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Post by wivenswold on Dec 19, 2016 18:52:13 GMT
With canteen rumours of Enviro500s coming to the number 5, it got me wondering what other routes could be improved by having longer double-deckers and could viably use them.
Any thoughts?
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Post by RandomBusesGirl on Dec 19, 2016 20:05:53 GMT
Well, if true, then the obvious candidates would be 25, 86, 18, 207 and bunch of other trunk routes…
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Post by southlondonbus on Dec 19, 2016 20:06:14 GMT
The 279 would be good thou the terminal working at Manor House could be problematic. The capacity would be welcome thou.
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Post by vjaska on Dec 19, 2016 20:47:39 GMT
The 109 would be my local choice - 2nd busiest route in South London behind either the 12 or 53 and was mentioned in a report a couple of years ago saying it's overcrowded. The route is also quite straight and only the section in Croydon when a 109 leaves it's Park Street stand to return to Brixton would need a route test.
Other good choices would be the 18, 25, 29, 86, 113, 149, 207, 253, 254, 427, 607
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Post by COBO on Dec 19, 2016 20:49:17 GMT
The 94, 148 and 207.
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Post by snoggle on Dec 19, 2016 22:02:32 GMT
The 148's terminal arrangements at Camberwell are rather tight and might be difficult for 12m tri-axles. The other aspect people need to consider is the size of bus stop / bus stand cages if longer vehicles are to be used. Also as much debated in the Arriva thread garage space is the other factor. We've obviously been here before with artics. |
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Post by ServerKing on Dec 19, 2016 22:10:39 GMT
The 279 would be good though the terminal working at Manor House could be problematic. The capacity would be welcome though. FTFY - sorry I'm a stickler for spelling  Extend the 279 back to Holloway and there's plenty of stand space where the 254 parks at the start of Camden Road and run light back to near Argos for the return journey. And extend the other way to Waltham Abbey to provide a link  |
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Post by rmz19 on Dec 20, 2016 9:38:29 GMT
18, 25, 29, 38 and 73 are the routes that spring to mind.
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Post by sid on Dec 20, 2016 11:53:33 GMT
The 36 would be another candidate if they can manage the Queens Park section.
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Post by snowman on Dec 20, 2016 12:01:55 GMT
In my part of London, (SW) possibilities include :
131 (tender award awaited), or maybe the 11.4m version of the VHs as used on KU services (without glass stairs)
85 (long and straight, with heavy peak loads)
267 (via Brentford which is a population growth area)
Think most other routes would struggle due to a tight corner/junction
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 13:01:05 GMT
81,136,H91,140,32,237
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Post by southlondonbus on Dec 20, 2016 13:14:17 GMT
Either way if they are introduced to London they will only be on an as and when new buses are required basis. I don't think we will have a NB4L situation where they are introduced on routes that already have contract friendly buses.
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Post by Nathan on Dec 20, 2016 13:20:08 GMT
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Post by rmz19 on Dec 20, 2016 13:29:03 GMT
The 36 would be another candidate if they can manage the Queens Park section. I was also thinking that the 36 might be a possible candidate now that the route is pretty much at maximum frequency in the peaks. However, as you mentioned, there might be some resistance in the western end due to tight corners. One thing I'm unsure about, is the rearmost axle of Tri-Axles manoeuvrable? If so then the 36 may just about get away with them. Despite this, the corner at the beginning of Claremont Road would have to be altered in order to accommodate them. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 13:59:20 GMT
Nice long roads btwn Grove Park and Peckham , busy "feeder" and local and commuting route. |
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Extend the 279 back to Holloway and there's plenty of stand space where the 254 parks at the start of Camden Road and run light back to near Argos for the return journey. And extend the other way to Waltham Abbey to provide a link 
