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Post by Busboy105 on May 22, 2023 17:02:59 GMT
Done what I had left of the 7, 37, 312 and the 283 (being a new addition) as well as a large part of the 197
Routes I've done end to end:
5, 7, 13, 16 (Victoria- Cricklewood), 17, 19, 20, 29, 34, 37, 41, 43, 63, 65, 66, 67, 69, 81, 85, 86, 92, 93, 95, 102, 104, 105, 106, 112, 114, 117, 121, 123, 128, 129, 134, 135, 141, 142, 143, 144, 149, 150, 151, 154, 158, 169, 179, 180, 184, 191, 192, 201, 203, 210*, 212, 216, 217, 221, 226 ,230, 231, 232, 234, 236, 238, 241, 243, 247, 257, 262, 263, 264, 275, 278, 282, 283, 295, 297, 298, 299, 304, 307, 312, 313, 317, 318, 323, 324, 326, 327, 329, 330, 349, 366, 368, 371, 377, 382, 384, 388, 390, 413, 427, 444, 456, 472, 473, 485, 488, 491, 497, 507, 521, 969, A10, B11, B12, B13, B14, B15, B16, C1, C3, C10, C11, D3, D6, D7, D8, E1, E2, E3, E5, E6, E7, E8, E9, E10, E11, EL1, EL2, EL3, G1, H2, H3, H8, H9, H10, H11, H12, H13, H14, H17, H18, H19, H20, H22, H25, H26, H28, H32, H37, H91, H98, K1, K2, K3, K4, K5, N271, P4, P5, P12, P13, R68, R70, S1, S3, S4, U1*, U2, U3, U4, U7, U9, W3, W4, W5, W6, W7, W8, W9, W11, W12, W13, W14, W15, W16, W19
*= I have done the route end to end in terms of destination but a diversion meant that I haven't done it 100%
Routes I've done partially/almost done:
3, 11, 18, 21, 22, 23, 25, 26, 27, 28, 36, 47, 59, 60, 73, 80, 91, 94, 96, 97, 99, 107, 108, 109, 111, 113, 125, 132, 133, 136, 145, 152, 156, 157, 160, 173, 174, 182, 183, 186, 195, 197, 205, 206, 207, 208, 213, 218, 219, 233, 250, 253, 254, 258, 265, 266, 271, 274, 276, 290, 293, 331, 341, 350, 358, 362, 410, 474, 476, 490, 533, N11, N29, RV1, U5, X140
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Post by Busboy105 on May 27, 2023 23:13:02 GMT
Last couple of days I've done the 3, 6, 11, the new 16, 23, 59 and the 133 with a small part of the 56
Routes I've done end to end:
3, 5, 6, 7, 11, 13, 16**, 17, 19, 20, 23, 29, 34, 37, 41, 43, 59, 63, 65, 66, 67, 69, 81, 85, 86, 92, 93, 95, 102, 104, 105, 106, 112, 114, 117, 121, 123, 128, 129, 133, 134, 135, 141, 142, 143, 144, 149, 150, 151, 154, 158, 169, 179, 180, 184, 191, 192, 201, 203, 210*, 212, 216, 217, 221, 226 ,230, 231, 232, 234, 236, 238, 241, 243, 247, 257, 262, 263, 264, 275, 278, 282, 283, 295, 297, 298, 299, 304, 307, 312, 313, 317, 318, 323, 324, 326, 327, 329, 330, 349, 366, 368, 371, 377, 382, 384, 388, 390, 413, 427, 444, 456, 472, 473, 485, 488, 491, 497, 507, 521, 969, A10, B11, B12, B13, B14, B15, B16, C1, C3, C10, C11, D3, D6, D7, D8, E1, E2, E3, E5, E6, E7, E8, E9, E10, E11, EL1, EL2, EL3, G1, H2, H3, H8, H9, H10, H11, H12, H13, H14, H17, H18, H19, H20, H22, H25, H26, H28, H32, H37, H91, H98, K1, K2, K3, K4, K5, N271, P4, P5, P12, P13, R68, R70, S1, S3, S4, U1*, U2, U3, U4, U7, U9, W3, W4, W5, W6, W7, W8, W9, W11, W12, W13, W14, W15, W16, W19
*= I have done the route end to end in terms of destination but a diversion meant that I haven't done it 100%
**= both Victoria- Cricklewood and Paddington- Brent Park iterations
Routes I've done partially/almost done:
