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Post by westhamgeezer on Jan 16, 2015 20:51:11 GMT
Personally I'd cut the 148 back to Shepherd's Bush permanently for the reasons stated above
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Post by westhamgeezer on Jan 16, 2015 20:53:29 GMT
So why isn't it diverted via the Embankment & Horse Guards Avenue? What about route 12? The 12 is getting a frequency decrease to give more running time. The 148 is supposed to be curtailed at Shepherds Bush for the same reason. Not sure about the 159, 211 or 453 which will also be affected. I suspect TfL may be worried that congestion may stretch right across Westminster Bridge and on to the Embankment thus making a diversion not feasible in terms of reliable operation. As I've already said we are going to have shedloads of this when TfL start rebuilding Vauxhall, Elephant and Castle and putting in the E-W and N-S cycle superhighways. The scale of disruption and altered schedules, curtailments etc will make the 53 change look like a picnic in comparison. I thought the 12 was getting a +2 pvr increase on same headway? |
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Post by vjaska on Jan 16, 2015 20:58:51 GMT
Personally I'd cut the 148 back to Shepherd's Bush permanently for the reasons stated above Not a bad way to save money TBH  |
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Post by snoggle on Jan 16, 2015 21:41:02 GMT
The 12 is getting a frequency decrease to give more running time. The 148 is supposed to be curtailed at Shepherds Bush for the same reason. Not sure about the 159, 211 or 453 which will also be affected. I suspect TfL may be worried that congestion may stretch right across Westminster Bridge and on to the Embankment thus making a diversion not feasible in terms of reliable operation. As I've already said we are going to have shedloads of this when TfL start rebuilding Vauxhall, Elephant and Castle and putting in the E-W and N-S cycle superhighways. The scale of disruption and altered schedules, curtailments etc will make the 53 change look like a picnic in comparison. I thought the 12 was getting a +2 pvr increase on same headway? You're correct and I was wrong. Just proves it's nigh on impossible to know for certain what's happening. Seems like the 3 is curtailing to Regent St / Conduit St / Picc Circus (depending on where you check). The 47 is curtailing to Liverpool St Bus Station or Liverpool St. The 148 is curtailing to Shepherds Bush Green. The 53 is curtailing to Lambeth North, Lambeth Palace or County Hall (depending on where you check).    |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jan 16, 2015 22:58:41 GMT
So tomorrow looks like a day where everyone just has to wake up and see what the service on affected routes is like
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Post by sid on Jan 17, 2015 8:49:33 GMT
So tomorrow looks like a day where everyone just has to wake up and see what the service on affected routes is like The 3,47,53 and 148 are confirmed on twitter |
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Post by sid on Jan 17, 2015 13:47:55 GMT
Personally I'd cut the 148 back to Shepherd's Bush permanently for the reasons stated above Why? And what about the 31? |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jan 17, 2015 14:52:29 GMT
1 or 2 53s still seem to be going Whitehall every now and again
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Post by vjaska on Jan 17, 2015 21:23:27 GMT
Personally I'd cut the 148 back to Shepherd's Bush permanently for the reasons stated above Why? And what about the 31? Because there are plenty of buses that run between Westfield and Shepherds Bush and most aren't exactly busy. |
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Post by Trident on Jan 17, 2015 21:24:43 GMT
1 or 2 53s still seem to be going Whitehall every now and again It's most likely that the curtailment has not been inputted by the driver on the iBus. All 53's are going to Lambeth North despite some showing 'Whitehall' |
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Post by sid on Jan 18, 2015 9:42:13 GMT
Why? And what about the 31? Because there are plenty of buses that run between Westfield and Shepherds Bush and most aren't exactly busy. At certain times of day they are, just like the 96 to/from Bluewater, some are empty and some are full and most are somewhere in between the two |
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Post by DT 11 on Jan 18, 2015 10:34:28 GMT
Because there are plenty of buses that run between Westfield and Shepherds Bush and most aren't exactly busy. At certain times of day they are, just like the 96 to/from Bluewater, some are empty and some are full and most are somewhere in between the two The 96 cannot really be compared to any White City routes because the 96 is the main trunk route to Bluewater and the highest frequency TFL service in Bluewater. The 96 is busier weekends when people want to go to Bluewater to do their shopping. In regards to the 148 I don't really think cutting the route to Shepherds Bush Permanently is necessary, the bus station was built for buses to stand, people use that section, but not large amounts and to be honest that section of the 148 is unique even if it takes a little longer than the other routes, the 148 is also busy pretty much the entire route, Shepherd's Bush is the stop most people board and alight. Whilst the route is cut for a short time there are plenty of routes to get to White City Bus Station or people can walk through the Shopping Centre. |
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Post by rmz19 on Jan 18, 2015 11:51:40 GMT
The 148 traditionally terminated at Shepherds Bush Green, when Westfield White City opened it was extended up Wood Lane to terminate there as it was seen as a useful link despite modest demand. I assume TFL rerouted the 31 via Shepherds Bush Station as there wouldn't be a demand for another route via Shepherds Bush Green. On that basis the 148 is alright as it is.
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Post by westhamgeezer on Jan 25, 2015 15:25:31 GMT
Interesting from Twitter. Someone asking when the 3 Will go back To Oxford Circus. Tfl bus alerts am say it is a permanent change. Asked why no consultation, tfl bus alerts advise to contact customer services.
Now I know there is no point in these consultations anyway, but when are they required to have a consultation and when are they not?
No consultation for 7/98 as far as I'm aware and looks like that is definite now permanent, yet tfl consult for minor things such as tweaks in frequency?
I wouldn't be surprised if for some routes they never go back.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jan 25, 2015 15:36:58 GMT
Interesting from Twitter. Someone asking when the 3 Will go back To Oxford Circus. Tfl bus alerts am say it is a permanent change. Asked why no consultation, tfl bus alerts advise to contact customer services. Now I know there is no point in these consultations anyway, but when are they required to have a consultation and when are they not? No consultation for 7/98 as far as I'm aware and looks like that is definite now permanent, yet tfl consult for minor things such as tweaks in frequency? I wouldn't be surprised if for some routes they never go back. The 15 is due to go back next week, so let's see if that happens Having just looked at the tweet, the person behind the computer at the TFL end doesn't know if it's temporary of premanent, but they seem confident it's a long term change |
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