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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 19, 2023 3:08:53 GMT
4 consecutive days of very little tube £64k wages with a 8.4% increase in April Drivers, ASLEF/RMT on 63.9k are only striking two days, and as explained it isn’t about pay. There was no increase in April 2023.
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Post by northlondon83 on Jul 19, 2023 4:05:23 GMT
4 consecutive days of very little tube £64k wages with a 8.4% increase in April Drivers, ASLEF/RMT on 63.9k are only striking two days, and as explained it isn’t about pay. There was no increase in April 2023. From the article: On Tuesday 25 July and Thursday 27 July, little to no service is expected across the Underground
And on Wednesday 26 and Friday 28 July, no service is expected, including
I reread the article and the pay increase was referring to 2022.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 19, 2023 5:31:46 GMT
I reread the article and the pay increase was referring to 2022. Which clearly states the agreed increase was just 0.2% above inflation. Inflation is not set by LU or the unions. Drivers are not striking on 25 and 27 July.
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Post by northlondon83 on Jul 19, 2023 9:46:27 GMT
I reread the article and the pay increase was referring to 2022. Which clearly states the agreed increase was just 0.2% above inflation. Inflation is not set by LU or the unions. Drivers are not striking on 25 and 27 July. Despite the fact that they are only striking on 2 days there will be disruption on 4. There are also rail strikes over the next two Saturdays so despite the fact that the tube drivers aren't going on strike then, wherever you'll live in London you'll be affected. Some people don't have a car so will most likely be forced onto the bus for their commute during the week. I don't see the strikes going down well with the general public
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 19, 2023 11:40:21 GMT
Despite the fact that they are only striking on 2 days there will be disruption on 4. Drivers will be reporting for duty normally on 25 and 27 July, the reason for 4 days disruption is the other grades taking action, as indicated above: tangytango.proboards.com/post/757972/thread
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Post by ibus246 on Jul 19, 2023 13:32:19 GMT
Tube strikes: What you need to knowLondon Underground drivers and staff are set to take strike action as part of a dispute over pensions, jobs and conditions.www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66231905 4 consecutive days of very little tube £64k wages with a 8.4% increase in April Wow... No wonder people have had enough. This is an absolute joke! I don't remember the tube being on strike for that many days in a row in past strikes. I remember in previous strikes the buses were packed especially in central London. Some were non existent too. The Overground between Watford and Euston was really bad however the Richmond/CJ to Stratford line fared better. I don't think that London will cope next week with the strikes It will cope so stop being alarmist. Let them go on strike for as long as they want. What have they achieved so far? Nothing.
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Post by greenboy on Jul 19, 2023 14:27:50 GMT
4 consecutive days of very little tube £64k wages with a 8.4% increase in April Wow... No wonder people have had enough. This is an absolute joke! I don't remember the tube being on strike for that many days in a row in past strikes. I remember in previous strikes the buses were packed especially in central London. Some were non existent too. The Overground between Watford and Euston was really bad however the Richmond/CJ to Stratford line fared better. I don't think that London will cope next week with the strikes It will cope so stop being alarmist. Let them go on strike for as long as they want. What have they achieved so far? Nothing. I think all these strikes are achieving is to show people how they can manage without the rail industry.
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Post by northlondon83 on Jul 19, 2023 14:30:23 GMT
4 consecutive days of very little tube £64k wages with a 8.4% increase in April Wow... No wonder people have had enough. This is an absolute joke! I don't remember the tube being on strike for that many days in a row in past strikes. I remember in previous strikes the buses were packed especially in central London. Some were non existent too. The Overground between Watford and Euston was really bad however the Richmond/CJ to Stratford line fared better. I don't think that London will cope next week with the strikes It will cope so stop being alarmist. Let them go on strike for as long as they want. What have they achieved so far? Nothing. I disagree. If they have achieved nothing I see no reason for them to strike again. As for 'let them strike for as long as they want' will really go down well with the public! If you did that people would struggle to get to work and ridership on the tube would decline as people wouldn't trust tfl as much as they did previously
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Post by WH241 on Jul 19, 2023 14:49:55 GMT
It will cope so stop being alarmist. Let them go on strike for as long as they want. What have they achieved so far? Nothing. I disagree. If they have achieved nothing I see no reason for them to strike again. As for 'let them strike for as long as they want' will really go down well with the public! If you did that people would struggle to get to work and ridership on the tube would decline as people wouldn't trust tfl as much as they did previously But they have already been striking for what seems like months so the public are used to it now. I do think you are building this up more than it is in terms of disruption! The strikes have nowhere near as much impact as they did before Covid! I am no fan of WFH but this has been a game changer when it comes to strikes. You also have to consider the Elizabeth Line is a big game changer and is usually not affected by strikes. There won’t be a sudden decline in numbers using the tube as a result of the strikes.
