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Post by londonbuses on Sept 15, 2023 15:02:29 GMT
In summary... Frequency increased: 107 Frequency reduced: 185, 450, P12 New operator: 346, 404, 450, C3
Temporary timetable introduced: 90, 110, 140, 297 Temporary timetable withdrawn: 39, 49, 170, 211, 414, 430 Times revised to reflect traffic levels: 51, 132, 165, 195, 252, 298, 299 Minor changes to times: 21, N21, 32, N32, 42, 189, 316, 346, 355, 404, 485, C3 Didn't expect that for the 107. Does this mean they are going to do something to make the 292 or the 384 worse? It's only an increase in the evening and on Sundays so I doubt the 292 or 384 are being changed. |
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Post by uakari on Sept 15, 2023 15:06:03 GMT
Didn't expect that for the 107. Does this mean they are going to do something to make the 292 or the 384 worse? It's only an increase in the evening and on Sundays so I doubt the 292 or 384 are being changed. I just know they're planning something bad. They wouldn't just give this frequency increase for free 😔 Or maybe the 384 has killed off the 614...I know it's got to be bad somehow. |
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Post by VMH2537 on Sept 15, 2023 15:37:05 GMT
Still no updates on removing the temporary timetable for the 125 despite the diversion ending ealier last week?
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Post by VWH1419 on Sept 15, 2023 15:41:17 GMT
Not used the 107/292 for a while now, but wonder if something changed mileage wise to justify those changes esp as landscape has changed traffic wise. 107 is also used very well for an commuter belt as many may think.
Not sure if I can predict 292 getting same treatment. Only used it few times but felt slow as in overtimed last I used it 5 months back.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 15, 2023 15:49:15 GMT
It's only an increase in the evening and on Sundays so I doubt the 292 or 384 are being changed. I just know they're planning something bad. They wouldn't just give this frequency increase for free 😔 Or maybe the 384 has killed off the 614...I know it's got to be bad somehow. That isn't how it always works though I fully understand the suspicion. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Sept 15, 2023 17:12:19 GMT
Didn't expect that for the 107. Does this mean they are going to do something to make the 292 or the 384 worse? It's only an increase in the evening and on Sundays so I doubt the 292 or 384 are being changed. Increased from x20mins Sunday daytimes and x30mins evenings. It may suggest that the fallout from ULEZ means that improvements to cross boundary bus routes are not impossible. |
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Post by uakari on Sept 15, 2023 19:22:00 GMT
It's only an increase in the evening and on Sundays so I doubt the 292 or 384 are being changed. Increased from x20mins Sunday daytimes and x30mins evenings. It may suggest that the fallout from ULEZ means that improvements to cross boundary bus routes are not impossible. Maybe so they can say look we are doing something for Zone 5/6 in the north and cross-boundary, to say to Barnet council in response to their comments on the X183 consultation and to try to counter the negative press they got over the 84 and 384 Vs the North Finchley bias. This change is nice but it's not something that anyone's particularly asked for afaik. It more benefits Borehamwood but I'm sure they'd prefer the 292 back at x12 than this. They can't increase the 384 frequency because they made a big deal about decreasing it three years before they withdrew it from a lot of the route, and they're all about saving their face(s). |
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Post by gwiwer on Sept 15, 2023 20:54:45 GMT
107 is fairly busy through the evening (and daytime but the daytime headway isn't changing) so maybe just a genuine recognition of that fact. It's an awkward one because it crosses into and out of Hertfordshire who have refused financial support but it seems to to OK without that.
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Post by evergreenadam on Sept 15, 2023 21:58:38 GMT
107 is fairly busy through the evening (and daytime but the daytime headway isn't changing) so maybe just a genuine recognition of that fact. It's an awkward one because it crosses into and out of Hertfordshire who have refused financial support but it seems to to OK without that. Good that it is busy in the evenings, especially for a route that currently only runs x30mins. |
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Post by YX10FFN on Sept 15, 2023 23:19:13 GMT
The whole Manor Circus saga has been a complete and utter shambles. The works were brought in at short notice after on-off consultation for the last 10 years. No information from the council and only information from TFL a week or two before the works commenced. The works are extremely intrusive, bringing the entire intersection down to one lane to cross it north-south and one lane east-west. Every route crossing Manor Circus, with the exception of the 110 given the Sandycoombe Road approach isn’t too bad most of the time, is almost unusable at the moment with works set to continue until next summer.
