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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Jun 30, 2022 17:53:48 GMT
The reason 440 was re-routed away from West Acton was mainly so 218 could go there, but Crossrail was probably another reason Wasn't it, along with taking it away from Twyford Abbey Road in Park Royal, to give it a more direct routing for its extension to Wembley? The 218 would thus have been an amalgamation of the need to make the 440 more direct and replacing the 266 south of Acton. I think it was both a direct LOR for the Wembley extension and for 218, however I see what you're driving at
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Post by Frenzie on Jul 1, 2022 13:54:14 GMT
111 might actually improve. My observations is that there are long gaps in the service. It’s a difficult route to run with many bottlenecks so trying to do that without its home garage on the route was always going to be problematic. I doubt whether tfl considered that the though. Observed the 111 a good few times at Kingston now and once at Hounslow as well as keeping up on LVF, Abellio seem to be encountering a fair bit of difficulty but hope this is a teething period and things will improve once they are more acquainted with the route and its many hurdles. Abellio have been tragic on the route. I’ve heard TF is around 80 drivers short which can’t help. The route has been unreliable and I’ve had to avoid it to get to Kingston.
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Post by LK65EBO on Jul 1, 2022 14:18:15 GMT
Observed the 111 a good few times at Kingston now and once at Hounslow as well as keeping up on LVF, Abellio seem to be encountering a fair bit of difficulty but hope this is a teething period and things will improve once they are more acquainted with the route and its many hurdles. Abellio have been tragic on the route. I’ve heard TF is around 80 drivers short which can’t help. The route has been unreliable and I’ve had to avoid it to get to Kingston. Think that is because of the bonus RATP offered to the existing 111 drivers who are now at WK on 235
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Post by Frenzie on Jul 1, 2022 14:53:51 GMT
Abellio have been tragic on the route. I’ve heard TF is around 80 drivers short which can’t help. The route has been unreliable and I’ve had to avoid it to get to Kingston. Think that is because of the bonus RATP offered to the existing 111 drivers who are now at WK on 235 More because no RATP driver wants to work for Abellio.
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Post by rj131 on Jul 1, 2022 16:42:50 GMT
Hammersmith Bridge route changes - 16 July 2022 Routes Affected: 209, 378 and 533 There will be some changes from Saturday 16 July to route 209 and the two long term temporary routes 378 and 533 which are running during the closure of Hammersmith Bridge to all vehicles. Route 209 will have a new timetable from this date. Buses will be revised to run every 30 minutes during both the daytime as well as the evenings on all days of the week. Route 378 will be rerouted between Barnes Pond and Mill Hill Road with buses going via Church Road, Barnes / Red Lion and Rocks Lane to Mill Hill Road with route 378 no longer serving Station Road. A new timetable will be in operation with buses running every 15 minutes during both the daytime as well as the evenings on all days of the week. Route 533 will serve all bus stops between Mortlake Cemetery and Hogarth Roundabout in both directions. A new timetable will be in operation on all days of the week with slightly widened frequency in the AM & PM peak on Monday to Fridays. Already know this has been posted already but will do so again. Timetable changes - 16 July 2022 Routes Affected: 218 and H28 Route 218 will have a new timetable from this date. Buses will be revised to run every 12 minutes during both the daytime as well as the evenings on all days of the week. Route H28 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. The 218 is currently every 10 mins Mon-Sat so goes from 6 buses per hour to 5, PVR is currently 11 so not sure if it will be 9 or 10 But might be end of DE 20048 and 20049 Im surprised at that, the 218 is absolutely rammed most of the time and the 306 is often empty, totally nonsensical. I’m sure the 306 get a lot more would get a lot more use if it went as far as Action Central/Old Town Hall. That always seems to be the biggest exodus point of the 218.
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Post by rj131 on Jul 1, 2022 16:47:38 GMT
Think that is because of the bonus RATP offered to the existing 111 drivers who are now at WK on 235 More because no RATP driver wants to work for Abellio. Isnt it rumoured (albeit only on here) that long serving London United drivers are on quite high wage packets hence why they would want to stay where they are? Or are Abellio just not particularly nice to work for?
