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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jul 4, 2018 15:23:27 GMT
I have no sympathy for high earning locals who'll miss their rat runs in W1. What Westminster Council has done is given Oxford Street a slow death. The eastern end of Oxford Street is already dire with tacky shops, while the western end will continue to be a polluting hellhole for tourists and shoppers navigating to Selfridges and M&S.
The Khan bashers should also understand that the Tory government have cut his subsidies, while Tory Westminster Council has played a blinder by making him look stupid with the abolition of the pedestrianisation scheme, which will affect the capital in the long term.
Oh well, at least a few enthusiasts can still see a NBfL driving outside Selfridges.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jul 4, 2018 11:32:43 GMT
If the Mayor is toppled, it'll be on his record on crime, not on a well meaning scheme to pedestrianise London's main shopping street which for some reason most on here want vehicles still going down it, despite the trend for other high streets over the last 30 years to stop vehicles going down them.
If I spent £8m of public money on the scheme and then the Tory council scrapped it, I'd be fuming.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jul 4, 2018 2:06:52 GMT
The new Forest Hill Pools stops in Dartmouth Road, Forest Hill. The northbound stop is way too close to the Thorpewood Avenue stop to be of any use, while the southbound stop has no shelter thanks to a narrow road and is open to the elements, which make it far from ideal for waiting for the bus in hot or rainy weather.
The 122 stop also in Dartmouth Road (Forest Hill Station) towards Lewisham is right by the traffic lights and despite the road being remodelled, still blocks the 197 and 176 from turning into London Road while it's picking up passengers.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jul 4, 2018 1:57:27 GMT
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jun 24, 2018 0:04:33 GMT
Route 75 - Curtail to West Croydon Bus Station, alllowing the 75 and 157 to once again provide a regular service along the Anerley to Croydon corridor into the bus station in both directions. Route 197 - Change the terminus in Croydon to Fairfield Halls using the 75 stand. If the temporary Croydon pedestrianisation scheme is made permanent, this would be a sensible solution compared to now. Route 202 - Serve Lower Sydenham Sainsbury's. Route 358 - Diverted between Anerley Robin Hood and Elmers End via Elmers End Road to improve reliability. Route 194 would provide a service between Penge and Elmers End via Croydon Road, while the 356 would continue to serve Elmers End between Penge and the Robin Hood. 75 - I don't particularly see why the 75 should be cut back because it parallels the 157 - students going to Croydon College use the 75 right to the stand at Fairfield Halls as the college is right outside and it's not a handful of students, you can get decent loadings. I know this as I was a student at the college for 3 years and I caught the 75 sometimes from Norwood Junction. This is one which really should be left alone - I also don't think there is any space at West Croydon for a terminating bus route especially as the X26 is still terminating on Wellesley Road. 197 - I agree it's current stand isn't ideal and really the stupid pedestrian scheme shouldn't of went ahead, hopefully it's reversed at some point along with the stand changes and the 197 can return to it's Katherine Street stand along with the 264. 202 - I can understand this one and makes sense 358 - The problem with this is it the 358 does a good job of assisting the busy 227 along Beckenham Road given they both run to Crystal Palace even though the 358 goes via a slightly longer route and it splits the passengers between both routes - if it was removed, I could see the 227 being absolutely swamped even more than currently. Whilst the 194 is left, it only follows the 227 as far as Penge before branching off to Sydenham. Despite it's length, I don't particularly feel the 358 is unreliable and I don't think it should be changed. The 432 should be extended to Elmers End via Birkbeck to provide new links and a direct link between Elmers End & Crystal Palace. Re: 75, the only other solution in that case is for the bus to do a loop into West Croydon in the southbound direction as well. West Croydon is an important hub for bus/rail connections and to dump 75 passengers at the stop before the lights into the bus station isn't ideal for those who actually want to go there. Removing the loop may have improved reliability, but has lost connections. I like your idea of extending the 432 instead actually along Elmers End Road. |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jun 23, 2018 23:13:28 GMT
Route 75 - Curtail to West Croydon Bus Station, alllowing the 75 and 157 to once again provide a regular service along the Anerley to Croydon corridor into the bus station in both directions.
Route 197 - Change the terminus in Croydon to Fairfield Halls using the 75 stand. If the temporary Croydon pedestrianisation scheme is made permanent, this would be a sensible solution compared to now.
Route 202 - Serve Lower Sydenham Sainsbury's.
