replaced but haven't noticed any others of that variant throughout the borough, bearing in mind I haven't really noticed so maybe there are some more about. I'm not too familiar with the set up in the borough of Brent and Cricklewood, do any by chance have any concrete lamp posts? I'm guessing not as they are usually more confined to outer boroughs like Sutton, which thankfully still has an abundant of the breed. Would still be interested to see what lamps do they have which may have survived from as far back is the 1960s and 1970s. Haven't noticed any other side roads in Wandsworth being done yet so I'd presume they've only started on those. As for in Lambeth, the vast majority of the roads have been done so I can see why they're now tackling Brixton Town Centre (coincidentally, they are around the 20 year mark now) - I suspect the roads around Clapham High Street & Norwood Road will follow suit. Only a handful of roads now possess 1980's columns - Tulse Hills ones have been retained presumably because they were refurbished about 10 years ago but Mitcham Lane has started to see it's ones removed. Stockwell Road, Stockwell Park Walk, Clapham Common South & a tiny section of both Clapham Common North Side & Kennington Road also have 1980's columns which are still intact at the moment (Kennington Road lost some during the Oval works). Brent has no concrete lamps and is pretty much fully Philips right throughout the borough, the oldest of which would be around 1990 - that said, Lambeth & Ealing have young lamppost stock but still went for the LED switchover whilst Havering, Southend & Hertfordshire (the latter two not London but notable examples) have actually installed LED's onto their remaining concrete columns - Southend has a very large quantity of concrete columns as well. |
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Post by Hassaan on Oct 10, 2017 23:16:43 GMT
The section of the S4 between Banstead Lane South and Grange Road still has the yellow sodium lights and a significant number of concrete lampposts. Sutton along with Bexley and Hillingdon have some of the highest number of the yellow lights, although all of those seem at risk. As for concrete columns, Richmond have loads in side roads but I've not seen the yellow lights on any of them. However, main roads like A307 Kew Road still have a number of yellow lights! Hounslow's replacement programme was to finish at the end of this year, and Heston Road is still to be done. A small section of it had the columns replaced in 2008/2009 for no obvious reason, but the rest of it still has the old ones, mostly with the yellow lights. Near Lampton Corner, one of these lights still survive, which may be one of the only remaining examples left in the borough (the above Streetview link is from a nearby side road which was replaced years ago). There was also this more boring version from another side road in Heston. One thing I still don't understand is why some roads that got new columns between 2006 and 2009 had them replaced again in the above programme! I really want to take a photo or two of buses on roads which have the yellow lights, just for the effect. Guess I better hurry especially if I want to try and stick to main roads  I could do it by Lampton Corner which is by far the most local option, but if I wanted to travel I guess I could look at the 65 along Kew Road, or maybe even Hythe Avenue on the 422 (a route I really have a soft spot for  ). Wouldn't want to rate my chances with lower frequency routes in side roads! |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 11, 2017 0:34:25 GMT
The section of the S4 between Banstead Lane South and Grange Road still has the yellow sodium lights and a significant number of concrete lampposts. Sutton along with Bexley and Hillingdon have some of the highest number of the yellow lights, although all of those seem at risk. As for concrete columns, Richmond have loads in side roads but I've not seen the yellow lights on any of them. However, main roads like A307 Kew Road still have a number of yellow lights! Hounslow's replacement programme was to finish at the end of this year, and Heston Road is still to be done. A small section of it had the columns replaced in 2008/2009 for no obvious reason, but the rest of it still has the old ones, mostly with the yellow lights. Near Lampton Corner, one of these lights still survive, which may be one of the only remaining examples left in the borough (the above Streetview link is from a nearby side road which was replaced years ago). There was also this more boring version from another side road in Heston. One thing I still don't understand is why some roads that got new columns between 2006 and 2009 had them replaced again in the above programme! I really want to take a photo or two of buses on roads which have the yellow lights, just for the effect. Guess I better hurry especially if I want to try and stick to main roads I could do it by Lampton Corner which is by far the most local option, but if I wanted to travel I guess I could look at the 65 along Kew Road, or maybe even Hythe Avenue on the 422 (a route I really have a soft spot for ). Wouldn't want to rate my chances with lower frequency routes in side roads! Those ones in Sutton seem safe as the eastern side of the borough was done a good while ago but yet they don't seem