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Post by sid on Jun 26, 2018 20:24:39 GMT
On the 44 & 77 at Tooting Station,some drivers let the passengers stay on until they reach the stand Would the drivers get a fine for taking passengers on oos journeys without permission from the controller? I wouldn't think so, I can't see why passengers can't stay on until they reach the stand, saves them having to cross a busy road.
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Post by londonbuses2018 on Jun 26, 2018 20:31:55 GMT
Route 240 unofficial turning points or shorts turns which don’t always happen Mill Hill East from both sides Mill Hill Broadway from GG
turning point Hendon, The Bell, aka Hendon, Brent Green
382 turning points Arnos Grove New Southgate (Very rarely) Finchley Central Mill Hill East Station (Very rarely)
221 turning points Mill Hill Broadway (School Journeys) Mill Hill East (Very unlikely) North Finchley (Sometimes happens)
13 turning points Bakers Street Swiss Cottage (Unheard of) Golders Green (Occasionally happens) Finchley Central, St Mary’s Church (Happens now and again)
139 official turning points Waterloo West Hampstead, West End Lane (Happens sometimes)
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Post by VWH1414 on Jun 27, 2018 21:23:39 GMT
221 turning points North Finchley (Sometimes happens) lol more like always It can be such a pain to get a 221 going all the way to Edgware sometimes, as I have found out before on occasional trips to North Finchley, on one occasion 3 221s in a row terminated at North Finchley, before an Edgware one finally came.
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Post by stuckonthe486 on Jul 5, 2018 12:08:03 GMT
Noticed the route record for the 53 still has Charlton, Hornfair Road as a turn - haven't seen that since Routemaster days. The 380 has it too, despite being slightly off route - never seen it used at all, though it certainly has a blind for "Charlton Village". Neither the 54 nor 422 have it as a turn.
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Post by Alexis on Jul 5, 2018 15:48:55 GMT
Where do buses to Cubitt Town and Cubitt Town, Manchester Road terminate and turn around?
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Post by I-Azusio-I on Jul 5, 2018 18:26:31 GMT
Where do buses to Cubitt Town and Cubitt Town, Manchester Road terminate and turn around? The last stop for 135 & D7s curtailed to Cubitt Town [from the Canary Wharf direction] is Stewart Street (stop M) then they go round the mini roundabout and pick up from Stewart Street (stop J) for the Old Street/Mile End trip. The last stop for 135 & D7s curtailed to Manchester Road [from the Canary Wharf direction] should be either Island Gardens Station or George Green’s School then they use Glenaffric Avenue, Saunders Ness Road and Glenworth Avenue to turn round and pick up at either Isle of Dogs Police Station or Island Gardens Station.
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Post by ronnie on Jul 5, 2018 20:34:43 GMT
Where do buses to Cubitt Town and Cubitt Town, Manchester Road terminate and turn around? The last stop for 135 & D7s curtailed to Cubitt Town [from the Canary Wharf direction] is Stewart Street (stop M) then they go round the mini roundabout and pick up from Stewart Street (stop J) for the Old Street/Mile End trip. The last stop for 135 & D7s curtailed to Manchester Road [from the Canary Wharf direction] should be either Island Gardens Station or George Green’s School then they use Glenaffric Avenue, Saunders Ness Road and Glenworth Avenue to turn round and pick up at either Isle of Dogs Police Station or Island Gardens Station. Is the latter also used by rail replacement services (westferry to island gardens) when the dlr has engineering work on the weekends? I personally have never seen the first turn. Could be very wrong though ...
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Post by redbus on Jul 9, 2018 22:06:18 GMT
Route 240 unofficial turning points or shorts turns which don’t always happen Mill Hill East from both sides Mill Hill Broadway from GG turning point Hendon, The Bell, aka Hendon, Brent Green 382 turning points Arnos Grove New Southgate (Very rarely) Finchley Central Mill Hill East Station (Very rarely) 221 turning points Mill Hill Broadway (School Journeys) Mill Hill East (Very unlikely) North Finchley (Sometimes happens) 13 turning points Bakers Street Swiss Cottage (Unheard of) Golders Green (Occasionally happens) Finchley Central, St Mary’s Church (Happens now and again) 139 official turning points Waterloo West Hampstead, West End Lane (Happens sometimes) 13 turning points Swiss Cottage - Not unheard of, I have seen it. Finchley Central, more often than one might think Park Lane, Hilton, more often than you might think Also seen St John's Wood (goes around roundabout at Lords and returns). Only seen this turn once, but have a picture of bus complete with blind Portman Square, now and again Finally also once seen Finchley Road (station), after which bus has gone back to X.