18, 21, 22, 25, 26, 27, 28, 36, 47, 56, 60, 73, 80, 91, 94, 96, 97, 99, 107, 108, 109, 111, 113, 125, 132, 136, 145, 152, 156, 157, 160, 173, 174, 182, 183, 186, 195, 197, 205, 206, 207, 208, 213, 218, 219, 233, 250, 253, 254, 258, 265, 266, 271, 274, 276, 290, 293, 331, 341, 350, 358, 362, 410, 474, 476, 490, 533, N11, N29, RV1, U5, X140
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Post by northlondon83 on May 28, 2023 0:30:37 GMT
Last couple of days I've done the 3, 6, 11, the new 16, 23, 59 and the 133 with a small part of the 56 Routes I've done end to end: 3, 5, 6, 7, 11, 13, 16**, 17, 19, 20, 23, 29, 34, 37, 41, 43, 59, 63, 65, 66, 67, 69, 81, 85, 86, 92, 93, 95, 102, 104, 105, 106, 112, 114, 117, 121, 123, 128, 129, 133, 134, 135, 141, 142, 143, 144, 149, 150, 151, 154, 158, 169, 179, 180, 184, 191, 192, 201, 203, 210*, 212, 216, 217, 221, 226 ,230, 231, 232, 234, 236, 238, 241, 243, 247, 257, 262, 263, 264, 275, 278, 282, 283, 295, 297, 298, 299, 304, 307, 312, 313, 317, 318, 323, 324, 326, 327, 329, 330, 349, 366, 368, 371, 377, 382, 384, 388, 390, 413, 427, 444, 456, 472, 473, 485, 488, 491, 497, 507, 521, 969, A10, B11, B12, B13, B14, B15, B16, C1, C3, C10, C11, D3, D6, D7, D8, E1, E2, E3, E5, E6, E7, E8, E9, E10, E11, EL1, EL2, EL3, G1, H2, H3, H8, H9, H10, H11, H12, H13, H14, H17, H18, H19, H20, H22, H25, H26, H28, H32, H37, H91, H98, K1, K2, K3, K4, K5, N271, P4, P5, P12, P13, R68, R70, S1, S3, S4, U1*, U2, U3, U4, U7, U9, W3, W4, W5, W6, W7, W8, W9, W11, W12, W13, W14, W15, W16, W19 *= I have done the route end to end in terms of destination but a diversion meant that I haven't done it 100% **= both Victoria- Cricklewood and Paddington- Brent Park iterations Routes I've done partially/almost done: 18, 21, 22, 25, 26, 27, 28, 36, 47, 56, 60, 73, 80, 91, 94, 96, 97, 99, 107, 108, 109, 111, 113, 125, 132, 136, 145, 152, 156, 157, 160, 173, 174, 182, 183, 186, 195, 197, 205, 206, 207, 208, 213, 218, 219, 233, 250, 253, 254, 258, 265, 266, 271, 274, 276, 290, 293, 331, 341, 350, 358, 362, 410, 474, 476, 490, 533, N11, N29, RV1, U5, X140 Do you find that the current 16 iteration is any different to the former 332 (as in ridership, speed, reliability) |
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Post by Busboy105 on May 28, 2023 9:03:36 GMT
Last couple of days I've done the 3, 6, 11, the new 16, 23, 59 and the 133 with a small part of the 56 Routes I've done end to end: 3, 5, 6, 7, 11, 13, 16**, 17, 19, 20, 23, 29, 34, 37, 41, 43, 59, 63, 65, 66, 67, 69, 81, 85, 86, 92, 93, 95, 102, 104, 105, 106, 112, 114, 117, 121, 123, 128, 129, 133, 134, 135, 141, 142, 143, 144, 149, 150, 151, 154, 158, 169, 179, 180, 184, 191, 192, 201, 203, 210*, 212, 216, 217, 221, 226 ,230, 231, 232, 234, 236, 238, 241, 243, 247, 257, 262, 263, 264, 275, 278, 282, 283, 295, 297, 298, 299, 304, 307, 312, 313, 317, 318, 323, 324, 326, 327, 329, 330, 349, 366, 368, 371, 377, 382, 384, 388, 390, 413, 427, 444, 456, 472, 473, 485, 488, 491, 497, 507, 521, 