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Post by LK65EBO on Jul 1, 2022 16:50:50 GMT
More because no RATP driver wants to work for Abellio. Isnt it rumoured (albeit only on here) that long serving London United drivers are on quite high wage packets hence why they would want to stay where they are? Or are Abellio just not particularly nice to work for?I think that was just his opinion. I think if I was ever a driver I would rather work for TF than AV/AH/WK. Someone from Abellio on FB did say that the canteen at TF wasn't great compared to the one found at FW.
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Post by rj131 on Jul 1, 2022 16:57:05 GMT
Isnt it rumoured (albeit only on here) that long serving London United drivers are on quite high wage packets hence why they would want to stay where they are? Or are Abellio just not particularly nice to work for?I think that was just his opinion. I think if I was ever a driver I would rather work for TF than AV/AH/WK. Someone from Abellio on FB did say that the canteen at TF wasn't great compared to the one found at FW. Well we’ll see Frenzie is probably the most knowledgeable forum member on here with things related to that area of London, the 111 is his speciality 😂 no doubt about it the 111 must rank as one of the hardest routes in the whole of London to try and run.
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Post by wirewiper on Jul 3, 2022 17:32:42 GMT
The Summer extras on route 166 start on 9th July and run until the end of August. These are extra journeys on Saturdays and Sundays between Purley and Banstead to cater for extra visitors to the Lavender Fields near Woodmansterne (the Saturday journeys duplicate through Croydon-Epsom journeys).
From Purley (Downlands Precinct) at 11.08, 12.10 & 13.10 on Saturdays, and 11.51 and 12.51 on Sundays From Banstead (Marks & Spencer) at 15.50, 16.48. 17.48 & 18.49 on Saturdays, and 15.30, 16.30 & 17.29 on Sundays
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Post by titan1mike on Jul 6, 2022 19:52:46 GMT
The Summer extras on route 166 start on 9th July and run until the end of August. These are extra journeys on Saturdays and Sundays between Purley and Banstead to cater for extra visitors to the Lavender Fields near Woodmansterne (the Saturday journeys duplicate through Croydon-Epsom journeys). From Purley (Downlands Precinct) at 11.08, 12.10 & 13.10 on Saturdays, and 11.51 and 12.51 on Sundays From Banstead (Marks & Spencer) at 15.50, 16.48. 17.48 & 18.49 on Saturdays, and 15.30, 16.30 & 17.29 on Sundays The times on at least Saturday are different from what you quote. I will post the new departure times tomorrow.
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Jul 9, 2022 8:27:22 GMT
Obviously as most will already know. Just posting for those that are not aware.
Route R7 rerouted - 23 July 2022 Route Affected: R7
Route R7 will be rerouted in Chelsfield Village from Saturday 23 July.
The change will see buses heading towards Chislehurst rerouted via Church Road with Bucks Cross Road, Maypole Road and Hewitts Road no longer served. The three bus stops along these roads will be permanently closed and passengers will need to walk to or from the bus stop at Chelsfield Village Hall instead. Passengers should take care when walking along the country roads in the area.
There will be no change to the route buses take towards Chelsfield Village.
