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Post by gwiwer on Sept 10, 2023 14:49:55 GMT
TfL haven't got around to removing the Covid-era school bus posters from shelters across London yet. Nor many of the social distancing posters / stickers etc. Why would we expect them to update bus stop information for a significant route change? As we know TfL stands for Transport Failing Londoners.
I shall reserve judgement on the R6870 changes until tomorrow morning's school / peak rush. I fully expect to hear of large numbers being left behind or of ridiculously overloaded buses where the driver simply gives up and loads until the doors won't close.
A complete and completely avoidable fiasco.
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 10, 2023 15:03:30 GMT
TfL haven't got around to removing the Covid-era school bus posters from shelters across London yet. Nor many of the social distancing posters / stickers etc. Why would we expect them to update bus stop information for a significant route change? As we know TfL stands for Transport Failing Londoners. I shall reserve judgement on the R6870 changes until tomorrow morning's school / peak rush. I fully expect to hear of large numbers being left behind or of ridiculously overloaded buses where the driver simply gives up and loads until the doors won't close. A complete and completely avoidable fiasco. Definitely avoidable. At the very least the R70 could have kept the same freq and had a couple of extras from Twickenham to Richmond or seen if Abellio could do atleast 1 DD journey from maybe FW to Richmond Station in the morning. |
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Post by londonbuses on Sept 11, 2023 10:59:15 GMT
For anyone interested, the R68/R70 changes have been added to the bus changes page this morning.
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Post by northlondon83 on Sept 11, 2023 13:55:12 GMT
For anyone interested, the R68/R70 changes have been added to the bus changes page this morning. A bit shameful to put it after the changes took place. |
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Sept 11, 2023 14:28:20 GMT
Upcoming Changes:
Changes to buses from Saturday 16 September
The following timetable changes will take place from Saturday 16 September.
A temporary timetable will be introduced on route 105 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 12-13 minutes during the PM peak on Monday to Fridays, to every 13-14 minutes during the daytime on Saturdays and every 16-17 minutes during the daytime on Sundays. No change at any other time. This temporary change is to give buses more time during HS2 works on Greenford Road.
Route 199 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times.
Route 276 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. From this date route 276 will be operated by Stagecoach London.
Route 376 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times.
Route D3 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. From this date route D3 will be operated by Go Ahead London.
Route N97 will have an increased frequency on the nights of Friday 15 and Saturday 16 September only due to the suspension of night tube between Hyde Park Corner and Northfields on the Piccadilly line. Route N97 will run every 15 minutes, instead of the normal 30 minute service, between Trafalgar Square and Hammersmith in both directions.
Route N199 will have a new timetable on all nights of the week with minor changes to times.
Changes to buses from Saturday 23 September
The following timetable changes will take place from Saturday 23 September.
The temporary timetable on route 25 will be removed with the frequency of the service restored to run every 7-8 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 10 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays.
Following completion of works route 40 will be restored to running its full line of route from Clerkenwell Green to Dulwich. There will no change to the frequency of the service with buses running every 8-9 minutes during both the AM & PM peak on Monday to Fridays, every 10 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 15 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays.
A temporary timetable will be introduced on route 275 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 14 minutes during the AM & PM peak on Monday to Fridays, to every 13 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 22 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. This temporary change is to give buses more time to complete journeys while buses are diverted due to a weak bridge on Broadmead Road.