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Post by ibus246 on Jul 19, 2023 15:07:22 GMT
It will cope so stop being alarmist. Let them go on strike for as long as they want. What have they achieved so far? Nothing. I disagree. If they have achieved nothing I see no reason for them to strike again. As for 'let them strike for as long as they want' will really go down well with the public! If you did that people would struggle to get to work and ridership on the tube would decline as people wouldn't trust tfl as much as they did previously Again, stop being so alarmist. The strikes across the whole overpaid staff in the rail industry are boring now. Not all, but many have found alternative ways to travel. Your comment “that will really go down well with the public” - is silly. Do you really think striking workers care about the public - my comment was made on a public forum and not on behalf of the organisation so I couldn’t care less “what will go down well with the public” and also who says people “trust TfL” at the moment? How are you measuring “trust”?
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Post by northlondon83 on Jul 19, 2023 15:22:51 GMT
I disagree. If they have achieved nothing I see no reason for them to strike again. As for 'let them strike for as long as they want' will really go down well with the public! If you did that people would struggle to get to work and ridership on the tube would decline as people wouldn't trust tfl as much as they did previously But they have already been striking for what seems like months so the public are used to it now. I do think you are building this up more than it is in terms of disruption! The strikes have nowhere near as much impact as they did before Covid! I am no fan of WFH but this has been a game changer when it comes to strikes. You also have to consider the Elizabeth Line is a big game changer and is usually not affected by strikes. There won’t be a sudden decline in numbers using the tube as a result of the strikes. There won't be a decline but if the OP said let them strike as long as possible which I think was a bit of an exaggeration then the public would look for other ways of getting by. Not everywhere has alternatives. The Overground runs on strike days, with the Watford to Euston line being my nearest however I would still have to take 2 buses to get there and there's no guarantee of getting a seat
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Post by northlondon83 on Jul 19, 2023 15:25:19 GMT
I disagree. If they have achieved nothing I see no reason for them to strike again. As for 'let them strike for as long as they want' will really go down well with the public! If you did that people would struggle to get to work and ridership on the tube would decline as people wouldn't trust tfl as much as they did previously Again, stop being so alarmist. The strikes across the whole overpaid staff in the rail industry are boring now. Not all, but many have found alternative ways to travel. Your comment “that will really go down well with the public” - is silly. Do you really think striking workers care about the public - my comment was made on a public forum and not on behalf of the organisation so I couldn’t care less “what will go down well with the public” and also who says people “trust TfL” at the moment? How are you measuring “trust”? I think you will find out that the first quote you quoted me was sarcastic! Of course striking workers only care about themselves. Not a clue whether you work for tfl but those who do should have better attitudes towards the public. After all their job is to provide a service for them.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jul 19, 2023 23:35:01 GMT
It will cope so stop being alarmist. Let them go on strike for as long as they want. What have they achieved so far? Nothing. I disagree. If they have achieved nothing I see no reason for them to strike again. As for 'let them strike for as long as they want' will really go down well with the public! If you did that people would struggle to get to work and ridership on the tube would decline as people wouldn't trust tfl as much as they did previously hmmm, I NEVER trusted TfL
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Post by LondonNorthern on Jul 20, 2023 9:05:50 GMT
It will cope so stop being alarmist. Let them go on strike for as long as they want. What have they achieved so far? Nothing. I disagree. If they have achieved nothing I see no reason for them to strike again. As for 'let them strike for as long as they want' will really go down well with the public! If you did that people would struggle to get to work and ridership on the tube would decline as people wouldn't trust tfl as much as they did previously Do you not understand the purpose of strike action? Of course if they haven’t achieved the result that their members are wanting, then they will continue to strike. Personally I would look beyond the Daily Mail articles and would actually watch videos of Eddie Dempsey and Mick Lynch speaking about strike action.
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Post by northlondon83 on Jul 20, 2023 9:56:11 GMT
I disagree. If they have achieved nothing I see no reason for them to strike again. As for 'let them strike for as long as they want' will really go down well with the public! If you did that people would struggle to get to work and ridership on the tube would decline as people wouldn't trust tfl as much as they did previously Do you not understand the purpose of strike action? Of course if they haven’t achieved the result that their members are wanting, then they will continue to strike. Personally I would look beyond the Daily Mail articles and would actually watch videos of Eddie Dempsey and Mick Lynch speaking about strike action. Regardless it is an inconvenience for the general public so I do not support the strikes and never will.
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