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Post by MKAY315 on Oct 25, 2022 7:58:58 GMT
If the delays are minimal will you eat your words š? I would eat the rails instead; and maybe a pantograph *sighs* |
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Post by kmkcheng on Oct 25, 2022 21:06:55 GMT
With Platform space going to be freed up at Liverpool Street and Paddington. By Western Region and East Anglos have many branch lines, I wonder if it is possible to bring these into London. For Liverpool Street. Southminster Harwich Sudbury Lowestoft Bury St Edmunds For Paddington Greenford Henley Marlow Windsor &;Eton Newbury (Reading terminators) Basingstoke Even though platform space is freed up, pathing space on the rest of the line hasnāt been freed up. I believe the line west of Paddington will eventually get a more intense service in the near future, so definitely no room for more services from branch lines and stations beyond Reading |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 25, 2022 22:10:41 GMT
With Platform space going to be freed up at Liverpool Street and Paddington. By Western Region and East Anglos have many branch lines, I wonder if it is possible to bring these into London. For Liverpool Street. Southminster Harwich Sudbury Lowestoft Bury St Edmunds For Paddington Greenford Henley Marlow Windsor &;Eton Newbury (Reading terminators) Basingstoke Platforms at Liverpool Street will still be used for the planned 2tph in the peaks though that should only be one platform. Others I'm hearing additional space will be created for the May 2023 timetable as TfL requested space provision for increasing the Southbury loop lines frequency. I can only see the space at Liverpool Street possibly used by Bethnal Green lines or maybe GA lines from Lea Bridge via Stratford if it does not have to cross the TfL rail lines. From November timetable I am sure I saw a handful of arrivals in the morning terminating at Liverpool St mainline. The evening only 2 departures, then the last train to Shenfield would depart from there. |
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Post by wirewiper on Oct 26, 2022 7:08:48 GMT
Platforms at Liverpool Street will still be used for the planned 2tph in the peaks though that should only be one platform. Others I'm hearing additional space will be created for the May 2023 timetable as TfL requested space provision for increasing the Southbury loop lines frequency. I can only see the space at Liverpool Street possibly used by Bethnal Green lines or maybe GA lines from Lea Bridge via Stratford if it does not have to cross the TfL rail lines. From November timetable I am sure I saw a handful of arrivals in the morning terminating at Liverpool St mainline. The evening only 2 departures, then the last train to Shenfield would depart from there. There certainly won't be any extra trains into Paddington from the Great Western branches, there simply isn't the line capacity to add any more. There is considerable freight traffic on the Western section. From the East, I understand that there is a proposal to increase the capacity of the London Overground and Lea Valley Lines by eliminating most of the crossover moves at Bethnal Green, and by rerouting trains that currently use the Great Eastern main line onto the lines currently used by TfL Rail somewhere west of Stratford. |
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Post by WH241 on Oct 29, 2022 11:11:01 GMT
Timetables for the November changes are below
And December
Us on the Abbey Wood branch end up with a less frequent service but that was always the plan.
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Post by borneobus on Oct 29, 2022 11:26:21 GMT
Timetables for the November changes are below
And December
Us on the Abbey Wood branch end up with a less frequent service but that was always the plan.
Many thanks for sharing this WH241 - what a game-changer this is - even though it's only confirmation of what we already knew it's exciting to see this 'timetabled' - to be able to travel direct from West London to Woolwich or (with a three minute connection at Bond St) to Romford is brilliant. For info, both your links are 06NOV-10DEC Thanks again for posting. |
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Post by WH241 on Oct 29, 2022 11:53:30 GMT
Timetables for the November changes are below
And December
Us on the Abbey Wood branch end up with a less frequent service but that was always the plan.
Many thanks for sharing this WH241 - what a game-changer this is - even though it's only confirmation of what we already knew it's exciting to see this 'timetabled' - to be able to travel direct from West London to Woolwich or (with a three minute connection at Bond St) to Romford is brilliant. For info, both your links are 06NOV-10DEC Thanks again for posting. No problem!
