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Post by VPL630 on May 19, 2014 19:36:39 GMT
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Post by snoggle on May 19, 2014 19:47:11 GMT
Only that May was the month that was stated by Optare that there would be a launch event. I assume that's the bus on its way to be possibly launched. Not encouraging that it has to go by low loader.  |
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Post by ServerKing on May 19, 2014 19:56:34 GMT
Only that May was the month that was stated by Optare that there would be a launch event. I assume that's the bus on its way to be possibly launched. Not encouraging that it has to go by low loader. Perhaps they had no engine supplier now Wrightbus has hooked up with Mercedes, and the ISBe is in the gorgeous E400 MMC  Hmmm.. looks like a Plaxton President, but with the wipers from an East Lancs Mylennium... Interesting windows upstairs. Only two hopper windows towards the front?  Sad to say it looks dated, despite the stickers trying to disguise it  |
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Post by tooting395 on May 19, 2014 20:03:47 GMT
Maybe we will see some more variety in London instead of all orders being for E400 and the wrightbus in terms of double deckers.
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Post by marlon101 on May 19, 2014 20:09:43 GMT
Encouraging to see that it is double-doored. I wouldn't have been surprised if Optare walked away from the London market. Interesting angle on the rear of that bus. Impossible to tell if it looks dated, given how impossible to judge the front it is! I will reserve judgement until then and until we have ULW figures.
My guess is that its Enviro-esque with an unfavourable ULW.
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Post by VPL630 on May 19, 2014 20:22:57 GMT
Encouraging to see that it is double-doored. I wouldn't have been surprised if Optare walked away from the London market. Interesting angle on the rear of that bus. Impossible to tell if it looks dated, given how impossible to judge the front it is! I will reserve judgement until then and until we have ULW figures. My guess is that its Enviro-esque with an unfavourable ULW. Well the pics were taken today, Companies don't really walk away, operators just don't order from them |
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Post by LX09FBJ on May 19, 2014 20:35:27 GMT
Only that May was the month that was stated by Optare that there would be a launch event. I assume that's the bus on its way to be possibly launched. Not encouraging that it has to go by low loader. Perhaps they had no engine supplier now Wrightbus has hooked up with Mercedes, and the ISBe is in the gorgeous E400 MMC Hmmm.. looks like a Plaxton President, but with the wipers from an East Lancs Mylennium... Interesting windows upstairs. Only two hopper windows towards the front? Sad to say it looks dated, despite the stickers trying to disguise it What about VDL aka the manufacturer who helped build the StreetDeck's predecessor, the Gemini 2 DL or Scania (who helped build the OmniDekka) They could also just build the body, and then place chassis on it, after the PVLs at A need to be replaced fairly soon, and A has traditionally used ELC, later Optare on it's low floor double decks (except E58-61, the PVLs are second hand) |
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Post by vjaska on May 19, 2014 20:45:48 GMT
Perhaps they had no engine supplier now Wrightbus has hooked up with Mercedes, and the ISBe is in the gorgeous E400 MMC Hmmm.. looks like a Plaxton President, but with the wipers from an East Lancs Mylennium... Interesting windows upstairs. Only two hopper windows towards the front? Sad to say it looks dated, despite the stickers trying to disguise it What about VDL aka the manufacture in the StreetDeck's predecessor, the Gemini 2 DL or Scania (who built the OmniDekka) They could also just build the body, and then place chassis on it, after the PVLs at A need to be replaced fairly soon, and A has traditionally used ELC, later Optare on it's low floor double decks (except E58-61, the PVLs are second hand) East Lancs built the Omnidekka, Scania provided the mechanical parts & the chassis. |
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Post by ServerKing on May 19, 2014 21:07:49 GMT
Perhaps they had no engine supplier now Wrightbus has hooked up with Mercedes, and the ISBe is in the gorgeous E400 MMC Hmmm.. looks like a Plaxton President, but with the wipers from an East Lancs Mylennium... Interesting windows upstairs. Only two hopper windows towards the front? Sad to say it looks dated, despite the stickers trying to disguise it What about VDL aka the manufacture in the StreetDeck's predecessor, the Gemini 2 DL or Scania (who built the OmniDekka) They could also just build the body, and then place chassis on it, after the PVLs at A need to be replaced fairly soon, and A has traditionally used ELC, later Optare on it's low floor double decks (except E58-61, the PVLs are second hand) If Go-Ahead didn't buy the first lot of DB300's, I doubt they'd buy any of these with this Optare body... but stranger things have happened. I guess A could go for these, but I don't think there is a Euro6 version of the DB300 out (that's why the StreetDeck is Daimler)... I think it's Optare's last throw of the dice when it comes to deckers... the Rapta sank without trace, and this looks dull  |
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Post by marlon101 on May 19, 2014 21:25:08 GMT
Encouraging to see that it is double-doored. I wouldn't have been surprised if Optare walked away from the London market. Interesting angle on the rear of that bus. Impossible to tell if it looks dated, given how impossible to judge the front it is! I will reserve judgement until then and until we have ULW figures. My guess is that its Enviro-esque with an unfavourable ULW. Well the pics were taken today, Companies don't really walk away, operators just don't order from them You say that but they have and perhaps will continue to fail to offer vehicles up to TfL spec - walking away from the market, in my definition. |
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Post by ServerKing on May 20, 2014 21:49:29 GMT
Well the pics were taken today, Companies don't really walk away, operators just don't order from them You say that but they have and perhaps will continue to fail to offer vehicles up to TfL spec - walking away from the market, in my definition. It's a shame they're late to the New Bus party... Perhaps CT Plus may buy some replacements for the aging 52-reg's on the 388... and this time, fit them with proper blinds pls |
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Post by southeastlondonbus on May 21, 2014 15:06:06 GMT
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Post by COBO on May 21, 2014 15:38:41 GMT
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Post by londonbusboy on May 21, 2014 16:14:02 GMT
My worry is when they state the bus weighs less than 10 tonnes to save fuel and i do hope they dont turn out like Omnidekkas!
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Post by ThinLizzy on May 21, 2014 16:14:54 GMT
Personally, I'm shocked at how awful it looks- it's even worse than a Gemini 3 |
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Hmmm.. looks like a Plaxton President, but with the wipers from an East Lancs Mylennium... Interesting windows upstairs. Only two hopper windows towards the front? 
Sad to say it looks dated, despite the stickers trying to disguise it 
