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Post by YY13VKP on May 28, 2024 18:27:46 GMT
Also I have heard news that a direct peak service from Anerley and Penge West to London Bridge will be restored from December I wouldn’t quite say that’s 100% confirmed yet. It all depends on how the fleet cascade project goes.
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Post by PGAT on May 28, 2024 18:29:34 GMT
Also I have heard news that a direct peak service from Anerley and Penge West to London Bridge will be restored from December I wouldn’t quite say that’s 100% confirmed yet. It all depends on how the fleet cascade project goes. It was confirmed by an MP x.com/elliereeves/status/1792570910702010445Also it's extremely unlikely that Southern gets a net loss from transferring 377s to Southeastern. While it is confirmed 387s will be acquired we technically do not know for certain they will be losing any 377s
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Post by galwhv69 on May 28, 2024 20:35:13 GMT
I wouldn’t quite say that’s 100% confirmed yet. It all depends on how the fleet cascade project goes. It was confirmed by an MP x.com/elliereeves/status/1792570910702010445Also it's extremely unlikely that Southern gets a net loss from transferring 377s to Southeastern. While it is confirmed 387s will be acquired we technically do not know for certain they will be losing any 377s I spoke to someone at SE recently whilst on a work visit who did say some 377's would be moving over. However should still be a net increase in units for GTR
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Post by rif153 on Jun 9, 2024 15:37:30 GMT
I was using the Watford Junction-East Croydon service the other day and one thing which occurred to me is how silly it is this service doesn't call at Bushey. A stop there would offer really useful connections for communities in South Watford, thus giving them a direct link to Clapham Junction and connections from there to Gatwick, the South Coast etc. Is there any reason why the service doesn't have a stop there? I know the service runs quite closely behind a LNWR service that stops at Bushey in the southbound direction but I can imagine the lack of a direct connection probably puts plenty of people off, despite the lack of a simple same platform change at Harrow & Wealdstone.
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Post by PGAT on Jun 9, 2024 15:42:20 GMT
I was using the Watford Junction-East Croydon service the other day and one thing which occurred to me is how silly it is this service doesn't call at Bushey. A stop there would offer really useful connections for communities in South Watford, thus giving them a direct link to Clapham Junction and connections from there to Gatwick, the South Coast etc. Is there any reason why the service doesn't have a stop there? I know the service runs quite closely behind a LNWR service that stops at Bushey in the southbound direction but I can imagine the lack of a direct connection probably puts plenty of people off, despite the lack of a simple same platform change at Harrow & Wealdstone. Probably when it was a Milton Keynes service stops were minimised so that the journey times weren't too excessive and the passenger demand was relatively low but now that it only goes to Watford there's a much greater case for stopping there. I have seen them stop unscheduled on one occasion about a year or two ago
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Post by YY13VKP on Jun 9, 2024 16:02:11 GMT
I was using the Watford Junction-East Croydon service the other day and one thing which occurred to me is how silly it is this service doesn't call at Bushey. A stop there would offer really useful connections for communities in South Watford, thus giving them a direct link to Clapham Junction and connections from there to Gatwick, the South Coast etc. Is there any reason why the service doesn't have a stop there? I know the service runs quite closely behind a LNWR service that stops at Bushey in the southbound direction but I can imagine the lack of a direct connection probably puts plenty of people off, despite the lack of a simple same platform change at Harrow & Wealdstone. Probably when it was a Milton Keynes service stops were minimised so that the journey times weren't too excessive and the passenger demand was relatively low but now that it only goes to Watford there's a much greater case for stopping there. I have seen them stop unscheduled on one occasion about a year or two ago I believe calling the West London Line services at Bushey was being looked at for the May 2022 timetable change and came very close to being implemented but ultimately it never went ahead and has been shelved for the time being.
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Post by gwiwer on Jun 9, 2024 19:56:30 GMT
There is time on the turnback a t Watford to allow for Bushey stops. Is there enough in the pathing? Not just for other passenger trains (the Tring stoppers are usually quite close behind) but for agreed freight paths on the slow lines too. Is there a station staffing issue? Southern have to provide staff for Wembley Central in order to have their trains stop there.
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Post by TA1 on Jun 9, 2024 20:01:46 GMT
There is time on the turnback a t Watford to allow for Bushey stops. Is there enough in the pathing? Not just for other passenger trains (the Tring stoppers are usually quite close behind) but for agreed freight paths on the slow lines too. Is there a station staffing issue? Southern have to provide staff for Wembley Central in order to have their trains stop there. I’ve never seen Southern staff at Wembley Central, I’m not sure why they would need to be there in the first place. When services are dispatched via the conductor north of Clapham Junction. LUL station limit access to Platforms 5 & 6 about 5/10 minutes before the trains arrive on their respective platforms.
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Post by greenboy on Jun 9, 2024 20:26:33 GMT
There is time on the turnback a t Watford to allow for Bushey stops. Is there enough in the pathing? Not just for other passenger trains (the Tring stoppers are usually quite close behind) but for agreed freight paths on the slow lines too. Is there a station staffing issue? Southern have to provide staff for Wembley Central in order to have their trains stop there. I’ve never seen Southern staff at Wembley Central, I’m not sure why they would need to be there in the first place. When services are dispatched via the conductor north of Clapham Junction. LUL station limit access to Platforms 5 & 6 about 5/10 minutes before the trains arrive on their respective platforms. I thought Southern staff were there to allow passengers onto the platform shortly before the train arrived?
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Post by TA1 on Jun 9, 2024 20:37:50 GMT
I’ve never seen Southern staff at Wembley Central, I’m not sure why they would need to be there in the first place. When services are dispatched via the conductor north of Clapham Junction. LUL station limit access to Platforms 5 & 6 about 5/10 minutes before the trains arrive on their respective platforms. I thought Southern staff were there to allow passengers onto the platform shortly before the train arrived? I’ve never seen them, LU Staff always move the barrier to allow access to the platforms. Used to be the case when (LM) LNWR used to stop there. (A call sorely missed by myself).
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Post by PGAT on Jun 10, 2024 12:18:21 GMT
Interestingly two 377/6s (608 and 623) are running on a Gatwick Express diagram today
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Post by TA1 on Jun 10, 2024 13:45:27 GMT
Interestingly two 377/6s (608 and 623) are running on a Gatwick Express diagram today Caused by a shortage of servicable 387 units at Stewarts Lane.
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Post by YY13VKP on Jun 10, 2024 16:06:40 GMT
Interestingly two 377/6s (608 and 623) are running on a Gatwick Express diagram today Caused by a shortage of servicable 387 units at Stewarts Lane. Now subbed for an 8 car 387
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Post by PGAT on Jun 11, 2024 22:17:53 GMT
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Post by buspete on Jun 12, 2024 1:38:00 GMT
I would say that is a good idea, as the report suggests people don’t mind a bit longer journey as long as they’re not troubled by changing, hence a 1 seat ride. Going off piste I also thought the extention of the Gatwick Express to Brighton was a great idea, but would also suggest the stock used are more commuter train than the former Inter City and should be treated as so. When the service resumes again to 4tph I certainly would advocate extending this service to Southampton/Portsmouth, I also would stop all 4 trains at Clapham Junction/East Croydon. By extending to Portsmouth/Southampton it avoids the delay at Horsham to split trains. I go to Chichester a lot and the part past Gatwick is so slow. As I say the train is more commuter service now.
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