Route 358 - Diverted between Anerley Robin Hood and Elmers End via Elmers End Road to improve reliability. Route 194 would provide a service between Penge and Elmers End via Croydon Road, while the 356 would continue to serve Elmers End between Penge and the Robin Hood.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jun 23, 2018 20:44:32 GMT
Divert Route 484 into East Dulwich Sainsbury's. This would give disabled passengers from Camberwell Green a direct bus into the supermarket instead of going round the houses on Route 42. It also would relieve pressure on the Quorn Road bus stop which is busy with passengers waiting for the bus to Peckham Rye.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jun 8, 2018 22:38:32 GMT
Westfield and online retailers will be celebrating today. I wouldn't fancy riding the 390 or the 139 when they're the only routes going along there. Why would they be celebrating??? Its not as if they see Oxford Street as a threat, even if it were pedestrianized. It would only attract more thieves and vagabonds. If you really think I would spend my time and money to go Oxford Street when pedestrianized to walk for ages, when I could click on my pc and order or go to nearby Westfield, you must have a very strange way of thinking. Its like saying go from East London to Heathrow airport for shopping.
Westfield has an enclosed shopping area, free from polluting taxis and buses with easy access to public transport. Shoppers using Oxford Street will still be kept to the pavements in what isn't a nice experience as it is. With only two routes serving the street, it'll be even worse. So unless you fancy getting crushed and breathing in fumes, it's either Westfield London or Westfield Stratford City which are easy to reach from Oxford Street or you can just stay at home and order what you like instead. House of Fraser is the latest victim of internet shopping to close on Oxford Street. Commercially for the retailers, the pedestination of Oxford Street being scrapped by Westminster is a disaster as it'd attract more customers than currently. Incidentally, walking is good for you, you should do at least 10,000 steps a day. |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jun 8, 2018 18:13:12 GMT
The loser in all this will still be Oxford Street shoppers who'll still have to cross through taxis and the reduced amount of buses. It still won't be as attractive to shop there in comparison to the two Westfield's. The high street is already in decline and thanks to Westminster Council, the supposed 'flagship' high street will have similar issues to now. Public transport wise, it'll still be the Elizabeth and Central lines taking the strain as those two routes will be rammed during shopping hours. Exactly, I think it will probably end up with some fudged compromise that won't really benefit anybody other than maybe taxi drivers and local residents. Westminster Council have acknowledged that things can't stay as they are. Westfield and online retailers will be celebrating today. I wouldn't fancy riding the 390 or the 139 when they're the only routes going along there. |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jun 8, 2018 15:56:16 GMT
The loser in all this will still be Oxford Street shoppers who'll still have to cross through taxis and the reduced amount of buses. It still won't be as attractive to shop there in comparison to the two Westfield's.
The high street is already in decline and thanks to Westminster Council, the supposed 'flagship' high street will have similar issues to now.
Public transport wise, it'll still be the Elizabeth and Central lines taking the strain as those two routes will be rammed during shopping hours.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jun 8, 2018 15:50:25 GMT
I wish the 185 operated like clockwork. I still end up waiting 15 mins for a bus on occasion.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on May 21, 2018 1:37:28 GMT
The 194 is similar to a single decker route in that you'd use it for short journeys, such as Penge to Lower Sydenham, Beckenham to West Wickham, Croydon to Shrublands, but you wouldn't in your right mind use it to go to Croydon from Lower Sydenham thanks to the long winded route.
It is however missed between Lower Sydenham and Forest Hill where the 356 brought a reduction in frequency along Perry Rise, where the 356 can be easily filled as a single decker between those two sections of the route.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Apr 11, 2018 13:06:15 GMT
E's have been doing the rounds covering for MHV and EH's on the 40 and 42, while the 176 has seen it's fair share of MHV's. All Q routes. Not mentioning the 185 which already has a regular supply of E's covering the route.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Apr 11, 2018 13:02:22 GMT
Route P13 will be once again on diversion in East Dulwich on April 12th due to the resurfacing of Whateley Rd and won't serve Whateley Rd or Underhill Road between Crystal Palace Road and Barry Road.
Diversion is Lordship Lane, left Barry Road, right Underhill Road to line of route.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Mar 6, 2018 22:10:34 GMT
Camberwell to Dulwich Library: 12, 40, 176, 185.
Camberwell to East Dulwich: 40, 42, 176, 185, 484
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