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Post by george on Jun 24, 2022 6:44:07 GMT
There are going to be cuts in Barnes & Mortlake area from 16th July The 209 is being halved from every 15 minutes to every 30 minutes The 378 is rerouted and cut from ever 7.5 mins to every 15 minutes so there will be few GoAhead SEs released The 533 also gets slight frequency cut and the non stop section Hammersmith-Chiswick, goes back to normal all stops, the temporary contract has also apparently been extended until October Any idea where the 378 will be rerouted? My guess is via Church Road and Rocks lane instead of station and mill hill road.
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Jun 29, 2022 15:07:22 GMT
Route 166 - Extra buses on Sundays - 10 July 2022 Route Affected: 166
Mayfield Lavender Farm is now in full bloom and from Sunday 10 July we will be providing extra buses on Sundays and bank holiday Mondays on route 166 between Purley Tesco and Banstead Town Centre. These extra buses will run until the end of August.
Route 166 stops close to the entrance to Mayfield Lavender Farm just board or alight your route 166 bus at the bus stops named Oaks Park.
If you make a visit to Mayfield Lavender Farm this summer take the 166 bus.
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Jun 29, 2022 21:02:56 GMT
Timetable changes - 9 July 2022 Routes Affected: 111, 159 and 490
Route 111 normal timetable will resume on all days after the Hampton Court Flower Show comes to an end.
Route 159 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with journey times revised to better reflect current traffic levels.
Route 490 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with two additional journeys reintroduced in the AM peak towards Richmond on Monday to Fridays. These trips had been suspended since March 2020.
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Post by paulo on Jun 29, 2022 21:26:13 GMT
Timetable changes - 9 July 2022 Routes Affected: 111, 159 and 490 Route 111 normal timetable will resume on all days after the Hampton Court Flower Show comes to an end. Route 159 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with journey times revised to better reflect current traffic levels. Route 490 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with two additional journeys reintroduced in the AM peak towards Richmond on Monday to Fridays. These trips had been suspended since March 2020. 111 might actually improve. My observations is that there are long gaps in the service. It’s a difficult route to run with many bottlenecks so trying to do that without its home garage on the route was always going to be problematic. I doubt whether tfl considered that the though.
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Post by YX10FFN on Jun 29, 2022 21:31:08 GMT
Timetable changes - 9 July 2022 Routes Affected: 111, 159 and 490 Route 111 normal timetable will resume on all days after the Hampton Court Flower Show comes to an end. Route 159 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with journey times revised to better reflect current traffic levels. Route 490 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with two additional journeys reintroduced in the AM peak towards Richmond on Monday to Fridays. These trips had been suspended since March 2020. 111 might actually improve. My observations is that there are long gaps in the service. It’s a difficult route to run with many bottlenecks so trying to do that without its home garage on the route was always going to be problematic. I doubt whether tfl considered that the though. Observed the 111 a good few times at Kingston now and once at Hounslow as well as keeping up on LVF, Abellio seem to be encountering a fair bit of difficulty but hope this is a teething period and things will improve once they are more acquainted with the route and its many hurdles.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 29, 2022 23:19:14 GMT
Changes for route W3 It would be a standard 6 minute service, even in the peaks. It previously had some buses at 5 minutes and a few departures in the morning where even 3-4 mins apart!
ROUTE W3 SATURDAY 23 7 22 ALLOCATION - WOOD GREEN 18 BUSES REASON FOR CHANGE - REVISED SERVICE
ROUTE W3 SUNDAY 24 7 22 ALLOCATION - WOOD GREEN 13 BUSES
ROUTE W3 MON, TUES, WED & THURSDAY 25 7 22 ALLOCATION - WOOD GREEN 21 BUSES
ROUTE W3 FRIDAY ONLY 29 7 22 ALLOCATION - WOOD GREEN 21 BUSES
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Jun 30, 2022 8:41:58 GMT
Hammersmith Bridge route changes - 16 July 2022 Routes Affected: 209, 378 and 533
There will be some changes from Saturday 16 July to route 209 and the two long term temporary routes 378 and 533 which are running during the closure of Hammersmith Bridge to all vehicles.