December link updated
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Post by MKAY315 on Oct 29, 2022 13:16:38 GMT
Timetables for the November changes are below
And December
Us on the Abbey Wood branch end up with a less frequent service but that was always the plan.
doing the Lord's work here with this timetable. Thank you |
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Post by ThinLizzy on Oct 29, 2022 13:46:44 GMT
With Platform space going to be freed up at Liverpool Street and Paddington. By Western Region and East Anglos have many branch lines, I wonder if it is possible to bring these into London. For Liverpool Street. Southminster Harwich Sudbury Lowestoft Bury St Edmunds For Paddington Greenford Henley Marlow Windsor &;Eton Newbury (Reading terminators) Basingstoke it doesn't really free up that many paths on the GEML for many more trains to run- remember any additional trains into LST on the GEML would have to fit it around current passenger and freight services. There was plans to run LST to Lowestoft and Bury St Edmunds using class 755s, but that was pre-covid. Also have to consider if there are enough units in the current GA/LO fleet to run these additional services In addition, the junction onto the Sudbury line heads towards Colchester, so Sudbury trains would not be able to reach LST without reversing somewhere north of Marks Tey |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 29, 2022 21:28:00 GMT
Timetables for the November changes are below
And December
Us on the Abbey Wood branch end up with a less frequent service but that was always the plan.
It has been up for the past 2 weeks. I saw the misery of it, especially the just 2 peak journeys to Liverpool Street mainline and the first and last train terminating there. |
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Post by WH241 on Oct 29, 2022 21:31:35 GMT
Timetables for the November changes are below
And December
Us on the Abbey Wood branch end up with a less frequent service but that was always the plan.
It has been up for the past 2 weeks. I saw the misery of it, especially the just 2 peak journeys to Liverpool Street mainline and the first and last train terminating there. I really donāt understand why you are so against it? Itās going to really be a game changer especially for passengers heading further west than Liverpool Street! It will also take pressure off the Central Line from Stratford. The line has been a big success on the Abbey Wood branch and expect the same when the next stage opens. At least give it a chance. |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 30, 2022 2:32:35 GMT
It has been up for the past 2 weeks. I saw the misery of it, especially the just 2 peak journeys to Liverpool Street mainline and the first and last train terminating there. I really donāt understand why you are so against it? Itās going to really be a game changer especially for passengers heading further west than Liverpool Street! It will also take pressure off the Central Line from Stratford. The line has been a big success on the Abbey Wood branch and expect the same when the next stage opens. At least give it a chance. Because he has some sort of agenda against the western section of Crossrail whilst conveniently forgetting how bad the eastern part was under TfL Rail as told to myself by many local users from the Romford & Harold Wood areas who struggled to rely on the service. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 30, 2022 7:37:36 GMT
I really donāt understand why you are so against it? Itās going to really be a game changer especially for passengers heading further west than Liverpool Street! It will also take pressure off the Central Line from Stratford. The line has been a big success on the Abbey Wood branch and expect the same when the next stage opens. At least give it a chance. Because he has some sort of agenda against the western section of Crossrail whilst conveniently forgetting how bad the eastern part was under TfL Rail as told to myself by many local users from the Romford & Harold Wood areas who struggled to rely on the service. And how much years ago was that. Most of that was the end of Greater Anglia, WAGN etc term and the start of TfL Rail. Since 2017, the line has been improved massively. The western part has stayed the same abysmal service as what the TfL Rail used to be like. |
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Post by M1104 on Oct 30, 2022 9:35:38 GMT
Ok i'm hardly clued up on the Elizabeth Line (it not serving South West London) but does this mean Heathrow Airport now has three train services from London, the other two being the Paddington Express and the Piccadilly Line?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 30, 2022 9:44:16 GMT
Ok i'm hardly clued up on the Elizabeth Line (it not serving South West London) but does this mean Heathrow Airport now has three train services from London, the other two being the Paddington Express and the Piccadilly Line? It has been three since Heathrow Connect was launched in 2006, which later became TfL Rail and now Elizabeth Line |
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