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Post by M1104 on Apr 11, 2014 16:54:26 GMT
I'm not sure what the MA60s are but as you mention Streatham Hill/High Road are they the contrete ones that used to be along the A24 from junction of Union Road, Clapham all the way to the junction of Blackshaw Road, Tooting? Streatham Hill & High Road had a mixture of concrete columns and metal columns - the metal columns had MA60's. I think there are just 2 MA60's left in Lambeth - both outside Kings College Hospital on Bessemer Road. Another place that surprisingly still have them are on the M1 where it meets the M25, which I believe is junction 6. AFAIK are the only ones on that motorway between junction 1 and Leeds. |
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Post by M1104 on May 25, 2014 10:28:25 GMT
Passed along Walworth Road not long ago and realise their new lampposts look a lot like the old ones that used to be around the Hyde Park roundabout (up til around 10 years ago when they got replaced/upgraded).
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Post by vjaska on May 25, 2014 12:29:35 GMT
Passed along Walworth Road not long ago and realise their new lampposts look a lot like the old ones that used to be around the Hyde Park roundabout (up til around 10 years ago when they got replaced/upgraded). Yeah, they look very similar in design, I did rather like those columns along Park Lane & Hyde Park Corner. |
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Post by M1104 on Jun 19, 2014 10:36:18 GMT
Was today looking at the lampposts in Mitcham Road, Tooting Broadway and noticed that they have a somewhat similar design to the ones used as far back as the 1920s through early 60s, when by then the concrete ones replaced them....them reminding me of horses when I was a kid  . General street light designs are no different to clothes/hair fashions where it often comes to a somewhat full circle... which is where I was thinking that maybe metallic versions of London's old concrete designs (when replacement is due) would be great as it adds a bit of variety to general street furniture. Despite the many concrete designs, the actual lamps were only three or four different variants, which means the actual lamps used today could easily be coupled to other post designs. I miss the days of every other town having their own version of streetlamps. In the borough of Wandsworth and Merton alone I can remember up to twenty different versions on the high streets or the side roads. Also went along South Croxted Road and noticed that the last old lamppost (the one that time forgot for over a year) has finally been switched off and removed, the replacement lamp next to it finally switched on. Not sure which came first, the new lampposts or the hybrids on the 3. If I had lived along that road I would have been saddened by both replacements. |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 19, 2014 11:02:58 GMT
Was today looking at the lampposts in Mitcham Road, Tooting Broadway and noticed that they have a somewhat similar design to the ones used as far back as the 1920s through early 60s, when by then the concrete ones replaced them....them reminding me of horses when I was a kid . General street light designs are no different to clothes/hair fashions where it often comes to a somewhat full circle... which is where I was thinking that maybe metallic versions of London's old concrete designs (when replacement is due) would be great as it adds a bit of variety to general street furniture. Despite the many concrete designs, the actual lamps were only three or four different variants, which means the actual lamps used today could easily be coupled to other post designs. I miss the days of every other town having their own version of streetlamps. In the borough of Wandsworth and Merton alone I can remember up to twenty different versions on the high streets or the side roads. Also went along South Croxted Road and noticed that the last old lamppost (the one that time forgot for over a year) has finally been switched off and removed, the replacement lamp next to it finally switched on. Not sure which came first, the new lampposts or the hybrids on the 3. If I had lived along that road I would have been saddened by both replacements. The hybrids came first - at the time, no replacement columns were installed along South Croxted Road. As well as every borough having a number of different combinations of lamppost, there was also a variety of colour on columns between the boroughs. I mean, Wandsworth was green, Lambeth was a mixture of white with blue bases and cream with red bases, Lewisham was a light blue, Southwark was white with brown base and also had full brown columns, Croydon was silver etc. Now, most boroughs have adopted boring black - new streetlight designs have little character and some look absolutely horrid. Some of the residents on roads in the Croydon borough did campaign to keep the old 1950's lampposts installed but with new energy saving bulbs but it was rejected and now Croydon & Lewisham (who have a joint PFI contract between them) are getting characterless, horrid new lights that have no style and are plain boring. |
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Post by M1104 on Jun 19, 2014 11:30:42 GMT
