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Post by vjaska on Dec 8, 2014 11:13:52 GMT
Kingston > Kingston Cromwell Road Bus StationKingston > Kingston Fairfield Bus StationKingston > Kingston Brook StreetKingston > Kingston Kingston Hall Road Sudbury Town > Sudbury (for route 92) Whilst I partly agree with this I disagree, the whole of Kingston is an annoying one way system and Imo all the blinds displaying one simple thing is better than having 4 different displays to confuse people. Brook Street of all places does not need to be identified as it is in the Town Centre... So 65 to Kingston is right, Fairfield Bus Station is just by the Town Centre and all buses to Cromwell Road serve the Town Centre. "Kingston" or even "Kingston Town Centre" is a better display for all routes as in a way all bus routes circulate Kingston in a way. I don't think there is need to have a separate blind for each stand simply because Kingston can be confusing for new people it took me at least a month to get used to the entire area on foot and travel wise whilst down there a lot. The problem with that though is then, you expect everything that shows Kingston or Kingston Town Centre to terminate in the same place when we know they don't. The only place where I can think that keeping 'Town Centre' as its blind is fine is in Hornchurch as the main stand in Hornchurch is in the town centre (there is another stand on a side road but it isn't as used compared to the 252 & 372's stand.
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Post by DT 11 on Dec 8, 2014 11:48:07 GMT
Whilst I partly agree with this I disagree, the whole of Kingston is an annoying one way system and Imo all the blinds displaying one simple thing is better than having 4 different displays to confuse people. Brook Street of all places does not need to be identified as it is in the Town Centre... So 65 to Kingston is right, Fairfield Bus Station is just by the Town Centre and all buses to Cromwell Road serve the Town Centre. "Kingston" or even "Kingston Town Centre" is a better display for all routes as in a way all bus routes circulate Kingston in a way. I don't think there is need to have a separate blind for each stand simply because Kingston can be confusing for new people it took me at least a month to get used to the entire area on foot and travel wise whilst down there a lot. The problem with that though is then, you expect everything that shows Kingston or Kingston Town Centre to terminate in the same place when we know they don't. The only place where I can think that keeping 'Town Centre' as its blind is fine is in Hornchurch as the main stand in Hornchurch is in the town centre (there is another stand on a side road but it isn't as used compared to the 252 & 372's stand. Well not really tbh, just because a blind displays Croydon, Town Centre does not actually mean all routes displaying this finish at the same place. It is very simple display informing people this bus goes to the town centre The bus routes in Kingston all serve a part of Kingston Town Centre. I disagree It works fine for Croydon & Catford displaying Croydon Town Centre & Catford Town Centre for curtailments.
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Post by Nathan on Dec 8, 2014 12:41:25 GMT
381 Waterloo > Waterloo, County Hall The 341 and 381 terminate at the same place. So why have two different terminus names? Hayes & Harlington > Hayes & Harlington Station - If I didn't live in this area, If I saw this display, I'd assume that the route went to Harlington Bearing in mind i've only been through the area once, I would have assumed that buses go to the station anyway. Hayes and Harlington are two different places after all. It makes sense to associate the curtailment with the station I only.
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Post by vjaska on Dec 8, 2014 14:57:04 GMT
The problem with that though is then, you expect everything that shows Kingston or Kingston Town Centre to terminate in the same place when we know they don't. The only place where I can think that keeping 'Town Centre' as its blind is fine is in Hornchurch as the main stand in Hornchurch is in the town centre (there is another stand on a side road but it isn't as used compared to the 252 & 372's stand. Well not really tbh, just because a blind displays Croydon, Town Centre does not actually mean all routes displaying this finish at the same place. It is very simple display informing people this bus goes to the town centre The bus routes in Kingston all serve a part of Kingston Town Centre. I disagree It works fine for Croydon & Catford displaying Croydon Town Centre & Catford Town Centre for curtailments. They may all serve the Town Centre but buses that terminate at Fairfield Bus Station do not serve Kingston Town Centre when heading towards Kingston. The definition of a town centre is the core of the town where the main shopping areas are located - for me, Fairfield Bus Station, Cromwell Road Bus Station & Kingston Hall Road are not the town centre just like Fairfield Hall, Park Street & Katherine Street are not the town centre in Croydon. I think we'll have to agree to disagree lol.
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Post by rmz19 on Dec 8, 2014 15:21:53 GMT
381 Waterloo > Waterloo, County Hall The 341 and 381 terminate at the same place. So why have two different terminus names? I thought the 341's stand is at the end of Baylis Road and the 381's stand is on York Road?, according to what I saw a while back anyway.
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Post by Nathan on Dec 8, 2014 16:02:39 GMT
- Copt Gilders > Chessington, Copt Gilders OR Copt Gilders Estate - Hook > Hook Parade - I actually got confused by this one time. I thought this was the Hook just outside of London!
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Post by vjaska on Dec 8, 2014 19:12:08 GMT
The 341 and 381 terminate at the same place. So why have two different terminus names? I thought the 341's stand is at the end of Baylis Road and the 381's stand is on York Road?, according to what I saw a while back anyway. Many years ago, that was the case but nowadays, it terminates on Addington Street. Personally, both the 341 & 381 should be Waterloo, County Hall as that's their alighting point.