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Post by londonbuses on Sept 11, 2023 16:46:34 GMT
Changes to routes 1, 168 & 188 - 30 September 2023: From Saturday 30 September route 1 will be changed to run between Hampstead Heath and Canada Water Bus Station, route 188 will be changed to run between Tottenham Court Road Station and North Greenwich Bus Station and route 168 will be withdrawn. Route 1 will be rerouted from at Holborn Station via the current 168 route via Russell Square, Euston, Camden Town, Chalk Farm and Belsize Park to Hampstead Heath replacing route 168. Route 1 will no longer serve bus stops between Holborn Station and Tottenham Court Road Station. Route 1 will be increased to run every 8-9 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 12 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. Route 188 will be rerouted at Holborn Station to Tottenham Court Road Station via the current route 1 routeing. Route 188 will no longer serve bus stops between Holborn Station and Russell Square. Route 188 will continue to run every 10 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 12 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. The overnight service will run every 30 minutes. Route 168 will be withdrawn. Route 1 will provide an alternative option between Bricklayers Arms Roundabout and Hampstead Heath. A new timetable will also be introduced on route N1 with slight changes to times on all nights of the week. Route 59 will also have a new timetable with additional journeys introduced in the AM peak on Monday to Fridays towards St Bart's Hospital The new times for all the above routes Are available in our journey planner tool at www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey |
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 11, 2023 17:20:39 GMT
Changes to routes 1, 168 & 188 - 30 September 2023: From Saturday 30 September route 1 will be changed to run between Hampstead Heath and Canada Water Bus Station, route 188 will be changed to run between Tottenham Court Road Station and North Greenwich Bus Station and route 168 will be withdrawn. Route 1 will be rerouted from at Holborn Station via the current 168 route via Russell Square, Euston, Camden Town, Chalk Farm and Belsize Park to Hampstead Heath replacing route 168. Route 1 will no longer serve bus stops between Holborn Station and Tottenham Court Road Station. Route 1 will be increased to run every 8-9 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 12 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. Route 188 will be rerouted at Holborn Station to Tottenham Court Road Station via the current route 1 routeing. Route 188 will no longer serve bus stops between Holborn Station and Russell Square. Route 188 will continue to run every 10 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 12 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. The overnight service will run every 30 minutes. Route 168 will be withdrawn. Route 1 will provide an alternative option between Bricklayers Arms Roundabout and Hampstead Heath. A new timetable will also be introduced on route N1 with slight changes to times on all nights of the week. Route 59 will also have a new timetable with additional journeys introduced in the AM peak on Monday to Fridays towards St Bart's Hospital The new times for all the above routes Are available in our journey planner tool at www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journeyI wonder if the additional journeys on the 59 are to make up for the loss of the 168 between Waterloo and Holborn or whether there is currently capacity issues on the 59s round the corner link to City Thameslink/St Barts? |
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Post by northlondon83 on Sept 11, 2023 20:52:23 GMT
Changes to routes 1, 168 & 188 - 30 September 2023: From Saturday 30 September route 1 will be changed to run between Hampstead Heath and Canada Water Bus Station, route 188 will be changed to run between Tottenham Court Road Station and North Greenwich Bus Station and route 168 will be withdrawn. Route 1 will be rerouted from at Holborn Station via the current 168 route via Russell Square, Euston, Camden Town, Chalk Farm and Belsize Park to Hampstead Heath replacing route 168. Route 1 will no longer serve bus stops between Holborn Station and Tottenham Court Road Station. Route 1 will be increased to run every 8-9 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 12 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. Route 188 will be rerouted at Holborn Station to Tottenham Court Road Station via the current route 1 routeing. Route 188 will no longer serve bus stops between Holborn Station and Russell Square. Route 188 will continue to run every 10 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 12 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. The overnight service will run every 30 minutes. Route 168 will be withdrawn. Route 1 will provide an alternative option between Bricklayers Arms Roundabout and Hampstead Heath. A new timetable will also be introduced on route N1 with slight changes to times on all nights of the week. Route 59 will also have a new timetable with additional journeys introduced in the AM peak on Monday to Fridays towards St Bart's Hospital The new times for all the above routes Are available in our journey planner tool at www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journeyAlthough this is a much bigger change, it's funny how this gets 3 weeks notice whereas the R68 and R70 had very little coverage at all |
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Post by lonmark on Sept 11, 2023 21:18:13 GMT
Upcoming Changes: Changes to buses from Saturday 16 September The following timetable changes will take place from Saturday 16 September. Route N199 will have a new timetable on all nights of the week with minor changes to times. I note that both TfL journey and bustimes.org has cut off from around 4am and long two hours gap to Sunday first bus 208 near 6am! N199 used to be cover between last bus toward Trafalgar sq then couple buses toward Lewisham station?! Do anyone know at TL know if there is still special cover between last normal N199 and first bus 208 will be cover like 2 hours gap?! I know lots of people need a buses to work place on Sunday early morning! Bus 208 is no good as it didn't start until around late 5.45ish am. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Sept 11, 2023 21:33:33 GMT