interested in the western side which is where all the concrete columns are - very odd behaviour but great to see them surviving on - hopefully into 2018  The yellow lights would be classed as SOX lights - a lot of the SOX lights on the side roads in Sutton are Eleco GR's from memory (can't remember the name of the other SOX lights on the more main roads though). Richmond does indeed have pockets of main roads with Philips MA SOX lights such as on Kew Road & down near Hampton as well whilst a section of Upper Richmond Road has the now very rare Thorn Alpha 4 which can only be now found within London on Heston Road (as well as a few survivors of Hounslow's scheme dotted around the borough) & one example in Harringay in between the Westbury Avenue & The Roundway junctions in North London. A few roads in Bromley also still have Philips MA SOX lights despite the fact that many lights were replaced by LED's. It seems quite common for a PFI scheme to leave one or a few main roads out of the replacement program - the same happened in Lambeth which had it's program in 2005 - most main roads lost their 1970's & 1980's steel columns but some retained them with some roads still retaining them even to this day. Tulse Hill had it's 1980's columns refurbished at the same time as the scheme which saw a decorative base fitted to all it's examples - a few months ago, LED's replaced the Urbis ZX2's that had been on these columns since the late 1990's but the rest were just simply repainted black bar one column at St. Leonard's Church which still wears Lambeth 1990 livery of cream with a red base (this replaced the old livery which was white with a blue base). I look forward to your photo should you get around to doing it |
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Post by ServerKing on Oct 20, 2017 22:51:19 GMT
Lambeth have now started on the lights within Brixton Town Centre which are predominantly Urbis St. Giles - Acre Lane has had its examples converted last month meaning Acre Lane is fully LED lit bar one light (The columns have two lights - one overlooking the pavement and the other being the normal one overlooking the road and there is just pavement light not done due to being within a construction light). The section of Porden Road that didn't succumb to the construction site by the town hall has also been converted to LED (Buckner Road's examples were removed due to it becoming pedestrianised once the construction works are finished). Coldharbour Lane has also been done bar three lights by KFC & Premier Inn. The conversion keeps the original exterior of the light including it's bulb cover but inside has around 8 LED lights rather than one standard SON bulb - you'll notice which ones are done if your not passing through at night as the bulb covers have been given their first clean in 20 years lol. I've noticed on my recent travels that lots of boroughs are stepping up their numbers of LED's - Hillingdon are moving at fairly rapid pace, Hounslow has started to install some in the parts of the town centre that didn't receive any during its PFI scheme in 2015 or 2016 & Wandsworth have converted some of the side roads along Lavender Hill despite not finishing all the main roads first - Brent is still the only borough seemingly not interested in LED's with evidence of this in Cricklewood where recent junction works near the bus garage have seen new columns with Industria Arcs installed. Before I left Brentford no more fitted along Boston Manor Road, but most of them done across Hounslow except some back streets in Brentford and Isleworth (Algar Road is very poorly lit), most of Haringey main roads have LED, except Lordship Lane where they have a different type of near white light bulb, doesn't seem pink like the old school sodium ones, major roads like A10 have LEDs, and along Turnpike Lane. I guess they are more focused on the Stadium, and making every patch of land a permit parking zone, before turning their attention to the eventual demolition of Broadwater Farm... not sure if they are putting rent up to move people on and out, but Tottenham has become crazy expensive, I just want them to clean the streets of all the crap and abandoned fridges and builders waste. They want to re-brand some parts of Tottenham "West Tottenham", but I see that as being as successful as West Ham at the minute  |
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Post by M1104 on Dec 30, 2017 1:35:02 GMT
The street lamp upgrades within the side roads of Wandsworth borough have now reached parts of Clapham South and Balham. So far only the side streets to the west of the A24 have been done, ie the same side as Clapham South tube entrance. Tooting Bec and Tooting Broadway are yet to be invaded by the scheme but nevertheless I imagine the clock is ticking as the upgrades reach closer towards the borderline of the borough of Merton.
I haven't checked the side streets off Garrett Lane yet but Wandsworth itself seems to be untouched for the moment. I have noticed however that a lot in the Battersea and Clapham Junction areas have been done, perhaps suggesting that they were the first areas to have been treated.
I'm not sure if Putney has been touched yet although I know that the side streets off Putney Bridge Road are still with the original lamps from the 1980s/90s, witnessed whilst travelling on the 270.