139 turning points Aldwych, occasional Piccadilly Circus, sometimes when demos etc mean buses are turned short Oxford Circus, occasional Portman Square, frequent these days, particularly weekends, when demos mean buses turn short
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Post by sid on Jul 10, 2018 5:14:24 GMT
Route 240 unofficial turning points or shorts turns which don’t always happen Mill Hill East from both sides Mill Hill Broadway from GG turning point Hendon, The Bell, aka Hendon, Brent Green 382 turning points Arnos Grove New Southgate (Very rarely) Finchley Central Mill Hill East Station (Very rarely) 221 turning points Mill Hill Broadway (School Journeys) Mill Hill East (Very unlikely) North Finchley (Sometimes happens) 13 turning points Bakers Street Swiss Cottage (Unheard of) Golders Green (Occasionally happens) Finchley Central, St Mary’s Church (Happens now and again) 139 official turning points Waterloo West Hampstead, West End Lane (Happens sometimes) 13 turning points Swiss Cottage - Not unheard of, I have seen it. Finchley Central, more often than one might think Park Lane, Hilton, more often than you might think Also seen St John's Wood (goes around roundabout at Lords and returns). Only seen this turn once, but have a picture of bus complete with blind Portman Square, now and again Finally also once seen Finchley Road (station), after which bus has gone back to X.
139 turning points Aldwych, occasional Piccadilly Circus, sometimes when demos etc mean buses are turned short Oxford Circus, occasional Portman Square, frequent these days, particularly weekends, when demos mean buses turn short
I seem to recall a Finchley Church End turn on the 82.
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Post by danorak on Jul 10, 2018 19:07:39 GMT
Noticed the route record for the 53 still has Charlton, Hornfair Road as a turn - haven't seen that since Routemaster days. The 380 has it too, despite being slightly off route - never seen it used at all, though it certainly has a blind for "Charlton Village". Neither the 54 nor 422 have it as a turn. I was surprised when I saw that it was still listed as I certainly haven't seen it used in the last 30 years! I'm not even sure that a modern bus would fit round given the levels of parking and the traffic calming. If needed, it might just be possible to turn around using the triangle at the top of Charlton Church Lane outside the church if coming from Woolwich.
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Post by busaholic on Dec 26, 2018 0:34:07 GMT
Noticed the route record for the 53 still has Charlton, Hornfair Road as a turn - haven't seen that since Routemaster days. The 380 has it too, despite being slightly off route - never seen it used at all, though it certainly has a blind for "Charlton Village". Neither the 54 nor 422 have it as a turn. I was surprised when I saw that it was still listed as I certainly haven't seen it used in the last 30 years! I'm not even sure that a modern bus would fit round given the levels of parking and the traffic calming. If needed, it might just be possible to turn around using the triangle at the top of Charlton Church Lane outside the church if coming from Woolwich. Sorry, only just noticed this one from a while back. I can only remember 53s in Routemaster days using it too. I don't remember ever seeing a 54 or 75 blinded for that even in crew days, and I saw those every day for decades.
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Post by COBO on Dec 26, 2018 21:22:54 GMT
92: Ealing Hospital Iron Bridge Greenford Broadway (I wonder how it turns if the bus was coming from Ealing Hospital) Greenford Station Sudbury Hill Station Sudbury Wembley Central (I wonder where it turns around/ I’ve been on a 92 that turned at Wembley Central but carried on in service to St Raphael’s via the 18 and North Circular Road and no there was no diversion) Wembley Hill Road Wembley Arena Wembley Trading Estate Brent Park Tesco’s St Raphael’s North or St Raphael’s ( why does the 92 have both destinations on there blinds?)
487: South Harrow Northolt Park Alperton Hanger Lane Park Royal Station North Acton Central Middlesex Hospital Harlesden Jubilee Clock Willesden Junction
395: Westwy Cross Greenford Station Northolt Station South Harrow Harrow
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Post by arrivaarriva on Dec 27, 2018 19:02:59 GMT
Where is the White City turning point for those routes (72, 272) that serve White City Station but not White City Bus Station? Craven Park seems an odd turning point for 224 as it could reach it in only one direction (not online of route)
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Post by arrivaarriva on Dec 27, 2018 19:06:38 GMT
Can someone let Ian Armstrong know that the verbal announcement on his 487 page is for the 225 (Canada Water to Hither Green Station)
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Post by busman on Dec 28, 2018 8:28:07 GMT
92: Ealing Hospital Iron Bridge Greenford Broadway (I wonder how it turns if the bus was coming from Ealing Hospital) Greenford Station Sudbury Hill Station Sudbury Wembley Central (I wonder where it turns around/ I’ve been on a 92 that turned at Wembley Central but carried on in service to St Raphael’s via the 18 and North Circular Road and no there was no diversion) Wembley Hill Road Wembley Arena Wembley Trading Estate Brent Park Tesco’s St Raphael’s North or St Raphael’s ( why does the 92 have both destinations on there blinds?) 487: South Harrow Northolt Park Alperton Hanger Lane Park Royal Station North Acton Central Middlesex Hospital Harlesden Jubilee Clock Willesden Junction 395: Westwy Cross Greenford Station Northolt Station South Harrow Harrow Iron Bridge, really? Is that on the blinds? It’s not listed as an official turning point and in over 30 years I’ve never seen an Iron Bridge turn on the 92.
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