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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 5, 2023 20:42:01 GMT
So that's a 5bph reduction now between Twickenham and Richmond. |
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Post by northlondon83 on Sept 5, 2023 20:45:03 GMT
Just 3 days to go and still no updates on the tfl upcoming changes pages |
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Post by londonbuses on Sept 5, 2023 21:02:05 GMT
While looking I have also found that the 71 (down from every 8 to every 9 mins), 111 (down from every 10 to every 11 mins), 285 (down from every 12 to every 13 mins) and 465 (down from every 30 to every 34 mins) are all on temporary timetables due to the Cromwell Road Bus Station closure. This wasn't publicised anywhere, not even on the page about arrangements during the closure.
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Post by surab21 on Sept 5, 2023 21:29:04 GMT
Just 3 days to go and still no updates on the tfl upcoming changes pages That's not the only method of communication though - I'm not familiar with the area so not sure but are there no notices on bus stops? Maybe frequent users of the route have received emails? I imagine that most people looking at the page you reference have a specific interest in buses. There are much more useful ways of communicating changes to customers who need to know about them rather than updating a web page that most people aren't likely to check, especially as this is quite a localised change. Targeted emails linked to Oyster usage would be my first thought. |
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Post by vjaska on Sept 5, 2023 23:18:27 GMT
Just 3 days to go and still no updates on the tfl upcoming changes pages That's not the only method of communication though - I'm not familiar with the area so not sure but are there no notices on bus stops? Maybe frequent users of the route have received emails? I imagine that most people looking at the page you reference have a specific interest in buses. There are much more useful ways of communicating changes to customers who need to know about them rather than updating a web page that most people aren't likely to check, especially as this is quite a localised change. Targeted emails linked to Oyster usage would be my first thought. The notices put up on bus stops are usually not worth reading as they usually direct you to the website rather than actually tell you what the changes are. Before, they'd actually tell you the changes and also give you the website address as well |
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Post by george on Sept 5, 2023 23:28:13 GMT
Just 3 days to go and still no updates on the tfl upcoming changes pages That's not the only method of communication though - I'm not familiar with the area so not sure but are there no notices on bus stops? Maybe frequent users of the route have received emails? I imagine that most people looking at the page you reference have a specific interest in buses. There are much more useful ways of communicating changes to customers who need to know about them rather than updating a web page that most people aren't likely to check, especially as this is quite a localised change. Targeted emails linked to Oyster usage would be my first thought. Since I was the one who first mentioned this and there's been a lot of discussion on it since I'll explain how I found out and why I posted it at the time without any official confirmation. I found out through the social media site next door, at the time I had questions but it's not really a site you would lie like that must people don't have time to make stuff up haha, so I posted on the forum striaght away. I was still sceptical though so the other day I went to speak to a bus driver who confirmed it. As well as myself another person who spoken to two R70 drivers and one R68 driver who also confirmed it. To date there has been no communication anywhere. |
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Post by YX10FFN on Sept 6, 2023 16:48:36 GMT
Just 3 days to go and still no updates on the tfl upcoming changes pages That's not the only method of communication though - I'm not familiar with the area so not sure but are there no notices on bus stops? Maybe frequent users of the route have received emails? I imagine that most people looking at the page you reference have a specific interest in buses. There are much more useful ways of communicating changes to customers who need to know about them rather than updating a web page that most people aren't likely to check, especially as this is quite a localised change. Targeted emails linked to Oyster usage would be my first thought. No information on bus stops I live round the corner from the R68 route. There will be Lots of confused passengers come Saturday. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Sept 6, 2023 16:54:05 GMT
That's not the only method of communication though - I'm not familiar with the area so not sure but are there no notices on bus stops? Maybe frequent users of the route have received emails? I imagine that most people looking at the page you reference have a specific interest in buses. There are much more useful ways of communicating changes to customers who need to know about them rather than updating a web page that most people aren't likely to check, especially as this is quite a localised change. Targeted emails linked to Oyster usage would be my first thought. No information on bus stops I live round the corner from the R68 route. There will be Lots of confused passengers come Saturday. Funny situation though, the TfL team has been out in New Malden putting signs up for a four hour closure on Burlington Road and the high street on Sunday night. |
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Post by YX10FFN on Sept 6, 2023 16:58:46 GMT
Regarding the Twickenham stand situation, it looks like the R68 will stand at Station Yard as Journey Planner says it will still stop at York Street, which would be impossible from Arragon Road.
