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Post by twobellstogo on Oct 20, 2021 11:38:21 GMT
I did say a while back on here of the 3 tri-lines that converge on Dartford, Bexleyheath Line gets the worst service and today is a casing point. Because of the above point failure, there is no trains outside the peaks on the Bexleyheath Line to London Bridge - Charing Cross The Charing Cross service they could easily run to Cannon Street instead, which would bypass the points failure. The Woolwich line has many trains going to London Bridge, maybe 6tph. The Charing Cross Service they could run via Greenwich, which mean could free up the slots for the Bexleyheath Line, so the Charing Cross service could run. The Sidcup Line also has 6tph. The Bexleyheath Line 0tph (apart from a far from useful Victoria Service) Yesterday was exceptional circumstances to be fair and obviously only so many trains could be rerouted into Cannon Street. Unless I'm missing something the Sidcup line also has 4tph at the moment? Likewise the Orpington and Hayes services are 4tph and the Dartford to Victoria service is probably very useful to a lot of people. I agree about the Vic service : but still think it should have been the Woolwich/Lewisham service to Charing Cross that should have gone yesterday, that would only have left one station with 2 trains per hour (Blackheath) rather than multiple.
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Post by richard on Oct 20, 2021 13:21:14 GMT
As Southeastern has been taken over by the Government the franchise will be simply be called SE
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Post by wirewiper on Oct 20, 2021 13:43:39 GMT
As Southeastern has been taken over by the Government the franchise will be simply be called SE Has there been any official announcement about the name change?
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Post by richard on Oct 20, 2021 14:05:21 GMT
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Post by buspete on Oct 20, 2021 17:49:20 GMT
I mean 6tph between London Street and Sidcup.
No doubt people will find the Victoria service useful, especially if you work in the Ministries around Victoria, a lot of people commute to Denmark Hill for the hospital. The service though is niche if you want to go to Victoria, West London and Heathrow. The service takes 45 minutes to go from Bexleyheath, where the London Bridge from Bexleyheath is 30 minutes. I am not saying scrap the service, but give us a viable alternative, including Sundays, especially as theatres now run on a Sunday. The Cannon Street/Charing Cross you definitely know it's secondary.
I am not saying cancel the Woolwich - Charing Cross train yesterday, I am saying run it via Greenwich to Cannon Street, which would free up a path for the Bexleyheath - Charing Cross train to run - or instead of cancelling the Charing Cross service, they could've just diverted it to Cannon Street, then at least that would have been something.
Yesterday was exceptional circumstances to be fair and obviously only so many trains could be rerouted into Cannon Street. Unless I'm missing something the Sidcup line also has 4tph at the moment? Likewise the Orpington and Hayes services are 4tph and the Dartford to Victoria service is probably very useful to a lot of people. With the Cannon Street service the Sidcup had 6tph to London Bridge, whilst the Bexleyheath Line had none.No doubt Victoria will be handy for some, especially if you work in the ministries around the Victoria area, a lot of people use it also to commute to King's College Hospital at Denmark Hill, but tis usefulness is niche, to Victoria, West London or Heathrow. It takes 45 minutes to get from Bexleyheath to Victoria, where London Bridge is 30 minutes. I am not say abolish it, but give us an alternative like the other 2 lines have. At the moment I have an half hour service, where the other lines have 10 minutes.
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Post by greenboy on Oct 20, 2021 18:33:21 GMT
I mean 6tph between London Street and Sidcup.
No doubt people will find the Victoria service useful, especially if you work in the Ministries around Victoria, a lot of people commute to Denmark Hill for the hospital. The service though is niche if you want to go to Victoria, West London and Heathrow. The service takes 45 minutes to go from Bexleyheath, where the London Bridge from Bexleyheath is 30 minutes. I am not saying scrap the service, but give us a viable alternative, including Sundays, especially as theatres now run on a Sunday. The Cannon Street/Charing Cross you definitely know it's secondary.
I am not saying cancel the Woolwich - Charing Cross train yesterday, I am saying run it via Greenwich to Cannon Street, which would free up a path for the Bexleyheath - Charing Cross train to run - or instead of cancelling the Charing Cross service, they could've just diverted it to Cannon Street, then at least that would have been something.
Yesterday was exceptional circumstances to be fair and obviously only so many trains could be rerouted into Cannon Street. Unless I'm missing something the Sidcup line also has 4tph at the moment? Likewise the Orpington and Hayes services are 4tph and the Dartford to Victoria service is probably very useful to a lot of people. With the Cannon Street service the Sidcup had 6tph to London Bridge, whilst the Bexleyheath Line had none.No doubt Victoria will be handy for some, especially if you work in the ministries around the Victoria area, a lot of people use it also to commute to King's College Hospital at Denmark Hill, but tis usefulness is niche, to Victoria, West London or Heathrow. It takes 45 minutes to get from Bexleyheath to Victoria, where London Bridge is 30 minutes. I am not say abolish it, but give us an alternative like the other 2 lines have. At the moment I have an half hour service, where the other lines have 10 minutes. Sidcup has 4tph off peak, 2tph to Charing Cross and 2tph to Cannon Street. I don't really see what you're complaining about to be honest.
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Post by YY13VKP on Oct 20, 2021 18:34:46 GMT
That’s not correct. SE Trains will still trade as Southeastern and the branding will stay the same for now at least. SE Trains is only the legal name of the new company set up by the DFT to take over from London & South Eastern Railway (LSER) , which was the holding company that Govia had.
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Post by greenboy on Oct 20, 2021 19:18:08 GMT
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Post by greenboy on Oct 23, 2021 16:51:20 GMT
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Post by Dillon95 on Oct 23, 2021 17:58:27 GMT
What a nightmare. It looks like the Orpington to Victoria via Herne Hill services are running to Blackfriars, and the Dover Priory to Victoria via Chatham/Ashford to Victoria via Maidstone East services are running to Cannon Street. They are running non stop from St Mary Cray to London Bridge so aren’t serving Bromley South, so I’m assuming they are going via Grove Park rather than via Catford Bridge. It looks like there is nothing going to Ramsgate.
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Post by greenboy on Oct 23, 2021 18:50:05 GMT
What a nightmare. It looks like the Orpington to Victoria via Herne Hill services are running to Blackfriars, and the Dover Priory to Victoria via Chatham/Ashford to Victoria via Maidstone East services are running to Cannon Street. They are running non stop from St Mary Cray to London Bridge so aren’t serving Bromley South, so I’m assuming they are going via Grove Park rather than via Catford Bridge. It looks like there is nothing going to Ramsgate. Southeastern have now announced no further services in or out of Victoria today. There is a service to and from Ramsgate via Faversham fast from Rochester to Cannon Street via Dartford, the line via Canterbury West is closed for engineering work. The High Speed services seem to be running near normal.
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Post by greenboy on Oct 23, 2021 19:55:34 GMT
Another update, services can now resume to and from Victoria.....
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Post by twobellstogo on Oct 23, 2021 20:38:17 GMT
Southeastern have had an appalling first week out of Govia hands.
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Post by southlondon413 on Oct 23, 2021 21:00:55 GMT
Southeastern have had an appalling first week out of Govia hands. Ah yes, I forgot that adverse weather and signal faults were controllable under Govia 😂😂
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Post by TA1 on Oct 23, 2021 21:26:03 GMT
Southeastern have had an appalling first week out of Govia hands. As a result of Various Network Rail Infrastructure failures. Nothing else has changed except Govia no longer running the company.
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