Changes to routes 1, 168 & 188 - 30 September 2023: From Saturday 30 September route 1 will be changed to run between Hampstead Heath and Canada Water Bus Station, route 188 will be changed to run between Tottenham Court Road Station and North Greenwich Bus Station and route 168 will be withdrawn. Route 1 will be rerouted from at Holborn Station via the current 168 route via Russell Square, Euston, Camden Town, Chalk Farm and Belsize Park to Hampstead Heath replacing route 168. Route 1 will no longer serve bus stops between Holborn Station and Tottenham Court Road Station. Route 1 will be increased to run every 8-9 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 12 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. Route 188 will be rerouted at Holborn Station to Tottenham Court Road Station via the current route 1 routeing. Route 188 will no longer serve bus stops between Holborn Station and Russell Square. Route 188 will continue to run every 10 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 12 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. The overnight service will run every 30 minutes. Route 168 will be withdrawn. Route 1 will provide an alternative option between Bricklayers Arms Roundabout and Hampstead Heath. A new timetable will also be introduced on route N1 with slight changes to times on all nights of the week. Route 59 will also have a new timetable with additional journeys introduced in the AM peak on Monday to Fridays towards St Bart's Hospital The new times for all the above routes Are available in our journey planner tool at www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journeyI wonder if the additional journeys on the 59 are to make up for the loss of the 168 between Waterloo and Holborn or whether there is currently capacity issues on the 59s round the corner link to City Thameslink/St Barts? Yes, would be interesting to know. Would be much better to extend the 172 beyond Aldwych to make use of the capacity over Waterloo Bridge already available as I assume those buses are lightly loaded. |
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Post by WH241 on Sept 11, 2023 21:44:08 GMT
I wonder if the additional journeys on the 59 are to make up for the loss of the 168 between Waterloo and Holborn or whether there is currently capacity issues on the 59s round the corner link to City Thameslink/St Barts? Yes, would be interesting to know. Would be much better to extend the 172 beyond Aldwych to make use of the capacity over Waterloo Bridge already available as I assume those buses are lightly loaded. I imagine it is fairly cost effective to add a few journeys to the 59. I am assuming the capacity is needed as far as Holborn station unless the 59 is being used a lot than most expected on the new section. |
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Post by VMH2537 on Sept 11, 2023 21:55:07 GMT
Richmond Manor Circus Works from 9 September 2023
From Saturday 9 September changes to some routes occurred due to major roadworks taking place at Manor Circus roundabout in Richmond.
Due to these works some structural changes to route R68 and R70 have taken place.
Route R68 is currently running between Hampton Court Station and Twickenham, York Street only. Route R70 now runs between Hampton, Nurserylands and Kew Retail Park.
Route R68 continues to run every 15 minutes between Hampton Court and Twickenham, York Street. If you need to travel between Twickenham and Kew Retail Park, please change to the R70 at stop H, named York Street/Twickenham, to continue your journey.
Route R70 now runs every 12 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 20 minutes during the evenings and all day on Sundays and is temporarily extended to run between Richmond Manor Circus and Kew Retail Park via all the stops route R68 served.
During this phase of the works, route R70 will not serve bus stop SC outside Sainsbury's on Manor Road in Richmond. For travel to/from Sainsbury's, passengers should either alight on Lower Mortlake Road or use bus route 371 instead (interchange can be made at Richmond station in both directions).
These works are due to finish sometime in the spring of 2024.
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Post by VMH2537 on Sept 11, 2023 22:03:46 GMT
Changes to routes 218 & N266 at Hammersmith - 9 September 2023
From Saturday 9 September there will be a change to the pickup and set down points at Hammersmith Bus Station on routes 218 and N266.
Routes 218 and N266 will now pick up from bus stop B in the upper bus station at Hammersmith and no longer serve the lower bus station. Both routes will also set down at the alighting point in the upper bus station rather than the lower bus station.
This change is to provide a common bus stop at Hammersmith Bus Station for northbound buses on routes 218, 306 and N266.
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Post by DE20106 on Sept 11, 2023 22:49:18 GMT
Changes to routes 218 & N266 at Hammersmith - 9 September 2023 From Saturday 9 September there will be a change to the pickup and set down points at Hammersmith Bus Station on routes 218 and N266. Routes 218 and N266 will now pick up from bus stop B in the upper bus station at Hammersmith and no longer serve the lower bus station. Both routes will also set down at the alighting point in the upper bus station rather than the lower bus station. This change is to provide a common bus stop at Hammersmith Bus Station for northbound buses on routes 218, 306 and N266. Finally!! Very sensible and something that should have been done from the start |
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Post by COBO on Sept 11, 2023 23:00:02 GMT
Changes to routes 218 & N266 at Hammersmith - 9 September 2023 From Saturday 9 September there will be a change to the pickup and set down points at Hammersmith Bus Station on routes 218 and N266. Routes 218 and N266 will now pick up from bus stop B in the upper bus station at Hammersmith and no longer serve the lower bus station. Both routes will also set down at the alighting point in the upper bus station rather than the lower bus station. This change is to provide a common bus stop at Hammersmith Bus Station for northbound buses on routes 218, 306 and N266. Finally!! Very sensible and something that should have been done from the start I’ve been banging about this from the start it makes no sense to me to have both the 218 and 306 at separate bus stops at the bus station. |
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