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Post by planesandtrains on Jun 10, 2017 21:15:21 GMT
Let's vote for Lord Buckethead in the next election 😃😃😃 Or Mr. Fishfinger who stood in Tim Farrons constituency  |
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Post by 725DYE on Jun 10, 2017 23:05:06 GMT
Let's vote for Lord Buckethead in the next election 😃😃😃 Or Mr. Fishfinger who stood in Tim Farrons constituency He had over 300 votes as well! |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 11, 2017 0:18:41 GMT
Or Mr. Fishfinger who stood in Tim Farrons constituency He had over 300 votes as well! He gets my vote - can't go wrong with a fishfinger  |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 11, 2017 12:47:20 GMT
One thing I hope comes out of this election, is that we don't need another one in the next few months. Many politicians are calling for another one and frankly I've had enough of this
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Post by planesandtrains on Jun 11, 2017 13:38:14 GMT
I personally think there will be another election, I have a feeling that the agreement between the Conservatives and DUP will be too unstable. If there is another election then I am thinking Corbyn might get through, either with a slim majority or a hung parliament with SNP/Lib Dem/Green.
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Post by snoggle on Jun 11, 2017 14:07:43 GMT
One thing I hope comes out of this election, is that we don't need another one in the next few months. Many politicians are calling for another one and frankly I've had enough of this I think the politicians know people are fed up with repeated elections. However given the parlous state Mrs May finds herself in another election may be unavoidable if the govt can't get votes through the house. The more likely result in another election will be a firmer vote one way or the other. Far, far too many people are getting ludicrously excited about the prospect of another election going in favour of the Labour Party. I'm sceptical about that unless things change hugely in Scotland and parts of the north / midlands where the Tories made gains or held on. The electoral maths for Labour to form a government on their own are still very, very difficult. Any sign of pre-election stitch ups between Labour and the SNP will cause further tremors in Scotland and not to either party's advantage. I think talk of an indy referendum anytime soon has annoyed a lot of Scots hence the Tory's gains there. Without those seats Mrs May would be in even worse straits. There is also the not insignificant issue of blowing another £130m on another election and whether the parties can raise sufficient funds to fight another campaign. Unfortunately I think we will be trudging back to the polling booths within 12 months because the "arrangement" with the DUP is coming under ever growing pressure even before the Parliamentary session starts. I can't see it lasting given the spotlight that is now being shone on the state of affairs in NI and the danger the Good Friday Agreement is in. The prospect of NI peace breaking down will bring international pressure never mind domestic concerns. Brexit just adds another nightmare-ish dimension to NI issues. |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 11, 2017 14:48:58 GMT
I personally think there will be another election, I have a feeling that the agreement between the Conservatives and DUP will be too unstable. If there is another election then I am thinking Corbyn might get through, either with a slim majority or a hung parliament with SNP/Lib Dem/Green. That result would be just as bad as now, possibly even slightly worse. Currently, we have ten horrid DUP members with possible potential terrorist sympathiser links propping up a terrible Tory minority government - imagine how bad it would be having the let's tear the United Kingdom apart SNP backing the terrorist sympathiser that is Corbyn with his backwards 1970's style policies he wants to wield out, alongside the IRA fan club that is Sinn Fein. As a long time Labour supporter, it's incredibly sad to see the stupidity we have on offer and how the young, great to see voting in numbers (one of just two positives in the election, the other being higher turnout than normal), were blinded by the many flaws but had no option really at the same time. |
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Post by mondraker275 on Jun 11, 2017 16:08:03 GMT
One thing I hope comes out of this election, is that we don't need another one in the next few months. Many politicians are calling for another one and frankly I've had enough of this Agree. I dont get the difference between this and the referendum. After the latter, the message was the people have chosen, we must deliver on it, we will not have a second referendum.. This should be the same, the people have chosen that no one should lead. Another election does not guarantee a change. Although as mentioned, Mr Fishfinger and Buckethead may get even more votes the second time around. |
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Post by John tuthill on Jun 11, 2017 16:20:06 GMT
I personally think there will be another election, I have a feeling that the agreement between the Conservatives and DUP will be too unstable. If there is another election then I am thinking Corbyn might get through, either with a slim majority or a hung parliament with SNP/Lib Dem/Green. I wondered when the results were coming through whether Corbyn had a 'Clegg moment.' All the young students were voting for him, did he think:"All the students voting for me, because I promised to get rid of students fees. Thats £10 billion I've got to find!"  |
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Post by snoggle on Jun 11, 2017 17:05:04 GMT
I personally think there will be another election, I have a feeling that the agreement between the Conservatives and DUP will be too unstable. If there is another election then I am thinking Corbyn might get through, either with a slim majority or a hung parliament with SNP/Lib Dem/Green. I wondered when the results were coming through whether Corbyn had a 'Clegg moment.' All the young students were voting for him, did he think:"All the students voting for me, because I promised to get rid of students fees. Thats £10 billion I've got to find!" Doubtful. I expect Mr Corbyn has long opposed fees so would be happy to find the money. People may hate his views / policies but he's been at this game a long time now and knows how to campaign. He also talks to real people as opposed to staged "rallies" like Mrs May. I really do think that if there were any Tory strategists involved [1] in planning this election they forgot this. [1] also doubtful given the parlous final result for Mrs May and the Tory party more widely. Yes they "won" but not in the way they hoped. |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 11, 2017 17:15:29 GMT
