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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 25, 2017 23:09:37 GMT
It did but in place of the 15. I wonder if capacity could be maintained between Marble Arch and Paddington in place of the 15/159, 436 and potentially the 23 by extending the 137 to Paddington.
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Post by COBO on Jun 25, 2017 23:10:06 GMT
If the 23 was to be withdrawn east of Paddington that would leave only the 139 linking Oxford Street and Aldwych. Changed days from the 6, 13, 15, 23, 139 and 176 aswell as the 7 as the only Paddington to Oxford Street route again down from 7, 15, 23. I wonder how long that link between Oxford Circus and Aldwych / Paddington will last? When Oxford Street is pedestrianised will the 139 and the 7 still be going between Oxford Circus and Aldwych / Paddington or will these links be lost.
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 25, 2017 23:16:38 GMT
I would send the 139 via Marylebone Road and Portland Place to maintain atleast and Oxford Circus to Strand link.
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Post by rmz19 on Jun 25, 2017 23:36:15 GMT
If the 23 was to be withdrawn east of Paddington that would leave only the 139 linking Oxford Street and Aldwych. Changed days from the 6, 13, 15, 23, 139 and 176 aswell as the 7 as the only Paddington to Oxford Street route again down from 7, 15, 23. I wonder how long that link between Oxford Circus and Aldwych / Paddington will last? When Oxford Street is pedestrianised will the 139 and the 7 still be going between Oxford Circus and Aldwych / Paddington or will these links be lost. If the pedestrianisation goes ahead then it's safe to say the remaining routes between Oxford Circus and Marble Arch i.e. 7/10/94/98/113/137/139/159/390 - with the exception of the 23 as it will be restructured - will either be curtailed to the aforementioned areas or rerouted. The 7, 113 and 137 will perhaps terminate at Marble Arch, the 159 may terminate at Oxford Circus and the remaining five routes will possibly be distributed between Wigmore Street and Marylebone Road.
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Post by COBO on Jun 25, 2017 23:48:34 GMT
I wonder how long that link between Oxford Circus and Aldwych / Paddington will last? When Oxford Street is pedestrianised will the 139 and the 7 still be going between Oxford Circus and Aldwych / Paddington or will these links be lost. If the pedestrianisation goes ahead then it's safe to say the remaining routes between Oxford Circus and Marble Arch i.e. 7/10/94/98/113/137/139/159/390 - with the exception of the 23 as it will be restructured - will either be curtailed to the aforementioned areas or rerouted. The 7, 113 and 137 will perhaps terminate at Marble Arch, the 159 may terminate at Oxford Circus and the remaining five routes will possibly be distributed between Wigmore Street and Marylebone Road. That's if bus routes can go along Wigmore Street and the other problem is that TfL don't want to over load roads with to many routes when they do decide to divert the routes away from Oxford Circus.
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Post by COBO on Jun 26, 2017 0:22:49 GMT
Bayswater Road needs another route along it or extend the 274 or Notting Hill Gate to pick up the people left behind the 94 and 148. I wonder why TFL didn't think about put a replacement for the 390. It's already been said by many here that TfL think that the 94 and 148 are sufficient. Whether they will be proved right is another story. We shall see. After seeing overloaded 94s and 148s going along Bayswater Road it doesn't look too good but it's early days.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 26, 2017 0:38:21 GMT
I wonder how long that link between Oxford Circus and Aldwych / Paddington will last? When Oxford Street is pedestrianised will the 139 and the 7 still be going between Oxford Circus and Aldwych / Paddington or will these links be lost. If the pedestrianisation goes ahead then it's safe to say the remaining routes between Oxford Circus and Marble Arch i.e. 7/10/94/98/113/137/139/159/390 - with the exception of the 23 as it will be restructured - will either be curtailed to the aforementioned areas or rerouted. The 7, 113 and 137 will perhaps terminate at Marble Arch, the 159 may terminate at Oxford Circus and the remaining five routes will possibly be distributed between Wigmore Street and Marylebone Road. I'm still very sceptical anything will run along Wigmore Street as it would simply anger the pompus idiots who live along there - I suspect TfL will try to avoid running anything down there at all costs and instead curtail nearly everything and chuck a couple of routes to Marylebone Road and maybe one more to Piccadilly. The 7, 113 & 137 look certainly likely they will terminate at Marble Arch as does the 159 at Oxford Circus - my hunch is the 98 & 139 gets pushed to Marylebone Road & the 94 to Piccadilly. The 10, 189 & 390 I'm less certain about - I could maybe see the 189 extended to Hyde Park Corner at a push and maybe the 10 re-routed via Marylebone Road as far as Warren Street, then dropping down to Great Russell Square.
