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Post by rmz19 on Dec 6, 2014 22:49:04 GMT
But the 36 & P13 do not go to New Cross Gate Station either. So passengers may still be annoyed when they find out it doesn't go there. But like you mentioned, the 36 is lightly used between Peckham and NX as there are many other buses going the same way and beyond. You do realise that Brockley Rise is the road where the 172 & P12 terminate. And Honor Oak Park is the road which the station is on as well as where the P4 & P12 travel on. I used to think that the blinds (and iBus) should say 'Brockley Rise' for the P12 bus I guess HOP actually works for this route seeing as it terminates only 1 stop after the station. But Brockley Rise is still more accurate. But overall for accuracy, blinds for all routes terminating there should say 'Honor Oak, Brockley Rise' If someone gets on a 36 or P13 finds out it does not go to New Cross Gate Station then tough lol, the blind does not actually display "New Cross Gate Station" if that was displayed I would agree with you, hardly a long walk on a straight road burn some calories.... I agree, the 36 blinds state New Cross Gate which is the name of the area not the station, besides the station is very close to the actual bus stop itself. The P13 actually passes closer to the station than the 36 does, but this doesn't mean anything as the alighting points are either the 36 terminus or Sainsbury's . The 36 is actually well used between Peckham and New Cross Gate, most passengers use the 36 well beyond Peckham to get to New Cross Gate apart from the 436.
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Post by DT 11 on Dec 6, 2014 22:55:13 GMT
Brixton to return back to Brixton Station - Brixton is more than the town centre so why be so vague! West Norwood to return back to Norwood, Bus Garage or Norwood Garage - the 2 terminates right outside it so no need to change it. 432's that turn short also terminate there too. Croydon Town Centre to return to the following: Croydon, Park Street for the 109 Croydon, Fairfield Halls for the 75 & 250 Croydon, Flyover for the 50 Croydon, Katherine Street for the 197 & 264 I really hate vague blinds!!! I think Croydon Town Centre is better and not really that vague at all, they all stand somewhere in Croydon Town Centre as Croydon is quite big. In addition 4 of these routes the 1st & last stops are in two different places in Croydon. The 109 pretty much stands at the back of Croydon Town Centre so I see nothing wrong with it Showing Croydon Town Centre The 250 does not start from Fairfield Halls, but finishes there, the first stop is Croydon Library so 250 to Croydon Town Centre makes sense. The 75 wont make much difference tbh but Croydon Town Centre is better than Fairfield Halls. The 50, 197 & 264 actually all finish at Croydon Flyover, which is in Croydon Town Centre. The 264 starts from Katherine Street, displaying it coming into Croydon would be misleading as the last stop is Croydon Flyover.
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Post by vjaska on Dec 6, 2014 23:04:49 GMT
Brixton to return back to Brixton Station - Brixton is more than the town centre so why be so vague! West Norwood to return back to Norwood, Bus Garage or Norwood Garage - the 2 terminates right outside it so no need to change it. 432's that turn short also terminate there too. Croydon Town Centre to return to the following: Croydon, Park Street for the 109 Croydon, Fairfield Halls for the 75 & 250 Croydon, Flyover for the 50 Croydon, Katherine Street for the 197 & 264 I really hate vague blinds!!! I think Croydon Town Centre for them all, is better and not really vague all they all stand somewhere in Croydon Town Centre as Croydon is quite big. The 109 pretty much stands at the back of Croydon Town Centre so I see nothing wrong with it Showing Croydon Town Centre The 250 does not start from Fairfield Halls, the first stop is Croydon Library so 250 to Croydon Town Centre makes sense. The 75 wont make much difference tbh but Croydon Town Centre is better than Fairfield Halls. The 50, 197 & 264 actually all finish at Croydon Flyover, which is in Croydon Town Centre. Croydon Town Centre is vague because it could mean anywhere within the town centre and the town centre is big. Anyone who wants Fairfield Halls might not know that only the 75 & 250 terminate there. Also, the 250's first stop has nothing to do with where it terminates - the 250's alighting point is Fairfield Halls which is why it had the blind before. Same as the 75.