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Post by Busboy105 on Jul 9, 2022 22:56:38 GMT
Obviously as most will already know. Just posting for those that are not aware. Route R7 rerouted - 23 July 2022 Route Affected: R7 Route R7 will be rerouted in Chelsfield Village from Saturday 23 July. The change will see buses heading towards Chislehurst rerouted via Church Road with Bucks Cross Road, Maypole Road and Hewitts Road no longer served. The three bus stops along these roads will be permanently closed and passengers will need to walk to or from the bus stop at Chelsfield Village Hall instead. Passengers should take care when walking along the country roads in the area. There will be no change to the route buses take towards Chelsfield Village. Passengers should take care when walking along the country roads in the area. That quote just peees me off... excuse My Italian
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Post by Paul on Jul 10, 2022 12:51:45 GMT
Obviously as most will already know. Just posting for those that are not aware. Route R7 rerouted - 23 July 2022 Route Affected: R7 Route R7 will be rerouted in Chelsfield Village from Saturday 23 July. The change will see buses heading towards Chislehurst rerouted via Church Road with Bucks Cross Road, Maypole Road and Hewitts Road no longer served. The three bus stops along these roads will be permanently closed and passengers will need to walk to or from the bus stop at Chelsfield Village Hall instead. Passengers should take care when walking along the country roads in the area. There will be no change to the route buses take towards Chelsfield Village. Passengers should take care when walking along the country roads in the area. That quote just peees me off... excuse My Italian That one annoyed me too. Passengers wouldn’t need to take care if the service was maintained along said country lanes! But as I’ve said before, people won’t walk to the Five Bells - they will drive. And when passengers numbers from Chelsfield drop off a cliff the route will be withdrawn entirely from the village……. Not sure if it’s been mentioned before but Church Road can see parking issues. On a number of occasions when finishing service at the Five Bells I had to go around the loop because of poorly parked cars. It’s just a disaster all around
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Post by uakari on Aug 1, 2022 2:26:07 GMT
Passengers should take care when walking along the country roads in the area. That quote just peees me off... excuse My Italian That one annoyed me too. Passengers wouldn’t need to take care if the service was maintained along said country lanes! But as I’ve said before, people won’t walk to the Five Bells - they will drive. And when passengers numbers from Chelsfield drop off a cliff the route will be withdrawn entirely from the village……. Not sure if it’s been mentioned before but Church Road can see parking issues. On a number of occasions when finishing service at the Five Bells I had to go around the loop because of poorly parked cars. It’s just a disaster all around It's so bloody patronising and thoughtless, isn't it? They wouldn't expect their own elderly relatives to walk a mile along winding roads with no pavement but it's fine for people and places that don't 'matter'. People plan where they live around bus accessibility so I am sure there are passengers who don't have cars, especially older people, who will become completely isolated at home. This is also the situation with the 84 and 505 axe without replacement and the 384 rerouting - TfL don't care or even seem to understand how people in rural, semi-rural, or outer suburban residential areas rely on a single bus route as a lifeline and aren't within reasonable walking distance of others, so when that one route is taken away they lose their independence and are totally stuck.
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Post by Paul on Aug 1, 2022 3:10:15 GMT
That one annoyed me too. Passengers wouldn’t need to take care if the service was maintained along said country lanes! But as I’ve said before, people won’t walk to the Five Bells - they will drive. And when passengers numbers from Chelsfield drop off a cliff the route will be withdrawn entirely from the village……. Not sure if it’s been mentioned before but Church Road can see parking issues. On a number of occasions when finishing service at the Five Bells I had to go around the loop because of poorly parked cars. It’s just a disaster all around It's so bloody patronising and thoughtless, isn't it? They wouldn't expect their own elderly relatives to walk a mile along winding roads with no pavement but it's fine for people and places that don't 'matter'. People plan where they live around bus accessibility……. There was one woman who lived in Chislehurst who made the journey to the Jubilee Road stop and back a couple of times. After the second time she asked me if the service was reliable. I was honest and told her that we suffered delays in the peaks due to traffic but we almost always made it to and around the Chelsfield loop. After I saw her a couple more times she told me that she had decided to take a job in the Chelsfield area because she’d found that at the times she needed to be at work the service was pretty much perfect (her words). I don’t know if she still works wherever it is she worked off Jubilee Road but it is a perfect example of the benefits of a rural route like the R7. Obviously you can’t plan a service around the needs of one person but there are (were?) a small number of very regular patrons (as well as irregular large groups going paintballing) for whom the R7 provided a lifeline. It’s downright irresponsible of TfL to remove this lifeline and should set alarm bells ringing for users of other rural routes around London
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