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Post by Nathan on Nov 21, 2014 13:26:37 GMT
extend 75 to south croydon extend 213 to west croydon (midnight services stays at sutton) cancel 36 24 hour and replace it with N36 (Catford to Willesden Junction via 436 then switches back to 36 to queens park and continue upwards to willesden) extend 65 to Acton Main Line Any reasons why? Extending the 213 to West Croydon would make it a very lengthy route plus Sutton already has the 154, 407 & X26 serving West Croydon. Kingston could do with a link to Croydon (excluding the X26). But yeah...maybe extending the 213 isn't the best way to go about that. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 13:29:16 GMT
Any reasons why? Extending the 213 to West Croydon would make it a very lengthy route plus Sutton already has the 154, 407 & X26 serving West Croydon. Kingston could do with a link to Croydon (excluding the X26). But yeah...maybe extending the 213 isn't the best way to go about that. Surely the X26 is sufficient although it could do with another frequency increase |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 13:32:03 GMT
im viewing the angle of kingston ppl to west croydon. After all, there is a need for both sides. 30 mins frequency, limited stops, along with ppl having luggages from the x26 is quite a burden in rush hour. Croydon is developing into a city, where if 213 moves into west croydon, there will be more economic growth to the town itself.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 13:33:46 GMT
Any reasons why? Extending the 213 to West Croydon would make it a very lengthy route plus Sutton already has the 154, 407 & X26 serving West Croydon. I assume that he meant (re)extend the 213 to West Croydon at night which I would certainly agree with? I'm not too sure about the other suggestions though Normal hours - Kingston to West Croydon Midnight hours - Kingston to sutton |
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Post by DT 11 on Nov 21, 2014 14:02:18 GMT
extend 75 to south croydon extend 213 to west croydon (midnight services stays at sutton) cancel 36 24 hour and replace it with N36 (Catford to Willesden Junction via 436 then switches back to 36 to queens park and continue upwards to willesden) extend 65 to Acton Main Line There are many buses per hour to South Croydon the 75 is fine as it is... Reason 1: Lewisham Gateway Works Reason 2: Catford Hill Traffic Reason 3: The route has worked fine in its current state for many years.... It can be a pain to get a bus when there are severe delays, but the service is run quite well The N36 is not needed the N136 serves its purpose well, the N18 goes to Willesden and is more frequent than the 36... |
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Post by rmz19 on Nov 21, 2014 14:16:01 GMT
extend 75 to south croydon extend 213 to west croydon (midnight services stays at sutton) cancel 36 24 hour and replace it with N36 (Catford to Willesden Junction via 436 then switches back to 36 to queens park and continue upwards to willesden) extend 65 to Acton Main Line I would leave the 36 24-Hour as it is, there wouldn't be a point in changing it to N36 and extending it to Willesden Junction as there wouldn't be demand, plus there is already the N18 towards Central London from there. Catford also has the N47/N136/N171 so the 36 is fine as it is. |
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Post by Volvo on Nov 21, 2014 15:22:01 GMT
My extension is get a taxi or if you can buy a car that way you can go almost where you like.....
just teasing.
No seriously though, the way I read the title of this thread is that these are fantasy as in just for fun rather than what you would like to see happen in real life, maybe I have got it wrong.
My 'fantasy' routes people wouldn't even begin to like them lol, judging by the replies I have seen some members get regarding some extensions.
