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Post by southlondon413 on Sept 4, 2023 12:33:06 GMT
Worrying for whom exactly? Forum members? Might it just go occur to you that between TfL and the operating companies they have a plan and know exactly what they are doing For people who might turn up at a bus stop, not knowing that the route that they need does not serve there anymore. But, realistically how many people really know that page exists on the TfL website? |
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Post by abellion on Sept 4, 2023 12:44:07 GMT
For people who might turn up at a bus stop, not knowing that the route that they need does not serve there anymore. But, realistically how many people really know that page exists on the TfL website? I don’t think I know a single person who knows what a consultation is or that TfL have these pages. I find it hard to imagine most younger people caring for these sorts of online forms and update pages too. The big exception would be the central London proposals which circulated on TikTok but that’s because they were ridiculous. |
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Post by VMH2537 on Sept 4, 2023 12:55:48 GMT
It's definitely a bit worrying how delayed everything is getting now - it is reasonably normal for there to be no/few tender results in the summer (specifically August), but it is quite concerning that even the bus changes page on TfL's website isn't being updated now. I suspect the Bus Changes page has a regular compiler who was on leave during August. It's the sort of task that even in a big organisation can fall largely to one individual. Even if a staff's on leave, there shouldn't be a case for such a backlog to occur. Users need to be updated at whether it's timetable changes, temporary route changes etc. Ideally changes announced weeks in advance. Not even a substitute is of serious concern within. |
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 4, 2023 13:27:17 GMT
It's definitely a bit worrying how delayed everything is getting now - it is reasonably normal for there to be no/few tender results in the summer (specifically August), but it is quite concerning that even the bus changes page on TfL's website isn't being updated now. I suspect the Bus Changes page has a regular compiler who was on leave during August. It's the sort of task that even in a big organisation can fall largely to one individual. I can't believe in TfL it would be acceptable to have a single point of failure like that. If what you are saying is true, how much of a tinpot organisation are they? |
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Post by ibus246 on Sept 4, 2023 14:11:49 GMT
Worrying for whom exactly? Forum members? Might it just go occur to you that between TfL and the operating companies they have a plan and know exactly what they are doing For people who might turn up at a bus stop, not knowing that the route that they need does not serve there anymore. Those people would very much be in the minority. My comment was more steered towards the discussion based about tender results being released thus allowing enthusiasts (like the OP) to froth at the mouth in excitement. |
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Post by wirewiper on Sept 4, 2023 15:32:16 GMT
I suspect the Bus Changes page has a regular compiler who was on leave during August. It's the sort of task that even in a big organisation can fall largely to one individual. I can't believe in TfL it would be acceptable to have a single point of failure like that. If what you are saying is true, how much of a tinpot organisation are they? I didn't say a single point of failure, if someone is suddenly incapacitated I am sure there are others who could cover. However if the person who does the job regularly is on planned leave, as their line manager I might just prefer to wait until they get back. |
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Post by dominic on Sept 4, 2023 20:40:11 GMT
The changes to route 1, 168 and 188 will occur by the end of the month. That will be one of them the next time the bus changes page gets updated.