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Post by vjaska on Dec 30, 2017 2:05:34 GMT
The street lamp upgrades within the side roads of Wandsworth borough have now reached parts of Clapham South and Balham. So far only the side streets to the west of the A24 have been done, ie the same side as Clapham South tube entrance. Tooting Bec and Tooting Broadway are yet to be invaded by the scheme but nevertheless I imagine the clock is ticking as the upgrades reach closer towards the borderline of the borough of Merton. I haven't checked the side streets of Garrett Lane yet but Wandsworth itself seems to be untouched for the moment. I have noticed however that a lot in the Battersea and Clapham Junction areas have been done, perhaps suggesting that they were the first areas to have been treated. I'm not sure if partner has been touched yet although I know that the side streets off Putney Bridge Road or still the original lamps from the 1980s/90s, witnessed whilst travelling on the 270. Yep the roads around Lavender Hill were done first - I noticed recently that they started on the side roads down that way. A large part of Brixton Town Centre has been done now - remaining roads within the town centre to be done are Brixton Road, Brixton Hill, Effra Road, St. Matthews Road (surprised they didn't do it when the road was closed to install the new bus lane), Stockwell Road & Stockwell Park Walk. The twin arm lights at the Brixton Road/Gresham Road/Stockwell Road junction and three lights on Coldharbour Lane are also outstanding. Meanwhile, the lights on Railton Road by Herne Hill Station have now been modified to LED as well Lastly, the 1980's columns on Stockwell Road, Clapham Common North Side & a small section of Kennington Road continue to survive with no replacements in site although at least one column on Stockwell Road was recently severely damaged by a car  However, the Lambeth section of Mitcham Lane has begun to lose it's 1980's columns which means it could be curtains for the remaining column that escaped the black livery imposed by Lambeth in the 2000's - it still wears cream with a red base although it does look a bit tatty. |
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Post by M1104 on Jan 15, 2018 13:38:45 GMT
Noticed along the 157 route that a small section of Stafford Road (between Epsom Road and Purley Way) still have their 1960's 'red into amber' lampposts, some having the longer style lamps seen on parts of motorways. With the upgrade being relatively rapid in recent times are there any other parts of Croydon borough that still have these style posts with their original lamps? I know that the ones in the Thornton Heath area by Whitehorse Lane mini roundabout have now sadly gone. Perhaps there are still some in the Old Coulsdon area or along the 407/434 route in the Whyteleafe South area?
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Post by ServerKing on Jan 29, 2018 21:47:31 GMT
There's a lamp post out on Lordship Lane N17 (old skool Sodium bulb), which has been broken for days... I wonder if it will prompt a change to LED's by Haringey? I think the last storm took it out |
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Post by vjaska on Jan 29, 2018 22:57:58 GMT
There's a lamp post out on Lordship Lane N17 (old skool Sodium bulb), which has been broken for days... I wonder if it will prompt a change to LED's by Haringey? I think the last storm took it out Is that the sole surviving one near The Roundway on a blue column? |
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Post by ServerKing on Jan 30, 2018 3:41:31 GMT
There's a lamp post out on Lordship Lane N17 (old skool Sodium bulb), which has been broken for days... I wonder if it will prompt a change to LED's by Haringey? I think the last storm took it out Is that the sole surviving one near The Roundway on a blue column? No, it's one taken out by Storm Eileen / Fiona / (insert other Celtic girl's name) near to the Health Centre. Only the A10 / A109 roundabout (Roundway East Arm) has LED, but the rest of Lordship Lane doesn't  I guess it's not such a priority but it does make things rather dark on a main road |
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Post by snowman on Jan 31, 2018 21:01:02 GMT
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Post by vjaska on Feb 7, 2018 3:00:45 GMT
Their PFI scheme was around 10 years ago now where they converted Surrey to WRTL Industria Arcs for main roads & WRTL Libras for side roads. Both types of street light can be simply converted to LED's with the removal of their SON bulbs and LED's bulbs fitted inside instead but I suspect they will replace the lights completely |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 7, 2018 3:15:13 GMT
The Urbis Albanys on Norwood Road have begun to be converted to LED's - pretty much all are done between Leigham Vale & Robson Road with just the Norwood High Street one way system to be done. Meanwhile, no more progress has been done in Brixton Town Centre and many of the lights that have yet to be converted to LED are beginning to fail to light up.
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I could do it by Lampton Corner which is by far the most local option, but if I wanted to travel I guess I could look at the 65 along Kew Road, or maybe even Hythe Avenue on the 422 (a route I really have a soft spot for 
). Wouldn't want to rate my chances with lower frequency routes in side roads!
The yellow lights would be classed as SOX lights - a lot of the SOX lights on the side roads in Sutton are Eleco GR's from memory (can't remember the name of the other SOX lights on the more main roads though). Richmond does indeed have pockets of main roads with Philips MA SOX lights such as on Kew Road & down near Hampton as well whilst a section of Upper Richmond Road has the now very rare Thorn Alpha 4 which can only be now found within London on Heston Road (as well as a few survivors of Hounslow's scheme dotted around the borough) & one example in Harringay in between the Westbury Avenue & The Roundway junctions in North London. A few roads in Bromley also still have Philips MA SOX lights despite the fact that many lights were replaced by LED's.
However, the Lambeth section of Mitcham Lane has begun to lose it's 1980's columns which means it could be curtains for the remaining column that escaped the black livery imposed by Lambeth in the 2000's - it still wears cream with a red base although it does look a bit tatty.
I guess it's not such a priority but it does make things rather dark on a main road 