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Post by rmz19 on Dec 9, 2014 12:18:40 GMT
I thought the 341's stand is at the end of Baylis Road and the 381's stand is on York Road?, according to what I saw a while back anyway. Many years ago, that was the case but nowadays, it terminates on Addington Street. Personally, both the 341 & 381 should be Waterloo, County Hall as that's their alighting point. Ah right in that case I agree, they both should be renamed more accurately as Waterloo, County Hall.
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Post by metrobusfan on Dec 9, 2014 15:44:13 GMT
The 119 terminus name Purley Way-Colonnades should instead be Waddon-Colonnades or South Waddon. Even though the terminus is by Purley Way I think they seem as more accurate terminus names, plus it's situated south of Waddon so it's geographically correct. South waddon! That's new to me lol.
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Post by rmz19 on Dec 9, 2014 16:01:42 GMT
The 119 terminus name Purley Way-Colonnades should instead be Waddon-Colonnades or South Waddon. Even though the terminus is by Purley Way I think they seem as more accurate terminus names, plus it's situated south of Waddon so it's geographically correct. South waddon! That's new to me lol. Lol I just thought it would be ideal as it's geographically south of Waddon, then again it's not far off Waddon itself so imo Waddon, Purley Way or Waddon, Colonnades would be alright.
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Post by metrobusfan on Dec 9, 2014 21:56:27 GMT
South waddon! That's new to me lol. Lol I just thought it would be ideal as it's geographically south of Waddon, then again it's not far off Waddon itself so imo Waddon, Purley Way or Waddon, Colonnades would be alright. I knew what you ment
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Post by routew15 on Dec 10, 2014 17:37:11 GMT
Higham Hill > Higham Hill, Billet Lane (Not to be confused with the W15s terminus which is Higham Hill, Cogan Avenue) Temple Mills, Lea Interchange > Spitalfields Market Albion Road > Stoke Newington, Town Hall (Where on Albion Road? Way to vague) Snells Park, Sainsbury > Snells Park, Fore Street (The Sainsbury's has closed and the new one is further away. The qualifier could be dropped all together Snells Park is well known in the area and is also easy to search for if you are not from the area) Leyton, Town Hall > Leyton Library (Leyton Town Hall is now known as a Leyton Great Hall, calling the stop Leyton Great Hall or Leyton, Old Town Hall would not be as sensible as the current landmark in this part of Leyton is the refurbished Library) Brent Cross > Brent Cross Shopping Centre (Brent Cross is fine but could be miss leading) Tottenham Town Hall > Tottenham Green (the town hall is not officially known as Tottneham Town Hall anymore it's new name is ^the Dream Centre) Walthamstow, Hale End Road > Walthamstow, Wadham Road (curtailment that is rarely used by the 275 but the question is which end of Hale End Road? this new name tells you) Seven Stars Corner > Goldhawk Road, Seven Stars Corner (I remember getting on the 266 on its first day with First and the service was a shambles, when a bus eventually came it was going to Seven Stars Corner and no one (including the driver) knew where this destination was, I tried searching Seven Stars Corner on TfL Bus Maps and on ^^Google nothing came up. Adding Goldhawk Road will give a clearer idea of where the bus is going)
^The building is still called Tottenham Town Hall but the owners call it 'The Dream Centre' ^^Search results on Google do appear now
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2014 22:10:07 GMT
On the 488s blinds it would be better to display Bromley By Bow, Tesco (which is what the iBus announcements say) rather than just Bromley By Bow.
Also on the blinds for the 276 as well as Bow Church there's also Bow Bus Garage, that's quite unnecessary as other buses terminating at the same stop say simply Bow Church (8 and 205).
It may also be useful to have a separate destination on blinds reading 'Bow Church Station', could be helpful. Though in that case Bow Bus Garage should be kept and actually other blinds should display Bow Bus Garage. But Bow Church isn't a big area so not completely necessary.
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Post by DT 11 on Dec 12, 2014 23:00:49 GMT
On the 488s blinds it would be better to display Bromley By Bow, Tesco (which is what the iBus announcements say) rather than just Bromley By Bow. Also on the blinds for the 276 as well as Bow Church there's also Bow Bus Garage, that's quite unnecessary as other buses terminating at the same stop say simply Bow Church (8 and 205). It may also be useful to have a separate destination on blinds reading 'Bow Church Station', could be helpful. Though in that case Bow Bus Garage should be kept and actually other blinds should display Bow Bus Garage. But Bow Church isn't a big area so not completely necessary. The blinds in those buses were ordered when it used to stand at Twelvetrees Crescent and also display "Twelvetrees Crescent , the iBus has always stated "488 to Bromley By Bow" and since altered to stand at the Tesco has displayed what is current The 488 is going to Tower Transit so does not really matter at the moment. The 276 & 488 towards Stratford & Bromley By Bow can use BW to turn around. The Bow Church turn for other routes is actually Bow Roundabout, both the 8 & 205 also use it. The 8 & 205 stand where they are operated from.
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Post by COBO on Dec 13, 2014 9:11:19 GMT
Greenford Westway Cross > Westway Cross Retail Park
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