Was today looking at the lampposts in Mitcham Road, Tooting Broadway and noticed that they have a somewhat similar design to the ones used as far back as the 1920s through early 60s, when by then the concrete ones replaced them....them reminding me of horses when I was a kid . General street light designs are no different to clothes/hair fashions where it often comes to a somewhat full circle... which is where I was thinking that maybe metallic versions of London's old concrete designs (when replacement is due) would be great as it adds a bit of variety to general street furniture. Despite the many concrete designs, the actual lamps were only three or four different variants, which means the actual lamps used today could easily be coupled to other post designs. I miss the days of every other town having their own version of streetlamps. In the borough of Wandsworth and Merton alone I can remember up to twenty different versions on the high streets or the side roads. Also went along South Croxted Road and noticed that the last old lamppost (the one that time forgot for over a year) has finally been switched off and removed, the replacement lamp next to it finally switched on. Not sure which came first, the new lampposts or the hybrids on the 3. If I had lived along that road I would have been saddened by both replacements. The hybrids came first - at the time, no replacement columns were installed along South Croxted Road. As well as every borough having a number of different combinations of lamppost, there was also a variety of colour on columns between the boroughs. I mean, Wandsworth was green, Lambeth was a mixture of white with blue bases and cream with red bases, Lewisham was a light blue, Southwark was white with brown base and also had full brown columns, Croydon was silver etc. Now, most boroughs have adopted boring black - new streetlight designs have little character and some look absolutely horrid. Some of the residents on roads in the Croydon borough did campaign to keep the old 1950's lampposts installed but with new energy saving bulbs but it was rejected and now Croydon & Lewisham (who have a joint PFI contract between them) are getting characterless, horrid new lights that have no style and are plain boring. I also remember Croydon having green lampposts as well, some which I believe were still in the Coulsdon area a few years ago. Not sure if they are still there in that colour now as I have not been in that area recently, barring the A23 to Brighton. I would have thought the old Swan shape post with new energy saver bulbs would have been a great compromise for the council as surely it would have saved them money putting replacing posts... Unless they argued the case that they are not as strong as they used to be, though they do look rather solid. One of my relatives lives within the Croydon borough where those street lights are in their original condition, red into Amber. I sometimes look at it at a time when it's due to switch on and often wonder how long it has left lighting up that side street. The nearby taller lampposts are also in their original form. I am surprised that the new lamp post are black, even for an outer London Borough like Croydon. Will probably sound weird for saying this, but silver posts to me gave a mentally positive vibe... in a similar way to how some people feel good in a particular colour of clothing. Had always thought it would been good if Merton had adopted the silver as well, though many of their high street lamp posts in colliers wood, Phipps Bridge, merton high street and Mitcham were originally white with black skirts. |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 19, 2014 12:36:43 GMT
The hybrids came first - at the time, no replacement columns were installed along South Croxted Road. As well as every borough having a number of different combinations of lamppost, there was also a variety of colour on columns between the boroughs. I mean, Wandsworth was green, Lambeth was a mixture of white with blue bases and cream with red bases, Lewisham was a light blue, Southwark was white with brown base and also had full brown columns, Croydon was silver etc. Now, most boroughs have adopted boring black - new streetlight designs have little character and some look absolutely horrid. Some of the residents on roads in the Croydon borough did campaign to keep the old 1950's lampposts installed but with new energy saving bulbs but it was rejected and now Croydon & Lewisham (who have a joint PFI contract between them) are getting characterless, horrid new lights that have no style and are plain boring. I also remember Croydon having green lampposts as well, some which I believe were still in the Coulsdon area a few years ago. Not sure if they are still there in that colour now as I have not been in that area recently, barring the A23 to Brighton. I would have thought the old Swan shape post with new energy saver bulbs would have been a great compromise for the council as surely it would have saved them money putting replacing posts... Unless they argued the case that they are not as strong as they used to be, though they do look rather solid. One of my relatives lives within the Croydon borough where those street lights are in their original condition, red into Amber. I sometimes look at it at a time when it's due to switch on and often wonder how long it has left lighting up that side street. The nearby taller lampposts are also in their original form. I am surprised that the new lamp post are black, even for an outer London Borough like Croydon. Will probably sound weird for saying this, but silver posts to me gave a mentally positive vibe... in a similar way to how some people feel good in a particular colour of clothing. Had always thought it would been good if Merton had adopted the silver as well, though many of their high street lamp posts in colliers wood, Phipps Bridge, merton high street and Mitcham were originally white with black skirts. I forgot about the green ones in Croydon too, they were in Addington, Shirley Oaks, Coombe Lane & Road, Coulsdon & parts of Purley. Yeah they are still in that colour and I think the ones in Coulsdon & Purley might be the last ones to be removed in the borough according to a website I saw earlier. |
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Post by M1104 on Jun 19, 2014 13:52:44 GMT