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Post by gwiwer on Sept 6, 2023 20:21:40 GMT
I wonder if something could be extended down to Twickenham instead? 190 or 419 thou stand space may be an issue with the R68 standing there aswell. They can use the stand at the station car park for the other route. Not sure if you mean the R68 or something terminating from the Richmond direction. The existing short-turn for R68 and R70 can be used namely anticlockwise via Arragon Road and stand on the 290 terminal stand. There is no need for a bus arriving from the west to use the Albany stand except on Rugby days when the 281 does so to avoid congestion in Arragon Road. Arriving from the Richmond direction the only option to turn back towards Richmond is to take the existing LOR route via Arragon Road, cross London Road to the Albany stand, return via Arragon Road in the opposite direction to current bus flow (which is permitted; it's a two-way road) then left towards Richmond. This omits both Twickenham town centre and the station so is of only limited value to anyone. It also fails to connect directly with other routes though central Twickenham. |
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Post by gwiwer on Sept 6, 2023 20:25:41 GMT
While looking I have also found that the 71 (down from every 8 to every 9 mins), 111 (down from every 10 to every 11 mins), 285 (down from every 12 to every 13 mins) and 465 (down from every 30 to every 34 mins) are all on temporary timetables due to the Cromwell Road Bus Station closure. This wasn't publicised anywhere, not even on the page about arrangements during the closure. And this is under the guise of the Mayor supposedly improving buses in the suburbs. In particular a 34-minute headway on the 465 is utterly ridiculous. On a semi-rural route a 30-minute headway is at least memorable and desirable. Buses every 34 minutes run to a timetable no-one can remember and will be a source of frustration. The 465 needs all the business it can get to avoid a much more severe cut the next time Surrey looks at the numbers. It barely supports an hourly headway south of Leatherhead now with most trips used by just two or three people. Locals are lucky that it runs as often as it does and charges London fares not Surrey ones. Even if most of those are currently capped at £2 and will be £2.50 soon. |
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Post by surab21 on Sept 7, 2023 10:44:57 GMT
That's not the only method of communication though - I'm not familiar with the area so not sure but are there no notices on bus stops? Maybe frequent users of the route have received emails? I imagine that most people looking at the page you reference have a specific interest in buses. There are much more useful ways of communicating changes to customers who need to know about them rather than updating a web page that most people aren't likely to check, especially as this is quite a localised change. Targeted emails linked to Oyster usage would be my first thought. The notices put up on bus stops are usually not worth reading as they usually direct you to the website rather than actually tell you what the changes are. Before, they'd actually tell you the changes and also give you the website address as well That's true, definitely agree that the standard of information on those notices has decreased in quality over the last few years. |
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Post by northlondon83 on Sept 7, 2023 13:46:12 GMT
They've now updated the upcoming changes page on the tfl website. They've got rid of all the changes that took place in August but no mention of the R68 and R70 changes
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on Sept 7, 2023 13:51:43 GMT
They've now updated the upcoming changes page on the tfl website. They've got rid of all the changes that took place in August but no mention of the R68 and R70 changes They haven’t updated the page at all. It looks like in the process of updating the page as no September changes have been uploaded on the page yet. |
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Post by londonbuses on Sept 7, 2023 13:55:27 GMT
They've now updated the upcoming changes page on the tfl website. They've got rid of all the changes that took place in August but no mention of the R68 and R70 changes I'm guessing there will be an update with all the new changes later, currently it looks like they've just removed everything except the info that was already on the page about the Cromwell Road Bus Station and Wandsworth Bridge closures which are ongoing. |
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