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Post by Nathan on Oct 16, 2014 22:56:37 GMT
This is just a thread to focus more on the discussion about what the letters in prefixed routes actually stand for. As I already mentioned on another thread, I think the letter in the following routes represent: - Chelsea - C1, C3, C10 - Camden - C2, C11 I know snoggle suggested some other ideas, but does anyone else have any idea? And also, what's the abbreviation for the T[31|32|33] routes?
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Post by DT 11 on Oct 16, 2014 23:02:32 GMT
A - Airport B - Bexleyheath C - Camden, Central, Chelsea D - Docklands E - Ealing EL - East London Transit G - George's Hospital H - Harrow, Hounslow, Heathrow, Hendon K - Kingston P - Peckham R - Richmond, Roundabout RV - Riverside S - Sutton T - Tramlink U - Uxbridge W - Waltham Forest X - Express
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Post by vjaska on Oct 16, 2014 23:05:58 GMT
EL = East London M = Millenium when the M1 & M2 were around
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Post by LX09FBJ on Oct 16, 2014 23:23:05 GMT
B also used to mean Bromley (e.g. B1)
And the fairly obvious and easy one- N- Night Bus
What does Roundabout refer to in terms of the Orpington locals?
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Post by rmz19 on Oct 16, 2014 23:23:43 GMT
A - Airport B - Bexleyheath C - Camden, Central, Chelsea D - Docklands E - Ealing EL - East London Transit G - George's Hospital H - Harrow, Hounslow, Heathrow, Hendon K - Kingston P - Peckham R - Richmond, Roundabout RV - Riverside S - Sutton T - Tramlink U - Uxbridge W - Waltham Forest X - Express Regarding the R routes in the Orpington area, does 'Roundabout' mean they have a loop section within the route?, because the only ones that do are R2 (tiny loop), R8 (small loop), and R5/R10 (massive loop).
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Post by Nathan on Oct 16, 2014 23:36:02 GMT
A - Airport B - Bexleyheath C - Camden, Central, Chelsea D - Docklands E - Ealing EL - East London Transit G - George's Hospital H - Harrow, Hounslow, Heathrow, Hendon K - Kingston P - Peckham R - Richmond, Roundabout RV - Riverside S - Sutton T - Tramlink U - Uxbridge W - Waltham Forest X - Express Regarding the R routes in the Orpington area, does 'Roundabout' mean they have a loop section within the route?, because the only ones that do are R2 (tiny loop), R8 (small loop), and R5/R10 (massive loop). I think the R3 has a loop somewhere too. Can't quite remember.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 16, 2014 23:47:46 GMT
A - Airport B - Bexleyheath C - Camden, Central, Chelsea D - Docklands E - Ealing EL - East London Transit G - George's Hospital H - Harrow, Hounslow, Heathrow, Hendon K - Kingston P - Peckham R - Richmond, Roundabout RV - Riverside S - Sutton T - Tramlink U - Uxbridge W - Waltham Forest X - Express Regarding the R routes in the Orpington area, does 'Roundabout' mean they have a loop section within the route?, because the only ones that do are R2 (tiny loop), R8 (small loop), and R5/R10 (massive loop). 'Roundabout' stands for 'Roundabout Buses' which many, if not, all of the R's routes were originally operated by.
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Post by Mokujin on Oct 16, 2014 23:52:32 GMT
Regarding the R routes in the Orpington area, does 'Roundabout' mean they have a loop section within the route?, because the only ones that do are R2 (tiny loop), R8 (small loop), and R5/R10 (massive loop). I think the R3 has a loop somewhere too. Can't quite remember. I think the R3 loop is around the Chelsfield Village terminus. There's also a loop around Coppice Estate in Petts Wood I believe.