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Post by COBO on Dec 6, 2014 23:15:46 GMT
Harrow > Harrow Bus Station or in the case of route 395 Harrow St George's Centre
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Post by DT 11 on Dec 6, 2014 23:16:22 GMT
I think Croydon Town Centre for them all, is better and not really vague all they all stand somewhere in Croydon Town Centre as Croydon is quite big. The 109 pretty much stands at the back of Croydon Town Centre so I see nothing wrong with it Showing Croydon Town Centre The 250 does not start from Fairfield Halls, the first stop is Croydon Library so 250 to Croydon Town Centre makes sense. The 75 wont make much difference tbh but Croydon Town Centre is better than Fairfield Halls. The 50, 197 & 264 actually all finish at Croydon Flyover, which is in Croydon Town Centre. Croydon Town Centre is vague because it could mean anywhere within the town centre and the town centre is big. Anyone who wants Fairfield Halls might not know that only the 75 & 250 terminate there. Also, the 250's first stop has nothing to do with where it terminates - the 250's alighting point is Fairfield Halls which is why it had the blind before. Same as the 75. Whilst I agree with some of this I disagree. Croydon Town Centre might be anywhere within the Town Centre but Croydon alone is larger and could be... ...We have East Croydon West Croydon South Croydon These 5 Routes terminate in the heart of Croydon & 4 of them start and finish from different stops. If I had never been to Croydon and I boarded a 250 showing "Croydon, Fairfield Halls" I would immediately ask where in Croydon does this bus go. It could be in South Croydon, East or West Croydon. Croydon Town Centre would immediately inform an unfamiliar bus user this bus goes to the Town Centre of Croydon. Same with West Croydon & East Croydon & South Croydon, South End. Croydon, Park Street means nothing, Croydon, Flyover Means nothing & same with Croydon, Katherine Street
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Post by rmz19 on Dec 7, 2014 0:47:02 GMT
The 119 terminus name Purley Way-Colonnades should instead be Waddon-Colonnades or South Waddon. Even though the terminus is by Purley Way I think they seem as more accurate terminus names, plus it's situated south of Waddon so it's geographically correct.
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Post by COBO on Dec 7, 2014 1:08:09 GMT
St Raphael's North > Brent Park Ikea Brent Park Superstores > Brent Park Tesco
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Post by vjaska on Dec 7, 2014 1:32:17 GMT
The 119 terminus name Purley Way-Colonnades should instead be Waddon-Colonnades or South Waddon. Even though the terminus is by Purley Way I think they seem as more accurate terminus names, plus it's situated south of Waddon so it's geographically correct. Yes but Purley Way, Colonnades is also accurate and is much more well known so personally, I'd leave it as it is.
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Post by COBO on Dec 7, 2014 5:15:53 GMT
Northolt Park > Wood End Lane Feltham > Feltham Leisure West
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Post by rmz19 on Dec 7, 2014 10:12:03 GMT
The 119 terminus name Purley Way-Colonnades should instead be Waddon-Colonnades or South Waddon. Even though the terminus is by Purley Way I think they seem as more accurate terminus names, plus it's situated south of Waddon so it's geographically correct. Yes but Purley Way, Colonnades is also accurate and is much more well known so personally, I'd leave it as it is. I assumed the terminus was actually in Purley as I was unfamiliar with where Purley way, Colonnades was, then I was puzzled when I found out it was nowhere near there. But if it's well known to others in general then fair enough.
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Post by COBO on Dec 7, 2014 10:29:47 GMT
Acton High Street > Acton Town Hall (for the 427) and Acton Horn Lane (for the 70) East Acton > East Acton Brunel Road
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Post by sid on Dec 7, 2014 14:40:13 GMT
Random idea I just thought of now. Here's a few of my ideas of which turns should be renamed: - New Cross Gate > New Cross, Bus Garage (buses heading towards Peckham/Old Kent Road would still retain the New Cross Gate turn as they terminate at the station) - New Cross Gate > New Cross, Sainsbury's (for the 321) - Bellingham, Catford Bus Garage > Catford, Bus Garage (there is simply no need for the 'Bellingham' part. - Penge > Penge, Croydon Road ('Penge' is simply not detailed enough. WHERE in Pence does this 176 take me??) I'll think of some more later... I totally disagree with you about Bellingham, that's where the garage is not in Catford town centre
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 14:43:23 GMT
Random idea I just thought of now. Here's a few of my ideas of which turns should be renamed: - New Cross Gate > New Cross, Bus Garage (buses heading towards Peckham/Old Kent Road would still retain the New Cross Gate turn as they terminate at the station) - New Cross Gate > New Cross, Sainsbury's (for the 321) - Bellingham, Catford Bus Garage > Catford, Bus Garage (there is simply no need for the 'Bellingham' part. - Penge > Penge, Croydon Road ('Penge' is simply not detailed enough. WHERE in Pence does this 176 take me??) I'll think of some more later... I totally disagree with you about Bellingham, that's where the garage is not in Catford town centre Particularly important from the Bromley direction as it would give the impression it was going to reach Catford when it actually would stop well short.
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Post by vjaska on Dec 7, 2014 15:15:40 GMT
Random idea I just thought of now. Here's a few of my ideas of which turns should be renamed: - New Cross Gate > New Cross, Bus Garage (buses heading towards Peckham/Old Kent Road would still retain the New Cross Gate turn as they terminate at the station) - New Cross Gate > New Cross, Sainsbury's (for the 321) - Bellingham, Catford Bus Garage > Catford, Bus Garage (there is simply no need for the 'Bellingham' part. - Penge > Penge, Croydon Road ('Penge' is simply not detailed enough. WHERE in Pence does this 176 take me??) I'll think of some more later... I totally disagree with you about Bellingham, that's where the garage is not in Catford town centre Indeed, it would be like renaming Streatham Hill, Telford Avenue as Brixton Garage despite it not being in Brixton or even Brixton Hill.
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Post by DT 11 on Dec 7, 2014 18:00:57 GMT
99 to Northend Road.... When i first saw this turn I thought of the 89 - 1st Question would be where is Northend Road...
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