969, A10, B11, B12, B13, B14, B15, B16, C1, C3, C10, C11, D3, D6, D7, D8, E1, E2, E3, E5, E6, E7, E8, E9, E10, E11, EL1, EL2, EL3, G1, H2, H3, H8, H9, H10, H11, H12, H13, H14, H17, H18, H19, H20, H22, H25, H26, H28, H32, H37, H91, H98, K1, K2, K3, K4, K5, N271, P4, P5, P12, P13, R68, R70, S1, S3, S4, U1*, U2, U3, U4, U7, U9, W3, W4, W5, W6, W7, W8, W9, W11, W12, W13, W14, W15, W16, W19 *= I have done the route end to end in terms of destination but a diversion meant that I haven't done it 100% **= both Victoria- Cricklewood and Paddington- Brent Park iterations Routes I've done partially/almost done: 18, 21, 22, 25, 26, 27, 28, 36, 47, 56, 60, 73, 80, 91, 94, 96, 97, 99, 107, 108, 109, 111, 113, 125, 132, 136, 145, 152, 156, 157, 160, 173, 174, 182, 183, 186, 195, 197, 205, 206, 207, 208, 213, 218, 219, 233, 250, 253, 254, 258, 265, 266, 271, 274, 276, 290, 293, 331, 341, 350, 358, 362, 410, 474, 476, 490, 533, N11, N29, RV1, U5, X140 Do you find that the current 16 iteration is any different to the former 332 (as in ridership, speed, reliability) I've never been on the 332 so can't really comment on it |
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Post by borneobus on May 28, 2023 10:35:18 GMT
Do you find that the current 16 iteration is any different to the former 332 (as in ridership, speed, reliability) I've never been on the 332 so can't really comment on it I rode the 332 e2e Paddington - Brent Park Tesco on 5th April on LT789. Haven't ridden this iteration of the 16 as yet however ridership & speed should be the same due: I have a copy of all the Bus Stops on the 332 and they are identical to the 16 that I've just checked on TfL's website. Obviously cannot comment on reliability |
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Post by thewintersoldier on May 28, 2023 11:18:18 GMT
I've never been on the 332 so can't really comment on it I rode the 332 e2e Paddington - Brent Park Tesco on 5th April on LT789. Haven't ridden this iteration of the 16 as yet however ridership & speed should be the same due: I have a copy of all the Bus Stops on the 332 and they are identical to the 16 that I've just checked on TfL's website. Obviously cannot comment on reliability The handful of times I’ve used it end to end it’s virtually been the same just with more passengers on board especially going northbound |
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Post by Busboy105 on May 28, 2023 11:59:01 GMT
I've never been on the 332 so can't really comment on it I rode the 332 e2e Paddington - Brent Park Tesco on 5th April on LT789. Haven't ridden this iteration of the 16 as yet however ridership & speed should be the same due: I have a copy of all the Bus Stops on the 332 and they are identical to the 16 that I've just checked on TfL's website. Obviously cannot comment on reliability Yeah as the new 16 is basically the old 332 just with a lower number |
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Post by MKAY315 on Jun 1, 2023 21:00:21 GMT
I think one of the hardest routes I've done end to end. It's a split between the 358 and 102.
The 358 with those rock hard seats from Palace to Orpington and literally going around the houses and doing that loop in Orpington.