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Post by COBO on Jun 26, 2017 1:06:43 GMT
If the pedestrianisation goes ahead then it's safe to say the remaining routes between Oxford Circus and Marble Arch i.e. 7/10/94/98/113/137/139/159/390 - with the exception of the 23 as it will be restructured - will either be curtailed to the aforementioned areas or rerouted. The 7, 113 and 137 will perhaps terminate at Marble Arch, the 159 may terminate at Oxford Circus and the remaining five routes will possibly be distributed between Wigmore Street and Marylebone Road. I'm still very sceptical anything will run along Wigmore Street as it would simply anger the pompus idiots who live along there - I suspect TfL will try to avoid running anything down there at all costs and instead curtail nearly everything and chuck a couple of routes to Marylebone Road and maybe one more to Piccadilly. The 7, 113 & 137 look certainly likely they will terminate at Marble Arch as does the 159 at Oxford Circus - my hunch is the 98 & 139 gets pushed to Marylebone Road & the 94 to Piccadilly. The 10, 189 & 390 I'm less certain about - I could maybe see the 189 extended to Hyde Park Corner at a push and maybe the 10 re-routed via Marylebone Road as far as Warren Street, then dropping down to Great Russell Square. I always thought that the 10 could be rerouted between Tottenham Court Road and Hyde Park Corner and diverted via the 14. And have the 390 go via Marylebone Road. If wasn't for the Routemaster I would have diverted the 137 to Paddington. Removing the bus routes from Oxford Street was always going to be difficult process. The question is where do you all the routes without over loading roads or the bus stands.
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Post by sid on Jun 26, 2017 7:29:57 GMT
If the pedestrianisation goes ahead then it's safe to say the remaining routes between Oxford Circus and Marble Arch i.e. 7/10/94/98/113/137/139/159/390 - with the exception of the 23 as it will be restructured - will either be curtailed to the aforementioned areas or rerouted. The 7, 113 and 137 will perhaps terminate at Marble Arch, the 159 may terminate at Oxford Circus and the remaining five routes will possibly be distributed between Wigmore Street and Marylebone Road. I'm still very sceptical anything will run along Wigmore Street as it would simply anger the pompus idiots who live along there - I suspect TfL will try to avoid running anything down there at all costs and instead curtail nearly everything and chuck a couple of routes to Marylebone Road and maybe one more to Piccadilly. The 7, 113 & 137 look certainly likely they will terminate at Marble Arch as does the 159 at Oxford Circus - my hunch is the 98 & 139 gets pushed to Marylebone Road & the 94 to Piccadilly. The 10, 189 & 390 I'm less certain about - I could maybe see the 189 extended to Hyde Park Corner at a push and maybe the 10 re-routed via Marylebone Road as far as Warren Street, then dropping down to Great Russell Square. It's business's that don't want Wigmore Street clogged up with buses and understandably so, I think there is scope for one or two routes to use it though.
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 26, 2017 9:51:23 GMT
The 137 is being cut to Marble Arch in a few weeks and the 189 already runs there.
As for Bayswater Road if capacity become an issue the 137 could run along it to help the 94 and 148.
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Post by portman227 on Jun 26, 2017 11:07:41 GMT
Has it been confirmed the date when the 3 gets extended to Russel Square or it hasnt been approved as of yet?
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 26, 2017 11:31:11 GMT
I don't think so. It's being pulled back to Piccadilly to the current 22 stand so the C2 can take its place on Conduit Street. My guess would be it may be delayed till all roadworks around Tottenham Court Road are completed. Unless of course the Piccadilly stand is taken by the 14 as it has been suggested.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 26, 2017 13:20:55 GMT
I'm still very sceptical anything will run along Wigmore Street as it would simply anger the pompus idiots who live along there - I suspect TfL will try to avoid running anything down there at all costs and instead curtail nearly everything and chuck a couple of routes to Marylebone Road and maybe one more to Piccadilly. The 7, 113 & 137 look certainly likely they will terminate at Marble Arch as does the 159 at Oxford Circus - my hunch is the 98 & 139 gets pushed to Marylebone Road & the 94 to Piccadilly. The 10, 189 & 390 I'm less certain about - I could maybe see the 189 extended to Hyde Park Corner at a push and maybe the 10 re-routed via Marylebone Road as far as Warren Street, then dropping down to Great Russell Square. It's business's that don't want Wigmore Street clogged up with buses and understandably so, I think there is scope for one or two routes to use it though. I'm pretty sure residents are involved as well.
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Post by routew15 on Jun 28, 2017 12:48:54 GMT
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Post by snoggle on Jun 28, 2017 13:34:44 GMT
Well that confirms the 23 will be hacked back in two stages. It also confirms a N23 will still run to Aldwych even when the day 23 runs to Lancaster Gate. Nonplussed as to what the "further change to the 25" is for early Spring 2017??? Do they mean early Spring 2018? The 3 is delayed in reaching Russell Square until Dec 2018 which means they are keeping it away from the TCR gyratory removal works. The rest of the replies are rather blasé in their tone. Is Marie Antoinette now in charge of replies? "Let them change buses" being the new variant of "let them eat cake". [1] [1] and yes it is said that Marie A never uttered the famous phrase but let's just let it stand for the comic effect.
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