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Post by dennistas on May 30, 2019 12:25:21 GMT
LBR mentions changes to routes 4, 9 and 46, and the withdrawal of the RV1, to be taking place on the 15th June. Will any other central London changes take place at the same time? If so, are new PVRs announced yet? Almost all of the changes take place then. Only the 26 (increased freq), 48, 55 and 388 (to London Bridge) take place in October. We have already seen a GAL notice setting out their PVR changes - it's on the forum somewhere. As for the rest who knows? As the 171 will be cut back to E&C, what's the best route to take for TCR? |
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Post by snoggle on May 30, 2019 12:31:30 GMT
Almost all of the changes take place then. Only the 26 (increased freq), 48, 55 and 388 (to London Bridge) take place in October. We have already seen a GAL notice setting out their PVR changes - it's on the forum somewhere. As for the rest who knows? As the 171 will be cut back to E&C, what's the best route to take for TCR? 1 or 176? |
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Post by sid on May 30, 2019 12:32:38 GMT
LBR mentions changes to routes 4, 9 and 46, and the withdrawal of the RV1, to be taking place on the 15th June. Will any other central London changes take place at the same time? If so, are new PVRs announced yet? |
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Post by dennistas on May 30, 2019 13:08:17 GMT
As the 171 will be cut back to E&C, what's the best route to take for TCR? 1 or 176? I just can't understand why more Night routes will continue serving zone 1 and most day routes cut back. For example the N171 will continue serving TCR. |
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Post by rhys on May 30, 2019 13:47:32 GMT
I just can't understand why more Night routes will continue serving zone 1 and most day routes cut back. For example the N171 will continue serving TCR. I can understand why night routes aren't altered. If you notice, most night routes that enter zone 1 usually have a common terminus, such as Trafalgar Square or TCR. I've always imagined that it allows for passengers travelling at night, by bus, to be able to reach any connecting routes or hotspots with as much ease as possible. Especially given that night bus routes aren't as frequent as daytime routes, plus you also have to consider that travel patterns at night, are often not the same as during the day. |
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Post by vjaska on May 30, 2019 14:00:03 GMT
LBR mentions changes to routes 4, 9 and 46, and the withdrawal of the RV1, to be taking place on the 15th June. Will any other central London changes take place at the same time? If so, are new PVRs announced yet? Almost all of the changes take place then. Only the 26 (increased freq), 48, 55 and 388 (to London Bridge) take place in October. We have already seen a GAL notice setting out their PVR changes - it's on the forum somewhere. As for the rest who knows? As well as the Abellio PVR changes for the 3 & 45 which were in the same post - just the other operators to wait for now. |
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Post by rif153 on May 30, 2019 14:10:06 GMT
LBR mentions changes to routes 4, 9 and 46, and the withdrawal of the RV1, to be taking place on the 15th June. Will any other central London changes take place at the same time? If so, are new PVRs announced yet? Almost all of the changes take place then. Only the 26 (increased freq), 48, 55 and 388 (to London Bridge) take place in October. We have already seen a GAL notice setting out their PVR changes - it's on the forum somewhere. As for the rest who knows? I believe I saw a post on another thread confirming the PVR changes for Abellio. The 3's PVR will drop by 1 whilst the 45's PVR will drop by 8 |
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Post by southlondonbus on May 30, 2019 15:14:40 GMT
That could be 8-9 buses released from yje 45 to the 407.
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Post by rif153 on May 30, 2019 15:44:23 GMT
That could be 8-9 buses released from yje 45 to the 407. Plus one LT made spare from the 3 cut will go to the 415 which will in turn release another bus for the 407. It remains to be seen what vehicle is offloaded. Abellio may well just send MMCs from WL to BC to give a common pool of MMCs with the 109 but even if they send the 8 MMCs released from the 45 cut and one indirectly released from the 3 cut, where will the other 6 buses to make up the 407's TVR of 15 come from? |
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Post by WSD3 on May 30, 2019 16:14:46 GMT
That could be 8-9 buses released from yje 45 to the 407. Plus one LT made spare from the 3 cut will go to the 415 which will in turn release another bus for the 407. It remains to be seen what vehicle is offloaded. Abellio may well just send MMCs from WL to BC to give a common pool of MMCs with the 109 but even if they send the 8 MMCs released from the 45 cut and one indirectly released from the 3 cut, where will the other 6 buses to make up the 407's TVR of 15 come from? just remember the 414 is still yet to be come hybridised as of the LBEZ. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on May 30, 2019 16:15:39 GMT
Plus one LT made spare from the 3 cut will go to the 415 which will in turn release another bus for the 407. It remains to be seen what vehicle is offloaded. Abellio may well just send MMCs from WL to BC to give a common pool of MMCs with the 109 but even if they send the 8 MMCs released from the 45 cut and one indirectly released from the 3 cut, where will the other 6 buses to make up the 407's TVR of 15 come from? just remember the 414 is still yet to be come hybridised as of the LBEZ. It doesn't need to be Hybrid, just Euro6. |
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Post by WSD3 on May 30, 2019 16:16:35 GMT
just remember the 414 is still yet to be come hybridised as of the LBEZ. It doesn't need to be Hybrid, just Euro6. it was still said that the route was supposed to be getting hybrids. It was on the news section of LOTS a few weeks ago. |
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Post by rif153 on May 30, 2019 16:37:36 GMT
It doesn't need to be Hybrid, just Euro6. it was still said that the route was supposed to be getting hybrids. It was on the news section of LOTS a few weeks ago. I can't see where the hybrids would come from if they are exisitng hybrids |
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Post by M1104 on May 30, 2019 16:54:46 GMT
it was still said that the route was supposed to be getting hybrids. It was on the news section of LOTS a few weeks ago. I can't see where the hybrids would come from if they are exisitng hybrids Perhaps some will come from the 45 or with the eventual use of the 2401-13 batch that seem to be general floats at the moment. The 407 don't officially need E40Hs until later this year, although early allocations would be beneficial. |
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Post by vjaska on May 30, 2019 18:27:57 GMT
it was still said that the route was supposed to be getting hybrids. It was on the news section of LOTS a few weeks ago. I can't see where the hybrids would come from if they are exisitng hybrids 2401-2413 are the rumoured vehicles for the 414 - no idea about the rest of it's allocation. |
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