Route 209 will have a new timetable from this date. Buses will be revised to run every 30 minutes during both the daytime as well as the evenings on all days of the week.
Route 378 will be rerouted between Barnes Pond and Mill Hill Road with buses going via Church Road, Barnes / Red Lion and Rocks Lane to Mill Hill Road with route 378 no longer serving Station Road. A new timetable will be in operation with buses running every 15 minutes during both the daytime as well as the evenings on all days of the week.
Route 533 will serve all bus stops between Mortlake Cemetery and Hogarth Roundabout in both directions. A new timetable will be in operation on all days of the week with slightly widened frequency in the AM & PM peak on Monday to Fridays.
Already know this has been posted already but will do so again.
Timetable changes - 16 July 2022 Routes Affected: 218 and H28
Route 218 will have a new timetable from this date. Buses will be revised to run every 12 minutes during both the daytime as well as the evenings on all days of the week.
Route H28 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times.
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Post by snowman on Jun 30, 2022 8:50:42 GMT
Hammersmith Bridge route changes - 16 July 2022 Routes Affected: 209, 378 and 533 There will be some changes from Saturday 16 July to route 209 and the two long term temporary routes 378 and 533 which are running during the closure of Hammersmith Bridge to all vehicles. Route 209 will have a new timetable from this date. Buses will be revised to run every 30 minutes during both the daytime as well as the evenings on all days of the week. Route 378 will be rerouted between Barnes Pond and Mill Hill Road with buses going via Church Road, Barnes / Red Lion and Rocks Lane to Mill Hill Road with route 378 no longer serving Station Road. A new timetable will be in operation with buses running every 15 minutes during both the daytime as well as the evenings on all days of the week. Route 533 will serve all bus stops between Mortlake Cemetery and Hogarth Roundabout in both directions. A new timetable will be in operation on all days of the week with slightly widened frequency in the AM & PM peak on Monday to Fridays. Already know this has been posted already but will do so again. Timetable changes - 16 July 2022 Routes Affected: 218 and H28 Route 218 will have a new timetable from this date. Buses will be revised to run every 12 minutes during both the daytime as well as the evenings on all days of the week. Route H28 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. The 218 is currently every 10 mins Mon-Sat so goes from 6 buses per hour to 5, PVR is currently 11 so not sure if it will be 9 or 10 But might be end of DE 20048 and 20049
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Post by evergreenadam on Jun 30, 2022 8:55:48 GMT
Hammersmith Bridge route changes - 16 July 2022 Routes Affected: 209, 378 and 533 There will be some changes from Saturday 16 July to route 209 and the two long term temporary routes 378 and 533 which are running during the closure of Hammersmith Bridge to all vehicles. Route 209 will have a new timetable from this date. Buses will be revised to run every 30 minutes during both the daytime as well as the evenings on all days of the week. Route 378 will be rerouted between Barnes Pond and Mill Hill Road with buses going via Church Road, Barnes / Red Lion and Rocks Lane to Mill Hill Road with route 378 no longer serving Station Road. A new timetable will be in operation with buses running every 15 minutes during both the daytime as well as the evenings on all days of the week. Route 533 will serve all bus stops between Mortlake Cemetery and Hogarth Roundabout in both directions. A new timetable will be in operation on all days of the week with slightly widened frequency in the AM & PM peak on Monday to Fridays. Already know this has been posted already but will do so again. Timetable changes - 16 July 2022 Routes Affected: 218 and H28 Route 218 will have a new timetable from this date. Buses will be revised to run every 12 minutes during both the daytime as well as the evenings on all days of the week. Route H28 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. The 218 is currently every 10 mins Mon-Sat so goes from 6 buses per hour to 5, PVR is currently 11 so not sure if it will be 9 or 10 But might be end of DE 20048 and 20049 The worst possible result after the rather botched 266/218/306 changes were introduced. The single deckers on the 218 are busy between Hammersmith and Acton and the 306 double deckers are almost empty since the route terminates short of Acton High Street which means it’s only suitable for short local journeys from Acton Vale to Hammersmith. So they reduce the frequency of the single deck route! I wouldn’t mind so much if they extended to 306 to somewhere useful!