One thing I hope comes out of this election, is that we don't need another one in the next few months. Many politicians are calling for another one and frankly I've had enough of this Agree. I dont get the difference between this and the referendum. After the latter, the message was the people have chosen, we must deliver on it, we will not have a second referendum.. This should be the same, the people have chosen that no one should lead. Another election does not guarantee a change. Although as mentioned, Mr Fishfinger and Buckethead may get even more votes the second time around. Indeed, it really annoyed me when various people began popping up on TV asking to have a second referendum - if we were to re-run the Brexit referendum again, then it wouldn't be democracy which is the very thing politicians keep bleating on about trying to protect and uphold. It was the same with the presidential election - I loathe Donald Trump but sadly that's what America voted for so it annoys me again that people are asking for another presidential election. The only way that could happen is if Trump is found to have rigged the election in his favour in which case a re-run would then become plausible but I doubt we'll ever really know what went on there anyway As for Mr Fishfinger & Buckethead, don't forget that the Monster Raving Looney party are also still about - just imagine if any of those three were actually elected |
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Post by snoggle on Jun 11, 2017 17:26:56 GMT
Chris Grayling remains as Secretary of State for Transport - unfortunately.
On the subject of "daft" candidates I saw Lord Buckethead's manifesto on Twitter the other day. In amongst the nonsense there were 2 or 3 reasonable policies including candidates for a constituency having had to have lived in the constituency for 5 years before being eligible. That would improve matters no end and stop the "helicopter in a candidate" trick played by all the main parties. Might narrow down the field a bit but would ensure candidates at least had some local political roots. Obviously a fair number of MPs have been local councillors before but not all of them.
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Post by ServerKing on Jun 11, 2017 19:55:38 GMT
I personally think there will be another election, I have a feeling that the agreement between the Conservatives and DUP will be too unstable. If there is another election then I am thinking Corbyn might get through, either with a slim majority or a hung parliament with SNP/Lib Dem/Green. Not strong and stable?  Daily Fail says the vultures are circling already, they will toy with May the same way a cat half kills a bird for fun. DUP didn't even say yes plus they are not so "inclusive"... Corbyn will wreck the Queens Speech by not voting on it, along with other Tories who want her gone. She will hope to cobble together something with DUP, while Corbyn predictably yells at her to resign tomorrow across the despatch box in the Commons tomorrow... In fairness if somehow Labour get in, there will be no re nationalism of the railway, the franchise system is too complex to take apart. I suggest a TfL style system of one livery for BR but any operator such as Arriva or Virgin. Simplified fares would be better too.  |
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Post by sid on Jun 12, 2017 5:29:08 GMT
Agree. I dont get the difference between this and the referendum. After the latter, the message was the people have chosen, we must deliver on it, we will not have a second referendum.. This should be the same, the people have chosen that no one should lead. Another election does not guarantee a change. Although as mentioned, Mr Fishfinger and Buckethead may get even more votes the second time around. Indeed, it really annoyed me when various people began popping up on TV asking to have a second referendum - if we were to re-run the Brexit referendum again, then it wouldn't be democracy which is the very thing politicians keep bleating on about trying to protect and uphold. It was the same with the presidential election - I loathe Donald Trump but sadly that's what America voted for so it annoys me again that people are asking for another presidential election. The only way that could happen is if Trump is found to have rigged the election in his favour in which case a re-run would then become plausible but I doubt we'll ever really know what went on there anyway As for Mr Fishfinger & Buckethead, don't forget that the Monster Raving Looney party are also still about - just imagine if any of those three were actually elected I totally agree, I think it was only the Lib Dems who seriously proposed another referendum on Brexit and they came nowhere, most people have accepted it and those that can't or won't really are clutching at straws. The same with Donald Trump, he's obviously something of a 'marmite character' but how on earth people can protest because a democratic election didn't produce the result they wanted is beyond me. |
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Post by mondraker275 on Jun 12, 2017 18:11:06 GMT
Chris Grayling remains as Secretary of State for Transport - unfortunately. On the subject of "daft" candidates I saw Lord Buckethead's manifesto on Twitter the other day. In amongst the nonsense there were 2 or 3 reasonable policies including candidates for a constituency having had to have lived in the constituency for 5 years before being eligible. That would improve matters no end and stop the "helicopter in a candidate" trick played by all the main parties. Might narrow down the field a bit but would ensure candidates at least had some local political roots. Obviously a fair number of MPs have been local councillors before but not all of them. After all, we are essentially voting for our local MP rather than the PM, it is their names we are ticking, so they should understand the local area. On the other hand once elected, they will soon know about the local area after the 5 years anyway I guess. If this policy did exist would then Mr Buckethead not been eligible to run in Maidenhead???  (The buckethead emoji) |
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