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Post by northlondon83 on Sept 4, 2023 21:05:46 GMT
The changes to route 1, 168 and 188 will occur by the end of the month. That will be one of them the next time the bus changes page gets updated. Well if they're that lazy then they might not update it until the Monday before. I'm sure there's people in London not aware of the changes |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 4, 2023 21:39:21 GMT
I can't believe in TfL it would be acceptable to have a single point of failure like that. If what you are saying is true, how much of a tinpot organisation are they? I didn't say a single point of failure, if someone is suddenly incapacitated I am sure there are others who could cover. However if the person who does the job regularly is on planned leave, as their line manager I might just prefer to wait until they get back. One thing is for sure, if I go on A/L and nobody's done my work when I get back, especially something as simple as this I'd not go down quietly. |
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Post by DE20106 on Sept 5, 2023 11:48:26 GMT
I didn't say a single point of failure, if someone is suddenly incapacitated I am sure there are others who could cover. However if the person who does the job regularly is on planned leave, as their line manager I might just prefer to wait until they get back. One thing is for sure, if I go on A/L and nobody's done my work when I get back, especially something as simple as this I'd not go down quietly. Can very much relate with that at my place of work, there is someone who is the only person skilled at a particular role, and the whole department goes to s**t when they’re off! |
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Post by gwiwer on Sept 5, 2023 19:54:58 GMT
I used the 33 from Richmond to Twickenham at 15.15 today. Not even a school day for most; that happens later in the week. Yet with all services apparently running at good even headways we left Richmond bus station full and collected more across the bridge. Take any route out of that corridor and there is going to be severe overcrowding and folk left behind.
The Twickenham (Albany) stand was mentioned above. This can be used at any time and has plenty of space. Two vehicles may stand at the same time. But it is not a public bus stop. The 290 end / start / stand is a bus stop for set-down and pick-up which is used by a fair number of passengers.
There is still no information posted at bus stops - and nothing on iBus - about any changes to routes in this area.
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 5, 2023 20:05:10 GMT
I used the 33 from Richmond to Twickenham at 15.15 today. Not even a school day for most; that happens later in the week. Yet with all services apparently running at good even headways we left Richmond bus station full and collected more across the bridge. Take any route out of that corridor and there is going to be severe overcrowding and folk left behind. The Twickenham (Albany) stand was mentioned above. This can be used at any time and has plenty of space. Two vehicles may stand at the same time. But it is not a public bus stop. The 290 end / start / stand is a bus stop for set-down and pick-up which is used by a fair number of passengers. There is still no information posted at bus stops - and nothing on iBus - about any changes to routes in this area. I wonder if something could be extended down to Twickenham instead? 190 or 419 thou stand space may be an issue with the R68 standing there aswell. |
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Post by gwiwer on Sept 5, 2023 20:07:30 GMT
I used the 33 from Richmond to Twickenham at 15.15 today. Not even a school day for most; that happens later in the week. Yet with all services apparently running at good even headways we left Richmond bus station full and collected more across the bridge. Take any route out of that corridor and there is going to be severe overcrowding and folk left behind. The Twickenham (Albany) stand was mentioned above. This can be used at any time and has plenty of space. Two vehicles may stand at the same time. But it is not a public bus stop. The 290 end / start / stand is a bus stop for set-down and pick-up which is used by a fair number of passengers. There is still no information posted at bus stops - and nothing on iBus - about any changes to routes in this area. I wonder if something could be extended down to Twickenham instead? 190 or 419 thou stand space may be an issue with the R68 standing there aswell. It's not easy terminating in Twickenham from the east. The only option is to turn off before the town centre and use the 290 stand. If you do that you cannot return to LOR because there is no left turn from London Road towards Richmond. The next available turn would be Fulwell Garage which has its own issues and is already congested both front and back. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2023 20:15:57 GMT
I used the 33 from Richmond to Twickenham at 15.15 today. Not even a school day for most; that happens later in the week. Yet with all services apparently running at good even headways we left Richmond bus station full and collected more across the bridge. Take any route out of that corridor and there is going to be severe overcrowding and folk left behind. The Twickenham (Albany) stand was mentioned above. This can be used at any time and has plenty of space. Two vehicles may stand at the same time. But it is not a public bus stop. The 290 end / start / stand is a bus stop for set-down and pick-up which is used by a fair number of passengers. There is still no information posted at bus stops - and nothing on iBus - about any changes to routes in this area. I wonder if something could be extended down to Twickenham instead? 190 or 419 thou stand space may be an issue with the R68 standing there aswell. They can use the stand at the station car park for the other route. |
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Post by londonbuses on Sept 5, 2023 20:36:36 GMT
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