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Post by MKAY315 on Nov 20, 2023 14:45:27 GMT
Even though some have said the W3 will be getting the buses from the 78 is there enough buses from that route to convert it to hybrids or will it need some from the southern garages to complete it? Nope, a few more will needed to be poached even if the W3's cut to 19 happens as there is 18 at AE on the 78 so another 2-3 is needed at least. I imagine HA20 will return to TH from AE once the 78 is lost as well. I thought as much as the city hybrids are very tight allocation wise. I know the 198 took some from 133/333 for it's contract last year |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 21, 2023 0:09:30 GMT
A few upcoming changes keep forgetting to postROUTE W3 SATURDAY 14 10 23ALLOCATION - WOOD GREEN 18 BUSES REASON FOR CHANGE - NEW SERVICE TENDER ROUTE W3 SUNDAYALLOCATION - WOOD GREEN 13 BUSES ROUTE W3 MON, TUES, WED & THURSDAYALLOCATION - WOOD GREEN 21 BUSES ROUTE W3 FRIDAY ONLYALLOCATION - WOOD GREEN 21 BUSES So it looks like the W3 isn’t getting a PVR cut to 19 after all then No it did not, it retained the same pvr and headway, a few trips have been changed. |
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Post by Leccy86Hybrid on Nov 22, 2023 10:59:20 GMT
Changes to buses from Saturday 2 December The following timetable changes will take place from Saturday 2 December. Route 72 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. Route 78 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. Route 78 will be operated by Go Ahead London from this date. Route 96 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. Route 107 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. Route 152 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. Route 157 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. Route 157 will be operated by Go Ahead London from this date. Route 321 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. The schoolday only journey at 1458 from Eltham Hill College for Girls towards New Cross Gate is withdrawn. Route 381 will have a new timetable from this date. Buses will be revised to run every 12 minutes at all times on all days of the week except before 0630 on Monday to Fridays and 0830 on Saturdays when buses will run every 15 minutes and on Sundays before 0930 when buses will run every 20 minutes. A temporary timetable will be introduced on route 414 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 8-9 minutes between 1000 and 1930 and every 12-13 minutes between 1930 and 2300 on Monday to Fridays only. There is no change to the service outside of these times. This temporary timetable will give buses more time to complete journeys during increased traffic levels in the Hyde Park area during Winter Wonderland. A temporary timetable will be introduced on route 452 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 12-13 minutes between 1100 and 1400 on Monday to Fridays, 1300 and 2300 on Saturdays and 1300 and 2000 on Sundays. On Monday to Fridays between 1400 and 2300 on Monday to Fridays the frequency will be widened to every 13 minutes. There is no change to the service outside of these times. This temporary timetable will give buses more time to complete journeys during increased traffic levels in the Hyde Park area during Winter Wonderland. Route D7 will have a new timetable from this date. Buses will be revised to run every 12 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 15 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. Route N72 will have a new timetable on all nights of the week with minor changes to times. Route N381 will have a new timetable on all nights of the week with minor changes to times. The new times for all the above routes will be available in our journey planner tool at www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey |
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Post by enviroPB on Nov 22, 2023 12:52:19 GMT
Ten years ago, buses on the Bankside used to be bustling on the 381 and the RV1 with its 10 minute frequency on all days. Then the Thameslink upgrade works at London Bridge pretty much killed the RV1 and the disruption drove people off the 381. Total shame the 381 is dropping to 5bph for most of the day, with TfL relying on the 1, 78 and C10 to pick up the slack. TfL are also relying on passengers walking along the South Bank to alleviate the 381's new frequency.
