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Post by abc on Aug 14, 2022 2:26:37 GMT
Stop arrangement changing from tomorrow at Victoria Station: - 52 to stop A - 11, 211, C1, N11 stop R - 44,C10, N44 stop G - 185 will start picking up from ghe bus station area (I don't recall the exact stop) What about the 170? I always thought it should pick up with the 44. Interesting to see the 44/C1/C10 split up, I remember the tiny pavement overflowing at the pre-covid stop. The current stopping arrangement is great and gives plenty of space for the 11/44/170 etc. Why does it need to change? 170 stays at stop G and is being joined by 44,N44,C10. I assume stop R becomes the Sloane Square stop, while G serves the remaining routes.
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Post by ronnie on Aug 14, 2022 9:47:41 GMT
Seems they've done the same thing for the other areas in London. Bus changes in the North London area This section covers changes to bus routes that pass through the London boroughs of Barnet, Brent, Enfield, Harrow, Haringey and Islington. There are no planned changes at this time. Bus changes in the East London area This section covers changes to bus routes that pass through the London boroughs of Barking & Dagenham, Havering, Hackney, Newham, Redbridge, Tower Hamlets and Waltham Forest. There are no planned changes at this time. Bus changes in the South London area This section covers changes to bus routes that pass through the London boroughs of Bromley, Bexley, Croydon, Greenwich, Lambeth, Lewisham, Merton, Southwark, Sutton and Wandsworth There are no planned changes at this time. Bus changes in the West London area This section covers changes to bus routes that pass through the London boroughs of Ealing, Hammersmith & Fulham, Hillingdon, Hounslow, Kingston and Richmond. There are no planned changes at this time. Looks like unnecessary categorisation to me.
But this new way of dividing up London's bus routes has got me wondering...
Which route, if it ever changed, would be repeated in the most categories?
I reckon it's the 341, which would have to be listed under Central London, North London, East London and South London, missing out only on West London.
The 388 May soon join the list East, north east, central, south?
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Post by northlondon83 on Aug 14, 2022 9:58:09 GMT
Seems they've done the same thing for the other areas in London. Bus changes in the North London area This section covers changes to bus routes that pass through the London boroughs of Barnet, Brent, Enfield, Harrow, Haringey and Islington. There are no planned changes at this time. Bus changes in the East London area This section covers changes to bus routes that pass through the London boroughs of Barking & Dagenham, Havering, Hackney, Newham, Redbridge, Tower Hamlets and Waltham Forest. There are no planned changes at this time. Bus changes in the South London area This section covers changes to bus routes that pass through the London boroughs of Bromley, Bexley, Croydon, Greenwich, Lambeth, Lewisham, Merton, Southwark, Sutton and Wandsworth There are no planned changes at this time. Bus changes in the West London area This section covers changes to bus routes that pass through the London boroughs of Ealing, Hammersmith & Fulham, Hillingdon, Hounslow, Kingston and Richmond. There are no planned changes at this time. Looks like unnecessary categorisation to me.
But this new way of dividing up London's bus routes has got me wondering...
Which route, if it ever changed, would be repeated in the most categories?
I reckon it's the 341, which would have to be listed under Central London, North London, East London and South London, missing out only on West London.
Why East London? Also Waterloo isn't south London, it's still in zone 1
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Post by SILENCED on Aug 14, 2022 10:25:18 GMT
Looks like unnecessary categorisation to me.
But this new way of dividing up London's bus routes has got me wondering...
Which route, if it ever changed, would be repeated in the most categories?
I reckon it's the 341, which would have to be listed under Central London, North London, East London and South London, missing out only on West London.
Why East London? Also Waterloo isn't south London, it's still in zone 1 If they are going strictly by the boroughs as listed, Waterloo is in Lambeth, so meets the South London criteria.
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Post by northlondon83 on Aug 14, 2022 10:26:52 GMT
Why East London? Also Waterloo isn't south London, it's still in zone 1 If they are going strictly by the boroughs as listed, Waterloo is in Lambeth, so meets the South London criteria. True but Manor House isn't in East London even though it is in Hackney
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Post by SILENCED on Aug 14, 2022 10:29:35 GMT
If they are going strictly by the boroughs as listed, Waterloo is in Lambeth, so meets the South London criteria. True but Manor House isn't in East London even though it is in Hackney Those are the definitions defined by TfL. So for the TfL bus changes page Manor House is East London.
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Post by ronnie on Aug 14, 2022 10:58:32 GMT
Looks like unnecessary categorisation to me.
But this new way of dividing up London's bus routes has got me wondering...
Which route, if it ever changed, would be repeated in the most categories?
I reckon it's the 341, which would have to be listed under Central London, North London, East London and South London, missing out only on West London.
Why East London? Also Waterloo isn't south London, it's still in zone 1 I would have thought everything south of the river is south London, broadly speaking!
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Post by vjaska on Aug 14, 2022 12:17:37 GMT
If they are going strictly by the boroughs as listed, Waterloo is in Lambeth, so meets the South London criteria. True but Manor House isn't in East London even though it is in Hackney Hackney is classed as East London so going by those definitions they’re using, it’s right
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Post by DT 11 on Aug 14, 2022 15:23:22 GMT
The 185 will serve the same stop as the 2/N2 According to LVF 36 now has its own bus stop. Not been to Victoria in a while however last time I was there the 2 & 36 were serving the same bus stop. 36 and 2 served the same stop. Serve or no longer serve because your wording does not make sense...
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Aug 15, 2022 20:14:32 GMT
True but Manor House isn't in East London even though it is in Hackney Hackney is classed as East London so going by those definitions they’re using, it’s right But using that to classify, couldn’t you say Euston and King’s Cross are in North London (which they aren’t) just because they come under Camden
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Post by jrussa on Aug 15, 2022 20:50:44 GMT
Hackney as a town is East London, however the BOROUGH is made up of East and North London constituencies.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 15, 2022 22:12:50 GMT
Hackney as a town is East London, however the BOROUGH is made up of East and North London constituencies. Just to be clear to you & SouthLondoner468, I'm not endorsing their categorisation, merely explaining what they did. I'm aware of what Hackney is made up of
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Post by YX10FFN on Aug 15, 2022 22:22:58 GMT
Just to add a bit of clarity to the Victoria situation, I went through there yesterday and the 185 is now standing at the former 44/C1/C10 stop on Victoria Street. However as I was on the 11 I couldn't see Vauxhall Bridge Road to see if another route was using the 185's stand, or whether it had been removed.
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Post by DT 11 on Aug 16, 2022 0:11:24 GMT
Just to add a bit of clarity to the Victoria situation, I went through there yesterday and the 185 is now standing at the former 44/C1/C10 stop on Victoria Street. However as I was on the 11 I couldn't see Vauxhall Bridge Road to see if another route was using the 185's stand, or whether it had been removed. Is that just before the Junction of Buckingham Palace Road?
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Aug 16, 2022 0:14:35 GMT
Just to add a bit of clarity to the Victoria situation, I went through there yesterday and the 185 is now standing at the former 44/C1/C10 stop on Victoria Street. However as I was on the 11 I couldn't see Vauxhall Bridge Road to see if another route was using the 185's stand, or whether it had been removed. Is that just before the Junction of Buckingham Palace Road? yeah
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