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Post by matthieu1221 on Mar 22, 2024 18:29:01 GMT
This isn't about pay (directly) though, so will be easier to resolve without tossing money at the issue (if indeed Starmer wasn't happy with money being tossed at the issue last time around).
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Post by capitalomnibus on Mar 24, 2024 5:50:25 GMT
This isn't about pay (directly) though, so will be easier to resolve without tossing money at the issue (if indeed Starmer wasn't happy with money being tossed at the issue last time around). On one part it did say about pay though.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 24, 2024 14:46:41 GMT
On one part it did say about pay though. The only mention of pay in either the ASLEF or BBC report is:
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Post by capitalomnibus on Mar 29, 2024 11:35:10 GMT
On one part it did say about pay though. The only mention of pay in either the ASLEF or BBC report is: Well according to www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/when-next-train-tube-strikes-date-london-aslef-b1146515.htmlWhy is Aslef striking? Aslef wants to resolve a long-running dispute over drivers’ working conditions and pay. Finn Brennan, a representative for the union, said: “Aslef Tube train drivers will strike in April and May in a long-running dispute over London Underground’s failure to give assurances that changes to our members’ terms and conditions will not be imposed without agreement and that all existing agreements will be honoured. “Despite a previous commitment to withdraw plans for massive changes to drivers’ working conditions, London Underground management has established a full-time team of managers preparing to impose their plans. “They want drivers to work longer shifts, spending up to 25 per cent more time in the cab, and to remove all current working agreements in the name of ‘flexibility and efficiency’.”
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Post by matthieu1221 on Mar 31, 2024 13:05:56 GMT
Is there an overtime ban today? Russell Square, Arsenal closed due to staff shortages. Central, District, Jubilee, Northern & Piccadilly affected by train cancellations (discounting the Central which is likely due to rolling stock more than anything else).
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 31, 2024 14:19:26 GMT
LU trainstaff are not permitted to work overtime unless train is late at finishing, the shortage would be staff failing to report for duty.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 1, 2024 12:43:43 GMT
LU trainstaff are not permitted to work overtime unless train is late at finishing, the shortage would be staff failing to report for duty. Why are they not allowed to work overtime
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Post by towerman on Apr 1, 2024 17:18:36 GMT
Train crew haven’t worked overtime for years,would think it was agreed with unions,other grades I think they can’t work more than twelve shifts in a fortnight.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Apr 1, 2024 17:41:07 GMT
Prior to implementation of Company Plan and salaried status in 1992, Sundays could be handed ‘over the counter’ as they were weren’t compulsory and there would be many volunteers to snap up double time pay! Trainstaff are very heavily regulated by driving hours etc and these are very difficult to break.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 1, 2024 19:29:10 GMT
Train crew haven’t worked overtime for years,would think it was agreed with unions,other grades I think they can’t work more than twelve shifts in a fortnight. Was confused as I am sure I have heard many times on National rail overtime or rest day working bans.
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Post by george on Apr 1, 2024 19:56:52 GMT
Train crew haven’t worked overtime for years,would think it was agreed with unions,other grades I think they can’t work more than twelve shifts in a fortnight. Was confused as I am sure I have heard many times on National rail overtime or rest day working bans. Yeah it's strange how national rail you can do as much overtime as you like but tube you can't. As pointed out sounds like it's a historic thing that can't be changed.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 1, 2024 20:19:56 GMT
Far too much red tape on the railways that I would never understand. i.e. unions did not want guards removed from Southern trains and some other services, but then allowed it to happen many years ago on the much busier Underground network. Underground dwell times at stations are very quick, door operation can be less than 10 seconds as per a bus. On National rail it is drawn out, minimum seems to be around 15 seconds, the norm is 20-30 seconds.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Apr 1, 2024 20:29:26 GMT
Far too much red tape on the railways that I would never understand. i.e. unions did not want guards removed from Southern trains and some other services, but then allowed it to happen many years ago on the much busier Underground network. Underground dwell times at stations are very quick, door operation can be less than 10 seconds as per a bus. On National rail it is drawn out, minimum seems to be around 15 seconds, the norm is 20-30 seconds. Seems to be a case both on National Rail and London Underground where staff don't actually want to do much work and just want to be paid extortionate fees for either standing in one place or to be sat down every day. The minute you try and get them to do anything to justify their wage they strike.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 2, 2024 9:14:35 GMT
Far too much red tape on the railways that I would never understand. i.e. unions did not want guards removed from Southern trains and some other services, but then allowed it to happen many years ago on the much busier Underground network. Underground dwell times at stations are very quick, door operation can be less than 10 seconds as per a bus. On National rail it is drawn out, minimum seems to be around 15 seconds, the norm is 20-30 seconds. Seems to be a case both on National Rail and London Underground where staff don't actually want to do much work and just want to be paid extortionate fees for either standing in one place or to be sat down every day. The minute you try and get them to do anything to justify their wage they strike. It is a minority of them. Some practices yes are called for, but others are very questionable and it is one of the reasons why the public hates them
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Apr 2, 2024 9:16:54 GMT
Seems to be a case both on National Rail and London Underground where staff don't actually want to do much work and just want to be paid extortionate fees for either standing in one place or to be sat down every day. The minute you try and get them to do anything to justify their wage they strike. It is a minority of them. Some practices yes are called for, but others are very questionable and it is one of the reasons why the public hates them I have to say I have never come across a group of workers so universally hated by the public from across all backgrounds and classes.
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