The 102 sitting on that bus from Brent Cross. I literally wanted to scratch my eyes out when I got to Muswell Hill because of how slow the journey was going. I didn't actually plan on taking the 102 that particular day but because of the gap in service on the 232 I had to bite the bullet on the 102 and when I got to Palmers Green. I thought to myself I may as well complete the challenge to Edmonton Green.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 2, 2023 2:02:43 GMT
I think one of the hardest routes I've done end to end. It's a split between the 358 and 102. The 358 with those rock hard seats from Palace to Orpington and literally going around the houses and doing that loop in Orpington. The 102 sitting on that bus from Brent Cross. I literally wanted to scratch my eyes out when I got to Muswell Hill because of how slow the journey was going. I didn't actually plan on taking the 102 that particular day but because of the gap in service on the 232 I had to bite the bullet on the 102 and when I got to Palmers Green. I thought to myself I may as well complete the challenge to Edmonton Green. I never had an issue with those two routes myself - 11 in it's old form, 19, 145 or 453 on the other hand were a right pain to do end to end especially the latter which took 3 buses to do in one attempt. The 358 was brilliant with the Scanias, had many rides full of thrash and had an epic ride on a MEC where the driver was just flooring it all the way through. Can't remember my 102 ride that well but it wasn't bad which explains why it's pretty forgettable in my head |
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Post by MKAY315 on Jun 2, 2023 6:36:05 GMT
I think one of the hardest routes I've done end to end. It's a split between the 358 and 102. The 358 with those rock hard seats from Palace to Orpington and literally going around the houses and doing that loop in Orpington. The 102 sitting on that bus from Brent Cross. I literally wanted to scratch my eyes out when I got to Muswell Hill because of how slow the journey was going. I didn't actually plan on taking the 102 that particular day but because of the gap in service on the 232 I had to bite the bullet on the 102 and when I got to Palmers Green. I thought to myself I may as well complete the challenge to Edmonton Green. I never had an issue with those two routes myself - 11 in it's old form, 19, 145 or 453 on the other hand were a right pain to do end to end especially the latter which took 3 buses to do in one attempt. The 358 was brilliant with the Scanias, had many rides full of thrash and had an epic ride on a MEC where the driver was just flooring it all the way through. Can't remember my 102 ride that well but it wasn't bad which explains why it's pretty forgettable in my head I think because of the day I chose to get that bus (102) it was chaos. Traffic all over and now with some of the roads on that route reduced to 20mph increased the journey times. |
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Post by VWH1419 on Jun 2, 2023 8:56:38 GMT
I never had an issue with those two routes myself - 11 in it's old form, 19, 145 or 453 on the other hand were a right pain to do end to end especially the latter which took 3 buses to do in one attempt. The 358 was brilliant with the Scanias, had many rides full of thrash and had an epic ride on a MEC where the driver was just flooring it all the way through. Can't remember my 102 ride that well but it wasn't bad which explains why it's pretty forgettable in my head I think because of the day I chose to get that bus (102) it was chaos. Traffic all over and now with some of the roads on that route reduced to 20mph increased the journey times. Seconded on the 102. Can’t say last time I did an e2e it was that bad. For sure not the most remarkable route, but not a slog unlike say route 260. That saying, it sounds like another route that has fallen victim to excessive traffic and an bad day? For instance Temple Fortune and Henley’s Corner is pretty awful lately. I like those parts for speed and hill incline (one of few with 30MPHs) |
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Post by LondonNorthern on Jun 2, 2023 9:48:43 GMT