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 30, 2022 9:11:52 GMT
The 218 is currently every 10 mins Mon-Sat so goes from 6 buses per hour to 5, PVR is currently 11 so not sure if it will be 9 or 10 But might be end of DE 20048 and 20049 The worst possible result after the rather botched 266/218/306 changes were introduced. The single deckers on the 218 are busy between Hammersmith and Acton and the 306 double deckers are almost empty since the route terminates short of Acton High Street which means it’s only suitable for short local journeys from Acton Vale to Hammersmith. So they reduce the frequency of the single deck route! I wouldn’t mind so much if they extended to 306 to somewhere useful! I always thought they changes were slightly over complicated and didn't do as well as they could have. Yes the 266 was too long but I would have simply done it Acton to Brent Cross and Hammersmith to North Acton with DDs. Trying to divert the 218 along roads that can only use DDs the introducing another route along Askew road that stopped short just short of Acton hasn't really worked.
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Post by YX10FFN on Jun 30, 2022 13:06:39 GMT
The 218 is currently every 10 mins Mon-Sat so goes from 6 buses per hour to 5, PVR is currently 11 so not sure if it will be 9 or 10 But might be end of DE 20048 and 20049 The worst possible result after the rather botched 266/218/306 changes were introduced. The single deckers on the 218 are busy between Hammersmith and Acton and the 306 double deckers are almost empty since the route terminates short of Acton High Street which means it’s only suitable for short local journeys from Acton Vale to Hammersmith. So they reduce the frequency of the single deck route! I wouldn’t mind so much if they extended to 306 to somewhere useful! The Acton to Hammersmith link should be double deck regardless of the route running on it. You combine the Acton Vale terminus with the fact the 306 is massively overtimed on that section and it turns into an obscure route that passengers avoid, with sporadic headway and very little purpose on its western end. I’ve never believed that the Hammersmith-Sands End section needed a double deck route anyway, the 391’s service pattern most accurately reflected demand. Anyway, my solution is to extend the 306 to Acton Town Centre and then route it up to North Acton directly via the existing 440. This gives the route far more purpose and a useful overlap section with the 266. When the Elizabeth Line is complete, that Acton-Acton Main Line section will become very busy. The 306 would receive a healthy increase and the timetable can be suitably cushioned given the traffic obstacles that route would certainly face. The 440 would return to its previous West Acton routing and the 218 can be done away with. I’m not convinced that routing the 440 via West Acton would ruin the reliability on the rest of the route.
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Post by evergreenadam on Jun 30, 2022 16:17:24 GMT
The worst possible result after the rather botched 266/218/306 changes were introduced. The single deckers on the 218 are busy between Hammersmith and Acton and the 306 double deckers are almost empty since the route terminates short of Acton High Street which means it’s only suitable for short local journeys from Acton Vale to Hammersmith. So they reduce the frequency of the single deck route! I wouldn’t mind so much if they extended to 306 to somewhere useful! The Acton to Hammersmith link should be double deck regardless of the route running on it. You combine the Acton Vale terminus with the fact the 306 is massively overtimed on that section and it turns into an obscure route that passengers avoid, with sporadic headway and very little purpose on its western end. I’ve never believed that the Hammersmith-Sands End section needed a double deck route anyway, the 391’s service pattern most accurately reflected demand. Anyway, my solution is to extend the 306 to Acton Town Centre and then route it up to North Acton directly via the existing 440. This gives the route far more purpose and a useful overlap section with the 266. When the Elizabeth Line is complete, that Acton-Acton Main Line section will become very busy. The 306 would receive a healthy increase and the timetable can be suitably cushioned given the traffic obstacles that route would certainly face. The 440 would return to its previous West Acton routing and the 218 can be done away with. I’m not convinced that routing the 440 via West Acton would ruin the reliability on the rest of the route. I agree with the merits of the proposed route structure, although I understand that the direct Acton to Wembley routing of the 440 along Horn Lane has built up a bit of a following that might be undermined by returning the route to the back roads of West Acton. In terms of frequencies the 306 would need to be increased in frequency to at least x10mins. If it were the sole route operating between Acton and Hammersmith then the current x12min frequency would represent a significant downgrade from the frequency previously provided by the 266 and you would run into a lot of local opposition.
