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Post by londonbuses on Jan 11, 2023 14:09:57 GMT
159 (N) - withdraw between Saint Lenoard's Church and Streatham Station (already served by the N109, N133 and N250). Extend via 57/333 to Tooting Broadway, renumbered to N159 and adjust frequency accordingly Not really much point since the 57 is a 24 hour service.
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Post by Busboy105 on Jan 17, 2023 23:42:51 GMT
278 extension from Heathrow Central to Slough, Uxbridge Road at the very least via the Colnbrook Bypass, at least during the peak times. Would reduce the severe overcrowding in the am and pm peaks on the 81, in particular at Harlington Corner. Or a school route of some kind to Slough, Uxbridge Road from Hayes. (I do sound a bit like a stuck record on the issue of overcrowding at peak times to and from Slough!) Wouldn't increasing the 81's frequency slightly be a much better idea?
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Post by georgboy on Jan 29, 2023 14:07:51 GMT
I think maybe a route that connects Morden to Kingston directly will be quite useful and popular. As at the moment you have to go up to South Wimbledon and get a 131 or 57
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Post by southlondon413 on Jan 29, 2023 14:15:59 GMT
I think maybe a route that connects Morden to Kingston directly will be quite useful and popular. As at the moment you have to go up to South Wimbledon and get a 131 or 57 There is always the K5.
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Post by londonbuses on Jan 29, 2023 14:25:24 GMT
I think maybe a route that connects Morden to Kingston directly will be quite useful and popular. As at the moment you have to go up to South Wimbledon and get a 131 or 57 Completely agree with this. A totally fantasy idea I had a while ago was to withdraw the 285 between Hatton Cross and Heathrow (the Piccadilly Line from Hatton Cross to Heathrow is free and significantly faster) and then extend it from Kingston to Morden via the 131 to Shannon Corner then Beverley Way, Bushey Road and Martin Way. The route is potentially too long and another route would have to be moved/extended from Morden to free up some stand space, but it provides a lot of new connections. I would reduce the 131 to 6bph with this change aswell.
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Post by abellion on Jan 29, 2023 15:50:30 GMT
I think maybe a route that connects Morden to Kingston directly will be quite useful and popular. As at the moment you have to go up to South Wimbledon and get a 131 or 57 There is always the K5. Not forgetting that it’s indirect, infrequent, and not present on Sundays or extreme hours. Either way you can just get the 57/93, 131/152/164 or 131/K5 (faster from Shannon Corner) so it doesn’t seem like an urgent link that needs to be made
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Post by southlondon413 on Jan 29, 2023 15:58:24 GMT
Not forgetting that it’s indirect, infrequent, and not present on Sundays or extreme hours. Either way you can just get the 57/93, 131/152/164 or 131/K5 (faster from Shannon Corner) so it doesn’t seem like an urgent link that needs to be made The quickest way is the 163 to Raynes Park and then either SWR or the 57/131. Any new route would just end up duplicating one of the too much.
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Post by londonbuses on Jan 29, 2023 16:43:01 GMT
The quickest way is the 163 to Raynes Park and then either SWR or the 57/131. Any new route would just end up duplicating one of the too much. Surely the quickest way would be 93 > SWR, the 163 to Raynes Park is the really long way around.
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Post by M1104 on Jan 29, 2023 17:20:05 GMT
The quickest way is the 163 to Raynes Park and then either SWR or the 57/131. Any new route would just end up duplicating one of the too much. Surely the quickest way would be 93 > SWR, the 163 to Raynes Park is the really long way around. Depending on traffic conditions and timings one could do the tram between the 93 and SWR.
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Jan 31, 2023 13:16:55 GMT
159 (N) - withdraw between Saint Lenoard's Church and Streatham Station (already served by the N109, N133 and N250). Extend via 57/333 to Tooting Broadway, renumbered to N159 and adjust frequency accordingly I think this is pointless as firstly, the 57 is already a daily 24hr route. Secondly, Central London and Tooting have two good links already— N44, N155
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Post by northlondon83 on Jan 31, 2023 20:41:37 GMT
278 extension from Heathrow Central to Slough, Uxbridge Road at the very least via the Colnbrook Bypass, at least during the peak times. Would reduce the severe overcrowding in the am and pm peaks on the 81, in particular at Harlington Corner. Or a school route of some kind to Slough, Uxbridge Road from Hayes. (I do sound a bit like a stuck record on the issue of overcrowding at peak times to and from Slough!) I think that Slough would benefit from a tfl route to Hayes via Uxbridge, I'd probably take it up the A412/A4007 to Uxbridge, Uxbridge High Street, Uxbridge station (stop on York Road, saves time in comparison to actually going through the bus station), 607 to Hayes Grapes, possible extension to Hayes or Southall stations (the latter would remove the need to cut the 427). I think a review of the Uxbridge area is needed, there's some small tweaks that I would implement like a frequency increase on the U7. I'm pretty sure on the Uxbridge bus study, it mentioned a link to Harrow, I think that would be useful.
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Post by northlondon83 on Jan 31, 2023 20:52:02 GMT
259 rerouted between Finsbury Park and Kings Cross via route 19 and route 30. To provide links from Highbury Park to Tottenham rather than most terminating at Finsbury Park
254 extended to Kings Cross via 259. Retains the link from Kings Cross to Manor House. Withdrawn between Whitechapel and Aldgate (due to route length)
106 extended to Aldgate via 254. Retains links lost on 254
I think something could be done regarding the 253, 254, 106. Another idea is to extend the 253 to Whitechapel, and extend the 106 to Aldgate like above then withdraw the 254, as there are already 3 different routes between Finsbury Park and Hackney. The 106 and 254 also duplicate each other between Clapton and Whitechapel. In the event that the 254 is withdrawn, the 106 would receive a frequency increase
30/38 swap routings between St Paul's Road and Angel. So that they can both follow the routes that I plan to withdraw
73 withdrawn, reason being that it's already heavily duplicated by the 390 and 476. Rerouting the 30 will mean that it acts as a replacement from St Paul's Road to Warren Street
19 withdrawn between Angel and Finsbury Park. Because it is duplicated by the 4 between Angel and Finsbury Park. The 38 also duplicates it between Highbury and Hyde Park on the new routing so acts as a replacement for the 19. However I would extend it to Clapham Junction because Battersea Bridge is an odd terminus and extending the 19 there would provide much more links in terms of buses and trains.
349 withdrawn as proposed
279 would not be moved to Stamford Hill, so that it can support the 259
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Post by dla314 on Jan 31, 2023 23:43:45 GMT
396 extended to East Ham, Newham Town Hall via 147 and 376. A second route between East Ham and Ilford as I find it odd there is only 1 route that goes between East Ham and Ilford.
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Post by londonboy71 on Jan 31, 2023 23:45:36 GMT
73 is a very long-established route I used ot frequently as a kid and I'm now 76 ! Leave it alone its a wee used busy route somewhat truncated these days but still useful.
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Post by vjaska on Jan 31, 2023 23:51:29 GMT
73 is a very long-established route I used ot frequently as a kid and I'm now 76 ! Leave it alone its a wee used busy route somewhat truncated these days but still useful. This is the thread where any idea, no matter how wacky, is acceptable. The other thread is where the more realistic happens and yes, the 73 is very useful still.
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