I think because of the day I chose to get that bus (102) it was chaos. Traffic all over and now with some of the roads on that route reduced to 20mph increased the journey times. Seconded on the 102. Can’t say last time I did an e2e it was that bad. For sure not the most remarkable route, but not a slog unlike say route 260. That saying, it sounds like another route that has fallen victim to excessive traffic and an bad day? For instance Temple Fortune and Henley’s Corner is pretty awful lately. I like those parts for speed and hill incline (one of few with 30MPHs) Like with the 25, very surprised it wasn't split when the congestion charge came about. A 102 from Brent Cross to Muswell Hill and perhaps a 402 from Muswell Hill to Edmonton Green via Bounds Green. Although this would have removed what TFL intended, and that was to have an overlapping section on the split routes, however I'm not sure on how that could've been achieved without overbussing a corridor. |
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 2, 2023 10:29:37 GMT
Seconded on the 102. Can’t say last time I did an e2e it was that bad. For sure not the most remarkable route, but not a slog unlike say route 260. That saying, it sounds like another route that has fallen victim to excessive traffic and an bad day? For instance Temple Fortune and Henley’s Corner is pretty awful lately. I like those parts for speed and hill incline (one of few with 30MPHs) Like with the 25, very surprised it wasn't split when the congestion charge came about. A 102 from Brent Cross to Muswell Hill and perhaps a 402 from Muswell Hill to Edmonton Green via Bounds Green. Although this would have removed what TFL intended, and that was to have an overlapping section on the split routes, however I'm not sure on how that could've been achieved without overbussing a corridor. To think the 102 used to go to Chingford! The section from Edmonton to Chingford is now covered by the 444. |
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Post by Busboy105 on Jun 3, 2023 10:23:50 GMT
Closing into 260 routes end to end with the 15, 97 and 108
Routes I've done end to end:
3, 5, 6, 7, 11, 13, 15, 16**, 17, 19, 20, 23, 29, 34, 37, 41, 43, 59, 63, 65, 66, 67, 69, 81, 85, 86, 92, 93, 95, 97, 102, 104, 105, 106, 108, 112, 114, 117, 121, 123, 128, 129, 133, 134, 135, 141, 142, 143, 144, 149, 150, 151, 154, 158, 169, 179, 180, 184, 191, 192, 201, 203, 210*, 212, 216, 217, 221, 226 ,230, 231, 232, 234, 236, 238, 241, 243, 247, 257, 262, 263, 264, 275, 278, 282, 283, 295, 297, 298, 299, 304, 307, 312, 313, 317, 318, 323, 324, 326, 327, 329, 330, 349, 366, 368, 371, 377, 382, 384, 388, 390, 413, 427, 444, 456, 472, 473, 485, 488, 491, 497, 507, 521, 969, A10, B11, B12, B13, B14, B15, B16, C1, C3, C10, C11, D3, D6, D7, D8, E1, E2, E3, E5, E6, E7, E8, E9, E10, E11, EL1, EL2, EL3, G1, H2, H3, H8, H9, H10, H11, H12, H13, H14, H17, H18, H19, H20, H22, H25, H26, H28, H32, H37, H91, H98, K1, K2, K3, K4, K5, N271, P4, P5, P12, P13, R68, R70, S1, S3, S4, U1*, U2, U3, U4, U7, U9, W3, W4, W5, W6, W7, W8, W9, W11, W12, W13, W14, W15, W16, W19
*= I have done the route end to end in terms of destination but a diversion meant that I haven't done it 100%
**= both Victoria- Cricklewood and Paddington- Brent Park iterations
Routes I've done partially/almost done:
18, 21, 22, 25, 26, 27, 28, 36, 47, 56, 60, 73, 80, 91, 94, 96, 99, 107, 109, 111, 113, 125, 132, 136, 145, 152, 156, 157, 160, 173, 174, 182, 183, 186, 195, 197, 205, 206, 207, 208, 213, 218, 219, 233, 250, 253, 254, 258, 265, 266, 271, 274, 276, 290, 293, 331, 341, 350, 358, 362, 410, 474, 476, 490, 533, N11, N29, RV1, U5, X140
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Post by VWH1419 on Jun 3, 2023 20:28:48 GMT
Seconded on the 102. Can’t say last time I did an e2e it was that bad. For sure not the most remarkable route, but not a slog unlike say route 260. That saying, it sounds like another route that has fallen victim to excessive traffic and an bad day? For instance Temple Fortune and Henley’s Corner is pretty awful lately. I like those parts for speed and hill incline (one of few with 30MPHs) Like with the 25, very surprised it wasn't split when the congestion charge came about. A 102 from Brent Cross to Muswell Hill and perhaps a 402 from Muswell Hill to Edmonton Green via Bounds Green. Although this would have removed what TFL intended, and that was to have an overlapping section on the split routes, however I'm not sure on how that could've been achieved without overbussing a corridor. A tricky one for sure. I wonder if such an idea for the 102 could be revisited along with other routes if it becomes further more unbearable traffic wise. Say if enough stand space at Muswell Hill. |
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