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Post by vjaska on Nov 21, 2014 15:40:51 GMT
My extension is get a taxi or if you can buy a car that way you can go almost where you like..... just teasing. No seriously though, the way I read the title of this thread is that these are fantasy as in just for fun rather than what you would like to see happen in real life, maybe I have got it wrong. My 'fantasy' routes people wouldn't even begin to like them lol, judging by the replies I have seen some members get regarding some extensions. Even then though, surely some reasoning should be given as every idea, no matter how barmy, would have a reason. |
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Post by sid on Nov 21, 2014 18:03:33 GMT
My extension is get a taxi or if you can buy a car that way you can go almost where you like..... just teasing. No seriously though, the way I read the title of this thread is that these are fantasy as in just for fun rather than what you would like to see happen in real life, maybe I have got it wrong. My 'fantasy' routes people wouldn't even begin to like them lol, judging by the replies I have seen some members get regarding some extensions. Even then though, surely some reasoning should be given as every idea, no matter how barmy, would have a reason. I agree, we can all propose silly routes like Upminster to Uxbridge running every 30 seconds but what is the point? Lets keep it within the realms of reality. |
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Post by LX09FBJ on Nov 21, 2014 18:19:54 GMT
Kingston could do with a link to Croydon (excluding the X26). But yeah...maybe extending the 213 isn't the best way to go about that. Surely the X26 is sufficient although it could do with another frequency increase It needs both a frequency increase and double decking as well, it's always crowded and it's not just airport passengers (though it does carry a fair number of those as well). Maybe Airbus-style (the erstwhile Central London-Heathrow route) double decks would work prehaps with the luggage space and capacity Kingston in general needs more frequent buses, as the 71, 111 and 281 are overcrowded in the peak. I'm not sure what other routes are like as I don't use them on a regular basis. Even the 406/418 can sometimes be a tad busy. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 18:23:11 GMT
Surely the X26 is sufficient although it could do with another frequency increase It needs both a frequency increase and double decking as well, it's always crowded and it's not just airport passengers (though it does carry a fair number of those as well). Maybe Airbus-style (the erstwhile Central London-Heathrow route) double decks would work prehaps with the luggage space and capacity Kingston in general needs more frequent buses, as the 71, 111 and 281 are overcrowded in the peak. I'm not sure what other routes are like as I don't use them on a regular basis. Even the 406/418 can sometimes be a tad busy. I can't see what the case would be against tri-axles on the X26 as the dwell times are already very long with one-doored 12m buses and limited stops. As for the 406/418 they're due a frequency increase at some point (or may have already had it - I can't remember the date) |
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Post by LX09FBJ on Nov 21, 2014 18:37:57 GMT
It needs both a frequency increase and double decking as well, it's always crowded and it's not just airport passengers (though it does carry a fair number of those as well). Maybe Airbus-style (the erstwhile Central London-Heathrow route) double decks would work prehaps with the luggage space and capacity Kingston in general needs more frequent buses, as the 71, 111 and 281 are overcrowded in the peak. I'm not sure what other routes are like as I don't use them on a regular basis. Even the 406/418 can sometimes be a tad busy. I can't see what the case would be against tri-axles on the X26 as the dwell times are already very long with one-doored 12m buses and limited stops. As for the 406/418 they're due a frequency increase at some point (or may have already had it - I can't remember the date) Both now run x20 mins to create x10 combined frequency between Kingston and Epsom when 418 gained it's new contract In regard to the 213, I think the N213 should be extended back to West Croydon given that it restores the Kingston-Croydon and Sutton Croydon night link. Extra links could include extending the 152 at both ends to Kingston from New Malden and to West Croydon from Pollards Hill. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2014 14:45:50 GMT
There is no quick easy way by rail or road from the Plumstead / Woolwich areas to Bromley. I think this is a link that is needed. It took me over 90 mins doing this trip yesterday.
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Post by twobellstogo on Dec 13, 2014 16:28:54 GMT
There is no quick easy way by rail or road from the Plumstead / Woolwich areas to Bromley. I think this is a link that is needed. It took me over 90 mins doing this trip yesterday. Obvious way would be to withdraw 126 between Eltham Church and Southend Crescent, and instead extend at least to Woolwich via Well Hall Road/Academy Road, and possibly onward to Plumstead Common via 53, to terminate on the old 53 stand on the Common. |
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Post by DT 11 on Dec 13, 2014 17:25:02 GMT
There is no quick easy way by rail or road from the Plumstead / Woolwich areas to Bromley. I think this is a link that is needed. It took me over 90 mins doing this trip yesterday. 54 & 320 take at least 50 mins, 126 & 161 take at least 50 mins. Can also take 51 & 269 which is longer. |
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