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 22, 2023 13:05:11 GMT
Ten years ago, buses on the Bankside used to be bustling on the 381 and the RV1 with its 10 minute frequency on all days. Then the Thameslink upgrade works at London Bridge pretty much killed the RV1 and the disruption drove people off the 381. Total shame the 381 is dropping to 5bph for most of the day, with TfL relying on the 1, 78 and C10 to pick up the slack. TfL are also relying on passengers walking along the South Bank to alleviate the 381's new frequency. If the route isn't exactly busting every 10 mins then the a 12 mins service will probably be sufficient for demand along Bankside. Probably improvements to the Jubilee line have taken demand away aswell. |
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Post by M1104 on Nov 22, 2023 13:09:21 GMT
Changes to buses from Saturday 2 December The following timetable changes will take place from Saturday 2 December. Route 152 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. Also the first day of its new SEe spec'd contract (newbies to be introduced from a later date) |
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Post by enviroPB on Nov 22, 2023 14:28:16 GMT
Ten years ago, buses on the Bankside used to be bustling on the 381 and the RV1 with its 10 minute frequency on all days. Then the Thameslink upgrade works at London Bridge pretty much killed the RV1 and the disruption drove people off the 381. Total shame the 381 is dropping to 5bph for most of the day, with TfL relying on the 1, 78 and C10 to pick up the slack. TfL are also relying on passengers walking along the South Bank to alleviate the 381's new frequency. If the route isn't exactly busting every 10 mins then the a 12 mins service will probably be sufficient for demand along Bankside. Probably improvements to the Jubilee line have taken demand away aswell. It isn't bustling because of the horrid traffic delays the 381 has faced. Cycle works have ruined traffic light phasing at Blackfriars Road and Tower Bridge Road, and buses can lose up to 10 mins eastbound at each junction. There's also the junction of Southwark Street/Borough High Street which is still reduced to one lane. Things within TfL's control (all junctions mentioned are red routes) have hampered the 381 for the best part of a decade. We can't always say Tube improvements are the demise of bus patronage, especially in central London where short hop trips by train are often completed quicker by bus. But hey, why bother making buses in central more reliable when a single zone 1 trip cost almost double that of a bus trip? |
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 22, 2023 16:55:42 GMT
If the route isn't exactly busting every 10 mins then the a 12 mins service will probably be sufficient for demand along Bankside. Probably improvements to the Jubilee line have taken demand away aswell. It isn't bustling because of the horrid traffic delays the 381 has faced. Cycle works have ruined traffic light phasing at Blackfriars Road and Tower Bridge Road, and buses can lose up to 10 mins eastbound at each junction. There's also the junction of Southwark Street/Borough High Street which is still reduced to one lane. Things within TfL's control (all junctions mentioned are red routes) have hampered the 381 for the best part of a decade. We can't always say Tube improvements are the demise of bus patronage, especially in central London where short hop trips by train are often completed quicker by bus. But hey, why bother making buses in central more reliable when a single zone 1 trip cost almost double that of a bus trip? I would certainly say off peak there would be an element of that in order to make use of spare capacity on the tube. I'd imagine that's partly why the freedom pass has survived on the tube/train so long as it effectively get people on a high freq service when demand is lower. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Nov 25, 2023 19:05:51 GMT
LOTS are reporting that the rerouting of routes 77 and 211 has been postponed until next year. I noticed that too. I am now less disappointed to have gone to Battersea Power Station last month. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 25, 2023 20:13:22 GMT
LOTS are reporting that the rerouting of routes 77 and 211 has been postponed until next year. I noticed that too. I am now less disappointed to have gone to Battersea Power Station last month. Whilst the 211 re route wasnt necessarly to replace anything, the 77 was re route was partly in compensation for the loss of the 507 to Lambeth Bridge which has long gone ahead now. |
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Post by justjxck1994 on Nov 29, 2023 7:35:53 GMT
Extension of route 316 to Brent Cross West Station - 10 December 2023
From Sunday 10 December route 316 will be extended from Cricklewood Bus Garage to Brent Cross West Station.
Route 316 will run beyond Cricklewood Bus Garage via Edgware Road and Geron Way to terminate opposite the western entrance to the new Brent Cross West national rail station.
Route 316 will continue to run every 8 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 12 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays.