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Post by snoggle on Oct 16, 2014 23:55:32 GMT
A - Airport B - Bexleyheath C - Camden, Central, Chelsea D - Docklands E - Ealing EL - East London Transit G - George's Hospital H - Harrow, Hounslow, Heathrow, Hendon K - Kingston P - Peckham R - Richmond, Roundabout RV - Riverside S - Sutton T - Tramlink U - Uxbridge W - Waltham Forest X - Express Err "W" has to be treated with care. Originally it was Wood Green given the original W routes from 1968 but we did have the W21 in Walthamstow. Even with the later minibus schemes you still have "W" routes in and around Haringey (W4, W5 and W6) while Walthamstow and Woodford got W11-W17. Goodness knows what the "W" for the W10 to Crews Hill refers to!! "S" was originally Stratford with the S1 and S2 which are only fairly recent casualties of renumberings / route changes. Roundabout was simply a local identity to raise the profile of local services in and around Orpington so as to try to encourage patronage on what was an area with a very mixed history of operators, services and frequencies. Other far more knowledgeable group members could give chapter and verse. While "D" is for Docklands the extent of the "D" network has changed vastly over the years and it reached to Ilford and Barking plus we had the private "D" Docklands Minibus routes. "C" applied to a network of Croydon area services to the Addington area. "H" originally referred to Hampstead for the H1/H2/H3 serving Hampstead Garden Suburb. "M" referred to the M1 route in the Morden area. It is really worth looking at the historical London Bus routes site run by Ian Armstrong
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Post by Green Kitten on Oct 17, 2014 0:01:08 GMT
A - Airport B - Bexleyheath C - Camden, Central, Chelsea D - Docklands E - Ealing EL - East London Transit G - George's Hospital H - Harrow, Hounslow, Heathrow, Hendon K - Kingston P - Peckham R - Richmond, Roundabout RV - Riverside S - Sutton T - Tramlink U - Uxbridge W - Waltham Forest X - Express Err "W" has to be treated with care. Originally it was Wood Green given the original W routes from 1968 but we did have the W21 in Walthamstow. Even with the later minibus schemes you still have "W" routes in and around Haringey (W4, W5 and W6) while Walthamstow and Woodford got W11-W17. Goodness knows what the "W" for the W10 to Crews Hill refers to!!"S" was originally Stratford with the S1 and S2 which are only fairly recent casualties of renumberings / route changes. Roundabout was simply a local identity to raise the profile of local services in and around Orpington so as to try to encourage patronage on what was an area with a very mixed history of operators, services and frequencies. Other far more knowledgeable group members could give chapter and verse. While "D" is for Docklands the extent of the "D" network has changed vastly over the years and it reached to Ilford and Barking plus we had the private "D" Docklands Minibus routes. "C" applied to a network of Croydon area services to the Addington area. "H" originally referred to Hampstead for the H1/H2/H3 serving Hampstead Garden Suburb. "M" referred to the M1 route in the Morden area. It is really worth looking at the historical London Bus routes site run by Ian Armstrong' Willow Road', of course!
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Post by danorak on Oct 17, 2014 0:12:49 GMT
A - Airport B - Bexleyheath C - Camden, Central, Chelsea D - Docklands E - Ealing EL - East London Transit G - George's Hospital H - Harrow, Hounslow, Heathrow, Hendon K - Kingston P - Peckham R - Richmond, Roundabout RV - Riverside S - Sutton T - Tramlink U - Uxbridge W - Waltham Forest X - Express Err "W" has to be treated with care. Originally it was Wood Green given the original W routes from 1968 but we did have the W21 in Walthamstow. Even with the later minibus schemes you still have "W" routes in and around Haringey (W4, W5 and W6) while Walthamstow and Woodford got W11-W17. Goodness knows what the "W" for the W10 to Crews Hill refers to!! "S" was originally Stratford with the S1 and S2 which are only fairly recent casualties of renumberings / route changes. Roundabout was simply a local identity to raise the profile of local services in and around Orpington so as to try to encourage patronage on what was an area with a very mixed history of operators, services and frequencies. Other far more knowledgeable group members could give chapter and verse. While "D" is for Docklands the extent of the "D" network has changed vastly over the years and it reached to Ilford and Barking plus we had the private "D" Docklands Minibus routes. "C" applied to a network of Croydon area services to the Addington area. "H" originally referred to Hampstead for the H1/H2/H3 serving Hampstead Garden Suburb. "M" referred to the M1 route in the Morden area. It is really worth looking at the historical London Bus routes site run by Ian ArmstrongB was also for Barking at one stage in the early 90s. I always assumed the W10 just took its prefix from the nearby W8 and W9. We've also had L for Lewisham. The long out of print Reshaping London's Buses by Mike Harris and Barry Arnold contains details of proposed prefix routes from the late 60s/early 70s - one that springs to mind is a network of J routes centred on Woolwich!
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Post by vjaska on Oct 17, 2014 0:13:59 GMT
A - Airport B - Bexleyheath C - Camden, Central, Chelsea D - Docklands E - Ealing EL - East London Transit G - George's Hospital H - Harrow, Hounslow, Heathrow, Hendon K - Kingston P - Peckham R - Richmond, Roundabout RV - Riverside S - Sutton T - Tramlink U - Uxbridge W - Waltham Forest X - Express Err "W" has to be treated with care. Originally it was Wood Green given the original W routes from 1968 but we did have the W21 in Walthamstow. Even with the later minibus schemes you still have "W" routes in and around Haringey (W4, W5 and W6) while Walthamstow and Woodford got W11-W17. Goodness knows what the "W" for the W10 to Crews Hill refers to!! "S" was originally Stratford with the S1 and S2 which are only fairly recent casualties of renumberings / route changes. Roundabout was simply a local identity to raise the profile of local services in and around Orpington so as to try to encourage patronage on what was an area with a very mixed history of operators, services and frequencies. Other far more knowledgeable group members could give chapter and verse. While "D" is for Docklands the extent of the "D" network has changed vastly over the years and it reached to Ilford and Barking plus we had the private "D" Docklands Minibus routes. "C" applied to a network of Croydon area services to the Addington area. "H" originally referred to Hampstead for the H1/H2/H3 serving Hampstead Garden Suburb. "M" referred to the M1 route in the Morden area. It is really worth looking at the historical London Bus routes site run by Ian ArmstrongThe S in S11 and S13 stood for Sainsbury's as both routes terminated at East Dulwich, Sainsbury's.
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Post by RM5chris on Oct 17, 2014 8:59:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 9:03:33 GMT
Z - Zoo
NX - night express
T - terminals ( T4 & T123 )
PB - Potters Bar
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 9:04:31 GMT
SL - Stationlink
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