The traffic, as has been discussed, is horrific throughout the day. Sheen Road, Kew Road and surrounding rat runs are a mess aswell. And the poorly/barely signed changes to the R68 and R70 is the cherry on top!
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Post by evergreenadam on Sept 16, 2023 7:24:10 GMT
The whole Manor Circus saga has been a complete and utter shambles. The works were brought in at short notice after on-off consultation for the last 10 years. No information from the council and only information from TFL a week or two before the works commenced. The works are extremely intrusive, bringing the entire intersection down to one lane to cross it north-south and one lane east-west. Every route crossing Manor Circus, with the exception of the 110 given the Sandycoombe Road approach isn’t too bad most of the time, is almost unusable at the moment with works set to continue until next summer. The traffic, as has been discussed, is horrific throughout the day. Sheen Road, Kew Road and surrounding rat runs are a mess aswell. And the poorly/barely signed changes to the R68 and R70 is the cherry on top! The 110 is going to be reduced in frequency for the duration of the works too! |
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Sept 16, 2023 8:46:09 GMT
The whole Manor Circus saga has been a complete and utter shambles. The works were brought in at short notice after on-off consultation for the last 10 years. No information from the council and only information from TFL a week or two before the works commenced. The works are extremely intrusive, bringing the entire intersection down to one lane to cross it north-south and one lane east-west. Every route crossing Manor Circus, with the exception of the 110 given the Sandycoombe Road approach isn’t too bad most of the time, is almost unusable at the moment with works set to continue until next summer. The traffic, as has been discussed, is horrific throughout the day. Sheen Road, Kew Road and surrounding rat runs are a mess aswell. And the poorly/barely signed changes to the R68 and R70 is the cherry on top! Couldn't agree more. I've probably seen 10 371s curtailed to Richmond with three consecutive ones on Thursday curtailed to Richmond Hill, not serving Richmond town centre. I can't imagine what it'll be like with a rugby match on as well! |
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Post by commanderturtle on Sept 16, 2023 10:25:47 GMT
The whole Manor Circus saga has been a complete and utter shambles. The works were brought in at short notice after on-off consultation for the last 10 years. No information from the council and only information from TFL a week or two before the works commenced. The works are extremely intrusive, bringing the entire intersection down to one lane to cross it north-south and one lane east-west. Every route crossing Manor Circus, with the exception of the 110 given the Sandycoombe Road approach isn’t too bad most of the time, is almost unusable at the moment with works set to continue until next summer. The traffic, as has been discussed, is horrific throughout the day. Sheen Road, Kew Road and surrounding rat runs are a mess aswell. And the poorly/barely signed changes to the R68 and R70 is the cherry on top! Couldn't agree more. I've probably seen 10 371s curtailed to Richmond with three consecutive ones on Thursday curtailed to Richmond Hill, not serving Richmond town centre. I can't imagine what it'll be like with a rugby match on as well! Not to mention that trying to get a bus from Richmond that goes the full length, particularly at rush hour, has been quite the headache. Quite a few 190s only going to Chiswick Edensor Road, 419s only running to Barnes Bridge, and the likes. The gridlock traffic at peak times often runs all the way from Manor Circus, through the town centre and back to the Compass Hill area or further - you'd think TfL would see this coming, realising that closing large parts of a very well used intersection would cause major tailbacks, but apparently not! |
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Post by evergreenadam on Sept 16, 2023 11:06:58 GMT
Couldn't agree more. I've probably seen 10 371s curtailed to Richmond with three consecutive ones on Thursday curtailed to Richmond Hill, not serving Richmond town centre. I can't imagine what it'll be like with a rugby match on as well! Not to mention that trying to get a bus from Richmond that goes the full length, particularly at rush hour, has been quite the headache. Quite a few 190s only going to Chiswick Edensor Road, 419s only running to Barnes Bridge, and the likes. The gridlock traffic at peak times often runs all the way from Manor Circus, through the town centre and back to the Compass Hill area or further - you'd think TfL would see this coming, realising that closing large parts of a very well used intersection would cause major tailbacks, but apparently not! Saw a double deck 190 this morning at Hammersmith that had been curtailed to Chiswick Edensor Road. |
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on Sept 16, 2023 12:24:01 GMT
Changes to buses from Saturday 30 September: Route 355 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. Interesting that route 355 is getting a new timetable on 30th September. Is it moving to Camberwell on that date? |
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