Times of first buses will be 0515 from White City Bus Station and 0508 (0503 on Sundays) from Brent Cross West Station
Times of last buses will be 0009 from White City Bus Station and 2400 from Brent Cross West Station
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Post by mondraker275 on Nov 29, 2023 8:57:33 GMT
Extension of route 316 to Brent Cross West Station - 10 December 2023 From Sunday 10 December route 316 will be extended from Cricklewood Bus Garage to Brent Cross West Station. Route 316 will run beyond Cricklewood Bus Garage via Edgware Road and Geron Way to terminate opposite the western entrance to the new Brent Cross West national rail station. Route 316 will continue to run every 8 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 12 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. Times of first buses will be 0515 from White City Bus Station and 0508 (0503 on Sundays) from Brent Cross West Station Times of last buses will be 0009 from White City Bus Station and 2400 from Brent Cross West Station Rare Sunday bus change. |
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Post by VMH2537 on Nov 29, 2023 10:57:11 GMT
Changes to buses from Saturday 9 December The following changes will take place from Saturday 9 December. Route 34 will have a new timetable from this date. Buses will be revised to run every 10 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 12 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. Also, from this date route 34 will now set down passengers at bus stop X on Selborne Road instead of inside Walthamstow Central Bus Station. No change to the pick-up stop towards Barnet. The temporary timetable on route 187 will be removed with the frequency of the service restored to run every 15 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 20 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. The temporary timetable on 24 hour route 220 will be removed with the frequency of the service restored to run every 6-7 minutes during the AM & PM peak on Monday to Fridays, every 8 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Fridays, every 7-8 minutes during the daytime on Saturdays, every 10 minutes during the daytime on Sundays and every 12 minutes during the evening on all days. Route 220 will continue to run every 30 minutes throughout the night on all nights of the week. The temporary timetable on route 260 will be removed with the frequency of the service restored to run every 12 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 15 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. The temporary timetable on route 266 will be removed with the frequency of the service restored to run every 8 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays, every 10 minutes during the daytime on Sundays and every 12 minutes during the evening on all days. The temporary timetable on 24 hour route 297 will be removed with the frequency of the service restored to run every 12 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 15 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. Route 297 will continue to run every 30 minutes throughout the night on all nights of the week. The new times for all the above routes will be available in our journey planner tool at www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey |
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Post by justjxck1994 on Nov 29, 2023 11:25:56 GMT
Extension of route 316 to Brent Cross West Station - 10 December 2023 From Sunday 10 December route 316 will be extended from Cricklewood Bus Garage to Brent Cross West Station. Route 316 will run beyond Cricklewood Bus Garage via Edgware Road and Geron Way to terminate opposite the western entrance to the new Brent Cross West national rail station. Route 316 will continue to run every 8 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 12 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. Times of first buses will be 0515 from White City Bus Station and 0508 (0503 on Sundays) from Brent Cross West Station Times of last buses will be 0009 from White City Bus Station and 2400 from Brent Cross West Station Rare Sunday bus change. Station opens on Sunday, so no point sending the buses there before |
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Post by evergreenadam on Nov 29, 2023 12:24:41 GMT
Changes to buses from Saturday 9 December The following changes will take place from Saturday 9 December. Route 34 will have a new timetable from this date. Buses will be revised to run every 10 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 12 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. Also, from this date route 34 will now set down passengers at bus stop X on Selborne Road instead of inside Walthamstow Central Bus Station. No change to the pick-up stop towards Barnet. The temporary timetable on route 187 will be removed with the frequency of the service restored to run every 15 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 20 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. The temporary timetable on 24 hour route 220 will be removed with the frequency of the service restored to run every 6-7 minutes during the AM & PM peak on Monday to Fridays, every 8 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Fridays, every 7-8 minutes during the daytime on Saturdays, every 10 minutes during the daytime on Sundays and every 12 minutes during the evening on all days. Route 220 will continue to run every 30 minutes throughout the night on all nights of the week. The temporary timetable on route 260 will be removed with the frequency of the service restored to run every 12 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 15 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. The temporary timetable on route 266 will be removed with the frequency of the service restored to run every 8 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays, every 10 minutes during the daytime on Sundays and every 12 minutes during the evening on all days. The temporary timetable on 24 hour route 297 will be removed with the frequency of the service restored to run every 12 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 15 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. Route 297 will continue to run every 30 minutes throughout the night on all nights of the week. The new times for all the above routes will be available in our journey planner tool at www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey34 frequency reduction to coincide with introduction of route SL1, which will probably have its own entry on the TfL bus service change page in due course. |
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