imran
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Post by imran on Oct 31, 2024 13:59:38 GMT
Looks like 257’s curtailment is extending to December. So they changed all the 257 signs a couple of weeks ago to state 8 November for the route to not return again, so not sure what the thinking was there. However, my initial thinking way back when this started was that this route would not return until the station changes occurred was right. Planning around a long term closure of Walthamstow is a lot more complicated than when it happened a few times 10+ years ago. The Hoe Street junction has a new layout preventing easy turns. The current development has taken out a bus lane on Selborne Road and also is at the location where the buses used to turn using the delivery car park area. You also have more routes. So I suspect there will alot of delays. The 58 turning at Markhouse Corner is unhelpful. 212 terminating at stop M is weird. TfL have posted letters to local residents which is an odd but helpful move. I would have thought the 58 would terminate at South Grove and the 212 at Church Hill! |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 31, 2024 14:27:12 GMT
So they changed all the 257 signs a couple of weeks ago to state 8 November for the route to not return again, so not sure what the thinking was there. However, my initial thinking way back when this started was that this route would not return until the station changes occurred was right. Planning around a long term closure of Walthamstow is a lot more complicated than when it happened a few times 10+ years ago. The Hoe Street junction has a new layout preventing easy turns. The current development has taken out a bus lane on Selborne Road and also is at the location where the buses used to turn using the delivery car park area. You also have more routes. So I suspect there will alot of delays. The 58 turning at Markhouse Corner is unhelpful. 212 terminating at stop M is weird. TfL have posted letters to local residents which is an odd but helpful move. I would have thought the 58 would terminate at South Grove and the 212 at Church Hill! I presume it's because there isn't any more room to terminate the 58 alongside the rest of the routes that will be standing at South Grove as a result of the closure as well the couple of routes turfed out of the bus station when the SL routes were created |
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Post by enviroPB on Oct 31, 2024 15:06:41 GMT
I would have thought the 58 would terminate at South Grove and the 212 at Church Hill! I presume it's because there isn't any more room to terminate the 58 alongside the rest of the routes that will be standing at South Grove as a result of the closure as well the couple of routes turfed out of the bus station when the SL routes were created Technically the South Grove curtailment on the 58 is a turn only, so there'd be no place on Markhouse Road for the 58 to stand. I assume Stagecoach will run the full PVR for the duration of the works, so I'm excited to see if the 58 will be more reliable on the rest of its route. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Nov 6, 2024 22:54:26 GMT
No updates on the TfL website yet but MyLondon is reporting a frequency increase on route 370 to x12mins Mon-Sat daytimes and x15mins evenings and Sundays from 2nd November: www.mylondon.news/news/transport/more-london-bus-services-romford-30312531.ampRobert Munster also reports that the schoolday only short workings are withdrawn. So Havering is continuing to do well with off peak frequency increases. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 7, 2024 0:34:07 GMT
No updates on the TfL website yet but MyLondon is reporting a frequency increase on route 370 to x12mins Mon-Sat daytimes and x15mins evenings and Sundays from 2nd November: www.mylondon.news/news/transport/more-london-bus-services-romford-30312531.ampRobert Munster also reports that the schoolday only short workings are withdrawn. So Havering is continuing to do well with off peak frequency increases. It should have been changed on Saturday just gone. Although most data would not show due to TfL cyber incident. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Nov 7, 2024 17:24:30 GMT
Robert Munster reporting some frequency changes from 9th November:
33 Evening and Sunday frequency increased to x12mins. Mon-Sat daytime frequency decreased to x8-9mins.
176 Evening and Sunday frequency increased to x10mins.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Nov 7, 2024 19:04:02 GMT
Robert Munster reporting some frequency changes from 9th November: 33 Evening and Sunday frequency increased to x12mins. Mon-Sat daytime frequency decreased to x8-9mins. 176 Evening and Sunday frequency increased to x10mins. I got the email about the 176 changes, but assumed it was Mon-Fri. Sunday's especially is required. |
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Post by londonbuses on Nov 7, 2024 22:56:26 GMT
Robert Munster reporting some frequency changes from 9th November: 33 Evening and Sunday frequency increased to x12mins. Mon-Sat daytime frequency decreased to x8-9mins. 176 Evening and Sunday frequency increased to x10mins. All the more reason for the 33 and 490 to be upgraded to double deckers... |
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Post by Dad91 on Nov 8, 2024 5:22:51 GMT
Robert Munster reporting some frequency changes from 9th November: 33 Evening and Sunday frequency increased to x12mins. Mon-Sat daytime frequency decreased to x8-9mins. 176 Evening and Sunday frequency increased to x10mins. All the more reason for the 33 and 490 to be upgraded to double deckers... 33 can be Deacker it's the residence Castelnau area the 490 could swap Stands R70 make it Deacker |
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Post by VMH2537 on Nov 8, 2024 10:30:35 GMT
'To meet current and expected demand Route 192 (Tottenham Hale Station to Enfield Town) buses will operate every 12 minutes instead of every 15 minutes after 19:30 on all evenings of the week from Saturday 9 November. There is no change to the frequency at any other time.'
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Post by TB123 on Nov 8, 2024 10:52:56 GMT
'To meet current and expected demand Route 192 (Tottenham Hale Station to Enfield Town) buses will operate every 12 minutes instead of every 15 minutes after 19:30 on all evenings of the week from Saturday 9 November. There is no change to the frequency at any other time.' It’s good to see these small but useful improvements. Although it still doesn’t entirely make up for the disappointing frequency cuts disproportionately occurring in inner London… |
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Post by db253 on Nov 8, 2024 11:00:06 GMT
'To meet current and expected demand Route 192 (Tottenham Hale Station to Enfield Town) buses will operate every 12 minutes instead of every 15 minutes after 19:30 on all evenings of the week from Saturday 9 November. There is no change to the frequency at any other time.' It’s good to see these small but useful improvements. Although it still doesn’t entirely make up for the disappointing frequency cuts disproportionately occurring in inner London… Indeed. They even seem to be starting on routes outside of Central again with the 432's recent result. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Nov 8, 2024 11:23:42 GMT
'To meet current and expected demand Route 192 (Tottenham Hale Station to Enfield Town) buses will operate every 12 minutes instead of every 15 minutes after 19:30 on all evenings of the week from Saturday 9 November. There is no change to the frequency at any other time.' Did you get an email about it? The Sunday daytime and evening frequency is currently x15mins! Surely the Sunday daytime frequency must be being increased too? |
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Post by db253 on Nov 8, 2024 11:37:39 GMT
'To meet current and expected demand Route 192 (Tottenham Hale Station to Enfield Town) buses will operate every 12 minutes instead of every 15 minutes after 19:30 on all evenings of the week from Saturday 9 November. There is no change to the frequency at any other time.' Did you get an email about it? The Sunday daytime and evening frequency is currently x15mins! Surely the Sunday daytime frequency must be being increased too? Incorrect, the 192 is already every 12 Sunday daytimes. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Nov 8, 2024 11:40:31 GMT
Did you get an email about it? The Sunday daytime and evening frequency is currently x15mins! Surely the Sunday daytime frequency must be being increased too? Incorrect, the 192 is already every 12 Sunday daytimes. So it is, I will email Robert Munster to ask him to correct the info on Londonbusroutes.net |
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