I also remember Croydon having green lampposts as well, some which I believe were still in the Coulsdon area a few years ago. Not sure if they are still there in that colour now as I have not been in that area recently, barring the A23 to Brighton. I would have thought the old Swan shape post with new energy saver bulbs would have been a great compromise for the council as surely it would have saved them money putting replacing posts... Unless they argued the case that they are not as strong as they used to be, though they do look rather solid. One of my relatives lives within the Croydon borough where those street lights are in their original condition, red into Amber. I sometimes look at it at a time when it's due to switch on and often wonder how long it has left lighting up that side street. The nearby taller lampposts are also in their original form. I am surprised that the new lamp post are black, even for an outer London Borough like Croydon. Will probably sound weird for saying this, but silver posts to me gave a mentally positive vibe... in a similar way to how some people feel good in a particular colour of clothing. Had always thought it would been good if Merton had adopted the silver as well, though many of their high street lamp posts in colliers wood, Phipps Bridge, merton high street and Mitcham were originally white with black skirts. I forgot about the green ones in Croydon too, they were in Addington, Shirley Oaks, Coombe Lane & Road, Coulsdon & parts of Purley. Yeah they are still in that colour and I think the ones in Coulsdon & Purley might be the last ones to be removed in the borough according to a website I saw earlier. What about the concrete columns in those areas, are they all updated/replaced? I am assuming they are by now.  |
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Post by ServerKing on Jun 19, 2014 20:56:39 GMT
Hounslow have started to really push ahead with replacing their lampposts and installing LED lighting which can be controlled remotely. They have a habit of forgetting the odd lamppost here and there, one opposite Hounslow Station remained for a month before they recently came and installed the new one, with both working at the same time! And once new lights have gone in you'll find they're on 24hrs until they are connected to the remote system, which is to enable lights to be dimmed or switched off on demand. Although they seem to be in no hurry to replace any lampposts knocked down by vehicles or to fix a failed light that I reported many months ago...  plus a few of these roads gaining new columns had theirs replaced only a few years ago  There is also one long forgotten old style yellow light on the path in Merrick Road Southall, that road had their lights replaced in 2008. I'd like Hounslow to take down the old posts on the Half Acre and Boston Manor Road quicker than Louis Suarez took down England tonight They've done the other half of Boston Road upto the Ealing Border by the station, but Windmill Rd and the section of Boston Rd leading to the Gt West Rd needs to be done pronto |
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Post by Hassaan on Jun 19, 2014 21:27:37 GMT
Hounslow have started to really push ahead with replacing their lampposts and installing LED lighting which can be controlled remotely. They have a habit of forgetting the odd lamppost here and there, one opposite Hounslow Station remained for a month before they recently came and installed the new one, with both working at the same time! And once new lights have gone in you'll find they're on 24hrs until they are connected to the remote system, which is to enable lights to be dimmed or switched off on demand. Although they seem to be in no hurry to replace any lampposts knocked down by vehicles or to fix a failed light that I reported many months ago... plus a few of these roads gaining new columns had theirs replaced only a few years ago There is also one long forgotten old style yellow light on the path in Merrick Road Southall, that road had their lights replaced in 2008. I'd like Hounslow to take down the old posts on the Half Acre and Boston Manor Road quicker than Louis Suarez took down England tonight They've done the other half of Boston Road upto the Ealing Border by the station, but Windmill Rd and the section of Boston Rd leading to the Gt West Rd needs to be done pronto They've done quite a bit of Heston and Hounslow recently, but so far haven't got to the main Heston Road. Oh, and that failed light mentioned above is STILL like that |
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Post by ServerKing on Jun 19, 2014 21:38:10 GMT
I'd like Hounslow to take down the old posts on the Half Acre and Boston Manor Road quicker than Louis Suarez took down England tonight They've done the other half of Boston Road upto the Ealing Border by the station, but Windmill Rd and the section of Boston Rd leading to the Gt West Rd needs to be done pronto They've done quite a bit of Heston and Hounslow recently, but so far haven't got to the main Heston Road. Oh, and that failed light mentioned above is STILL like that Hounslow Highways' subcontractor is lost for words as to the failing light opposite the station...  and the haphazard planning so far |
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Post by Hassaan on Jun 19, 2014 22:19:54 GMT
