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Post by ServerKing on Aug 12, 2014 14:48:19 GMT
VDL didn't use a Euro V or IV engine either for the DB300 as all DB300's have Cummins engines. The Cummin engines they used are euro IV and euro V accordingly, unless you meant that VDL didn't create 'their own' units for the DB300. VDL is more of a coach / chassis builder, they still use Cummins units in their models (like the Citea) abroad. in the UK's case VDL is the chassis... The Euro3's (DB250'S, like the DLA / DLP / DW) used a DAF PE183C unit, DAFBus became VDL Bus in 2004. VDL still make coaches, using DAF engines, and apparently MCV offer the DB300 chassis alongside the B9TL. Though I'd like to see the MMC's soon in London... I am still adjusting to the narrower windows on the Gemini3, hopefully they won't copy New Routemaster's Air Conditioning tech
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Post by Nathan on Aug 16, 2014 11:08:45 GMT
Heres the final results:
- Gemini 3 - 3 votes - E400 MMC - 26 votes
So yeah...I think the E400 MMC won that. I personally think the Gemini 3 is underrated.
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Post by VPL630 on Aug 16, 2014 11:47:51 GMT
Heres the final results: - Gemini 3 - 3 votes - E400 MMC - 26 votes So yeah...I think the E400 MMC won that. I personally think the Gemini 3 is underrated. How can you say the Gemini 3 is underrated, The E400MMC isn't even in service and more people like it
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Post by M1104 on Aug 16, 2014 12:23:00 GMT
Heres the final results: - Gemini 3 - 3 votes - E400 MMC - 26 votes So yeah...I think the E400 MMC won that. I personally think the Gemini 3 is underrated. How can you say the Gemini 3 is underrated, The E400MMC isn't even in service and more people like it One of the attractions being that they have the opt to be placed on a B5TL chassis.
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Post by Nathan on Aug 16, 2014 12:36:06 GMT
Heres the final results: - Gemini 3 - 3 votes - E400 MMC - 26 votes So yeah...I think the E400 MMC won that. I personally think the Gemini 3 is underrated. How can you say the Gemini 3 is underrated, The E400MMC isn't even in service and more people like it I'm saying it because I think it's a pretty good bus. Of course that's my opinion. How can you say the Gemini 3 is underrated, The E400MMC isn't even in service and more people like it One of the attractions being that they have the opt to be placed on a B5TL chassis. E400 MMC with a B5TL chassis you mean?
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Post by M1104 on Aug 16, 2014 12:41:16 GMT
How can you say the Gemini 3 is underrated, The E400MMC isn't even in service and more people like it I'm saying it because I think it's a pretty good bus. Of course that's my opinion. One of the attractions being that they have the opt to be placed on a B5TL chassis. E400 MMC with a B5TL chassis you mean? Yes
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Post by vjaska on Aug 16, 2014 14:14:06 GMT
I personally think the Gemini 3 is underrated. When next to the NBfL lol. Otherwise, it's horrific looking for me. I even think the MCV decker looks better and certain individuals know how much I dislike that bus.
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Post by Volvo on Aug 16, 2014 21:48:26 GMT
I like the Gemini 3, I didn't at first but it grew on me. However looks wise given the choice I'd take the B5TL on the E400 MMC body.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 22:21:58 GMT
Heres the final results: - Gemini 3 - 3 votes - E400 MMC - 26 votes So yeah...I think the E400 MMC won that. I personally think the Gemini 3 is underrated. How can you say the Gemini 3 is underrated, The E400MMC isn't even in service and more people like it It's because of the reputation ADL have built for themselves. Personally I'd like to see ADL get more orders, and none of them on Volvo chassis. The only Volvo chassis I like is the B7TL.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 19, 2014 23:12:30 GMT
How can you say the Gemini 3 is underrated, The E400MMC isn't even in service and more people like it It's because of the reputation ADL have built for themselves. Personally I'd like to see ADL get more orders, and none of them on Volvo chassis. The only Volvo chassis I like is the B7TL. What, no Volvo Olympian or B10M lol.
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Post by bigbaddom1981 on Aug 19, 2014 23:21:34 GMT
It's because of the reputation ADL have built for themselves. Personally I'd like to see ADL get more orders, and none of them on Volvo chassis. The only Volvo chassis I like is the B7TL. What, no Volvo Olympian or B10M lol. I miss the Volvo Olympian! Remember them on the 67 back in the day
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Post by Nathan on Aug 19, 2014 23:28:12 GMT
What, no Volvo Olympian or B10M lol. I miss the Volvo Olympian! Remember them on the 67 back in the day Egh! Those Olympians were weird! Its all about the B7TLs, Tridents, and DB250s
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Post by Nathan on Aug 19, 2014 23:35:49 GMT
What's the chances of us seeing some MCV orders anyway? I completely forgot about that bus lol. I was just reading up on a MCV/DB300 variant in China. I thought this chassis is no longer available? Or is it only discontinued with the Gemini?
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Post by snoggle on Aug 20, 2014 0:03:58 GMT
What's the chances of us seeing some MCV orders anyway? I completely forgot about that bus lol. I was just reading up on a MCV/DB300 variant in China. I thought this chassis is no longer available? Or is it only discontinued with the Gemini? I think the question about the DB300 is whether it is available in euro6 form or not. I doubt that it is which is why it's out of favour for the UK. China / Hong Kong have not adopted euro6 yet - I think HK is still happy to take euro5 standard. If there was a big enough order and the engines were still available then I'm sure VDL and MCV would happily churn out buses for KMB or whoever. KMB have a bit of a reputation of occasionally taking batches of buses with non standard bodywork just to keep Wrights and ADL on their toes - this is why MCV, Neoplan, Berkhof, Volgren and Caetano bodywork has turned up on batches of double decks over the years.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 20, 2014 5:25:17 GMT
I miss the Volvo Olympian! Remember them on the 67 back in the day Egh! Those Olympians were weird! Its all about the B7TLs, Tridents, and DB250s You really don't know what your missing - the old buses are always best. Give me Leyland Olympians, Leyland Titans, MCW Metrobus, Volvo Olympians, Volvo B10M's, Volvo Ailsas & Scania N113DRB's over those three buses any day lol.
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