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Post by evergreenadam on Sept 16, 2023 12:30:28 GMT
Any thoughts on the next batch of frequency reductions:
185, 450, P12
Has demand fallen? Would capacity be sufficient?
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Post by DT 11 on Sept 16, 2023 12:34:19 GMT
Any thoughts on the next batch of frequency reductions: 185, 450, P12 Has demand fallen? Would capacity be sufficient? 450 will be busier even though it is a two minute difference it will be noticeable. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2023 14:16:34 GMT
Changes to buses from Saturday 30 September: Route 355 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. Interesting that route 355 is getting a new timetable on 30th September. Is it moving to Camberwell on that date? Yes it was confirmed on the GAL thread about a week ago tangytango.proboards.com/post/769504/thread |
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Post by vjaska on Sept 16, 2023 15:14:44 GMT
Any thoughts on the next batch of frequency reductions: 185, 450, P12 Has demand fallen? Would capacity be sufficient? The 450 one is not helpful - it, like the nearby 410, is constrained by smaller single deckers that have busy passenger flows at many different times of the day. Haven’t used the other two routes in a while but they are busy in their own right, especially the P12 with its unique journeys |
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Post by greenboy on Sept 16, 2023 16:38:31 GMT
Any thoughts on the next batch of frequency reductions: 185, 450, P12 Has demand fallen? Would capacity be sufficient? I would think a x10min frequency should be ok for the 185, which does have support from other routes throughout. The 450 could be problems though, can be very busy between Croydon and Crystal Palace, less so on the Sydenham section which has support from the 122 and 202. From what I've seen of the P12 the current frequency is probably about right. |
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on Sept 16, 2023 19:25:34 GMT
September 30th is certainly going to be an interesting day for London bus scene. So many changes come into effect on that date. Effectively the second major date of changes after April 29th Central London Bus Changes. What route changes/operator changes are people on here going to focus on? I'm going to try out the route 1 extension to Hampstead Heath.
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 16, 2023 19:36:47 GMT
September 30th is certainly going to be an interesting day for London bus scene. So many changes come into effect on that date. Effectively the second major date of changes after April 29th Central London Bus Changes. What route changes/operator changes are people on here going to focus on? I'm going to try out the route 1 extension to Hampstead Heath. Same here the for the 1. Its been so long announced since the consultation with 2 weeks to go now. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2023 19:43:32 GMT
September 30th is certainly going to be an interesting day for London bus scene. So many changes come into effect on that date. Effectively the second major date of changes after April 29th Central London Bus Changes. What route changes/operator changes are people on here going to focus on? I'm going to try out the route 1 extension to Hampstead Heath. 355 will be interesting for a variety of reasons, first one being, will it eradicate the hybrid ADLs at C (ie EH15, 117 and 195). Another being what buses will stray onto the route seeing as Q have no compliant SDs, leading me to believe that the Ees could potentially stray, depending on the blinds in the hybrids at Q. |
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Post by abellion on Sept 16, 2023 19:49:28 GMT
September 30th is certainly going to be an interesting day for London bus scene. So many changes come into effect on that date. Effectively the second major date of changes after April 29th Central London Bus Changes. What route changes/operator changes are people on here going to focus on? I'm going to try out the route 1 extension to Hampstead Heath. 355 will be interesting for a variety of reasons, first one being, will it eradicate the hybrid ADLs at C (ie EH15, 117 and 195). Another being what buses will stray onto the route seeing as Q have no compliant SDs, leading me to believe that the Ees could potentially stray, depending on the blinds in the hybrids at Q. I hope to see MHVs come to Tooting and Mitcham again, I really like them on the 35  |
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Post by vjaska on Sept 16, 2023 20:46:57 GMT
September 30th is certainly going to be an interesting day for London bus scene. So many changes come into effect on that date. Effectively the second major date of changes after April 29th Central London Bus Changes. What route changes/operator changes are people on here going to focus on? I'm going to try out the route 1 extension to Hampstead Heath. 355 will be interesting for a variety of reasons, first one being, will it eradicate the hybrid ADLs at C (ie EH15, 117 and 195). Another being what buses will stray onto the route seeing as Q have no compliant SDs, leading me to believe that the Ees could potentially stray, depending on the blinds in the hybrids at Q. I wasn’t aware it was confirmed what 4 double deckers are moving with the 355 to Q? |
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Post by ADH45258 on Sept 16, 2023 20:57:25 GMT
355 will be interesting for a variety of reasons, first one being, will it eradicate the hybrid ADLs at C (ie EH15, 117 and 195). Another being what buses will stray onto the route seeing as Q have no compliant SDs, leading me to believe that the Ees could potentially stray, depending on the blinds in the hybrids at Q. I wasn’t aware it was confirmed what 4 double deckers are moving with the 355 to Q? I'm not sure it has been confirmed, but those EHs probably won't be needed at C anymore regardless. Perhaps Go Ahead might send some 65reg SEs to MB temporarily for the 358, allowing the 355 to take its full allocation of WSs to Q? |
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Post by vjaska on Sept 16, 2023 22:27:44 GMT
I wasn’t aware it was confirmed what 4 double deckers are moving with the 355 to Q? I'm not sure it has been confirmed, but those EHs probably won't be needed at C anymore regardless. Perhaps Go Ahead might send some 65reg SEs to MB temporarily for the 358, allowing the 355 to take its full allocation of WSs to Q? For all we know, C might retain the EH's for the 119 given the WHV's end up more often on the 355 so I'd rather wait for confirmation Why would Go-Ahead send 65 reg SE's to MB to allow the 355 WS's to return early? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2023 23:15:25 GMT
355 will be interesting for a variety of reasons, first one being, will it eradicate the hybrid ADLs at C (ie EH15, 117 and 195). Another being what buses will stray onto the route seeing as Q have no compliant SDs, leading me to believe that the Ees could potentially stray, depending on the blinds in the hybrids at Q. I wasn’t aware it was confirmed what 4 double deckers are moving with the 355 to Q? That's why I said 'will it' |
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Post by DE20106 on Sept 17, 2023 5:29:10 GMT
Any thoughts on the next batch of frequency reductions: 185, 450, P12 Has demand fallen? Would capacity be sufficient? I would think a x10min frequency should be ok for the 185, which does have support from other routes throughout. The 450 could be problems though, can be very busy between Croydon and Crystal Palace, less so on the Sydenham section which has support from the 122 and 202. From what I've seen of the P12 the current frequency is probably about right. I don’t think the 185 is dropping to every x10 is it? It’s only having a PVR cut from 25 to 23, so I would have thought that would be from x8 currently to x8-9. A cut to every x10 would lose a lot more than 2 vehicles I think |
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Post by greenboy on Sept 17, 2023 6:16:04 GMT
I would think a x10min frequency should be ok for the 185, which does have support from other routes throughout. The 450 could be problems though, can be very busy between Croydon and Crystal Palace, less so on the Sydenham section which has support from the 122 and 202. From what I've seen of the P12 the current frequency is probably about right. I don’t think the 185 is dropping to every x10 is it? It’s only having a PVR cut from 25 to 23, so I would have thought that would be from x8 currently to x8-9. A cut to every x10 would lose a lot more than 2 vehicles I think I thought I read somewhere that it was being reduced to x10 minutes? I might be wrong though. |
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