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Post by ADH45258 on Jun 30, 2022 16:27:52 GMT
The Acton to Hammersmith link should be double deck regardless of the route running on it. You combine the Acton Vale terminus with the fact the 306 is massively overtimed on that section and it turns into an obscure route that passengers avoid, with sporadic headway and very little purpose on its western end. I’ve never believed that the Hammersmith-Sands End section needed a double deck route anyway, the 391’s service pattern most accurately reflected demand. Anyway, my solution is to extend the 306 to Acton Town Centre and then route it up to North Acton directly via the existing 440. This gives the route far more purpose and a useful overlap section with the 266. When the Elizabeth Line is complete, that Acton-Acton Main Line section will become very busy. The 306 would receive a healthy increase and the timetable can be suitably cushioned given the traffic obstacles that route would certainly face. The 440 would return to its previous West Acton routing and the 218 can be done away with. I’m not convinced that routing the 440 via West Acton would ruin the reliability on the rest of the route. I agree with the merits of the proposed route structure, although I understand that the direct Acton to Wembley routing of the 440 along Horn Lane has built up a bit of a following that might be undermined by returning the route to the back roads of West Acton. In terms of frequencies the 306 would need to be increased in frequency to at least x10mins. If it were the sole route operating between Acton and Hammersmith then the current x12min frequency would represent a significant downgrade from the frequency previously provided by the 266 and you would run into a lot of local opposition. I think TFL's main reason for diverting the 440 away from West Acton was for new links to/from Crossrail at Acton Main Line station. However, as the old routeing only just misses the station (at the junction between Horn Lane and Noel Road), I wonder if a double run might work, if there is much demand for the Elizabeth line? There is a mini roundabout just south of Acton Main Line station for buses to turn around.
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Jun 30, 2022 16:30:34 GMT
I agree with the merits of the proposed route structure, although I understand that the direct Acton to Wembley routing of the 440 along Horn Lane has built up a bit of a following that might be undermined by returning the route to the back roads of West Acton. In terms of frequencies the 306 would need to be increased in frequency to at least x10mins. If it were the sole route operating between Acton and Hammersmith then the current x12min frequency would represent a significant downgrade from the frequency previously provided by the 266 and you would run into a lot of local opposition. I think TFL's main reason for diverting the 440 away from West Acton was for new links to/from Crossrail at Acton Main Line station. However, as the old routeing only just misses the station (at the junction between Horn Lane and Noel Road), I wonder if a double run might work, if there is much demand for the Elizabeth line? There is a mini roundabout just south of Acton Main Line station for buses to turn around. The reason 440 was re-routed away from West Acton was mainly so 218 could go there, but Crossrail was probably another reason
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Post by YX10FFN on Jun 30, 2022 17:00:34 GMT
I think TFL's main reason for diverting the 440 away from West Acton was for new links to/from Crossrail at Acton Main Line station. However, as the old routeing only just misses the station (at the junction between Horn Lane and Noel Road), I wonder if a double run might work, if there is much demand for the Elizabeth line? There is a mini roundabout just south of Acton Main Line station for buses to turn around. The reason 440 was re-routed away from West Acton was mainly so 218 could go there, but Crossrail was probably another reason Wasn't it, along with taking it away from Twyford Abbey Road in Park Royal, to give it a more direct routing for its extension to Wembley? The 218 would thus have been an amalgamation of the need to make the 440 more direct and replacing the 266 south of Acton.
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