The hybrids came first - at the time, no replacement columns were installed along South Croxted Road. As well as every borough having a number of different combinations of lamppost, there was also a variety of colour on columns between the boroughs. I mean, Wandsworth was green, Lambeth was a mixture of white with blue bases and cream with red bases, Lewisham was a light blue, Southwark was white with brown base and also had full brown columns, Croydon was silver etc. Now, most boroughs have adopted boring black - new streetlight designs have little character and some look absolutely horrid. Some of the residents on roads in the Croydon borough did campaign to keep the old 1950's lampposts installed but with new energy saving bulbs but it was rejected and now Croydon & Lewisham (who have a joint PFI contract between them) are getting characterless, horrid new lights that have no style and are plain boring. I also remember Croydon having green lampposts as well, some which I believe were still in the Coulsdon area a few years ago. Not sure if they are still there in that colour now as I have not been in that area recently, barring the A23 to Brighton. I would have thought the old Swan shape post with new energy saver bulbs would have been a great compromise for the council as surely it would have saved them money putting replacing posts... Unless they argued the case that they are not as strong as they used to be, though they do look rather solid. One of my relatives lives within the Croydon borough where those street lights are in their original condition, red into Amber. I sometimes look at it at a time when it's due to switch on and often wonder how long it has left lighting up that side street. The nearby taller lampposts are also in their original form. I am surprised that the new lamp post are black, even for an outer London Borough like Croydon. Will probably sound weird for saying this, but silver posts to me gave a mentally positive vibe... in a similar way to how some people feel good in a particular colour of clothing. Had always thought it would been good if Merton had adopted the silver as well, though many of their high street lamp posts in colliers wood, Phipps Bridge, merton high street and Mitcham were originally white with black skirts. Here the different coloured lampposts have been disappearing too. Hounslow for years have had blue with grey base (or all-cream on side roads), and all-red before that! A few years ago they started installing all-black or all-brown lampposts (or even leaving them unpainted in many side roads), although on a couple of roads they painted the new ones in the old blue/grey colours . Now they've reverted to all-black for new post installations in the latest LED installation drive. Ealing had cream with brown base, although some were white with blue base, the latter which Hillingdon also used. Not sure about Hillingdon but Ealing have been going for the all-black ones for years, even since the early replacements scheme in parts of Southall in 2003/2004 (before their main borough-wide one from Jan 2006 with my road being one of the first  ). Ealing even had some Victorian-era ones in parts of Greenford and Hanwell which they replaced either with their standard or a more modern swan-shape one. |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 19, 2014 23:11:49 GMT
I forgot about the green ones in Croydon too, they were in Addington, Shirley Oaks, Coombe Lane & Road, Coulsdon & parts of Purley. Yeah they are still in that colour and I think the ones in Coulsdon & Purley might be the last ones to be removed in the borough according to a website I saw earlier. What about the concrete columns in those areas, are they all updated/replaced? I am assuming they are by now. They were updated around 2008ish with new lights - the sodium ones were replaced with modern ones but I still think they are still around in the Purley & Coulsdon area. |
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Post by M1104 on Jun 20, 2014 1:31:20 GMT
Hounslow have started to really push ahead with replacing their lampposts and installing LED lighting which can be controlled remotely. They have a habit of forgetting the odd lamppost here and there, one opposite Hounslow Station remained for a month before they recently came and installed the new one, with both working at the same time! And once new lights have gone in you'll find they're on 24hrs until they are connected to the remote system, which is to enable lights to be dimmed or switched off on demand. Although they seem to be in no hurry to replace any lampposts knocked down by vehicles or to fix a failed light that I reported many months ago... plus a few of these roads gaining new columns had theirs replaced only a few years ago There is also one long forgotten old style yellow light on the path in Merrick Road Southall, that road had their lights replaced in 2008. I'd like Hounslow to take down the old posts on the Half Acre and Boston Manor Road quicker than Louis Suarez took down England tonight They've done the other half of Boston Road upto the Ealing Border by the station, but Windmill Rd and the section of Boston Rd leading to the Gt West Rd needs to be done pronto Reminds me a bit of Trinity Road in the Wimbledon area where about three quarters of the road had streetlight refurbishments (shorter neck with new lamps) back in the 1990s whereas the southern end, between the Broadway and Kingston Road, are still in the original form from the 60s/70s. These streetlights are very similar in design to the 1950s ones seen on Brighton Road just south of TC. The lamps shine red into amber but the casing is different. |
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Post by M1104 on Jun 20, 2014 1:36:42 GMT
What about the concrete columns in those areas, are they all updated/replaced? I am assuming they are by now. They were updated around 2008ish with new lights - the sodium ones were replaced with modern ones but I still think they are still around in the Purley & Coulsdon area. I may jump on the 60 one day (soon just in case) and see if I can see any from the bus route. |
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plus a few of these roads gaining new columns had theirs replaced only a few years ago 
). Ealing even had some Victorian-era ones in parts of Greenford and Hanwell which they replaced either with their standard or a more modern swan-shape one.