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Post by WH241 on Dec 3, 2022 20:18:55 GMT
It’s been nearly a month since they joined up the East side to the core. From observations the pros are that it is definitely a success as the trains are heaving full mainly being the Abbey Wood / Heathrow / Reading section trains. The cons is the West Side seems to be doing worst than the East Side riddled with delays or trains bypassing certain stops. This is my own observation. I’ve also noticed the Central Line seems to be less crowded. I’m looking forward to the Shenfield line going further than Paddington as it will spread the passengers out. Some trains are scheduled to miss stops on the western side - have you taken that into account? I noticed this on my train that was heading for Maidenhead today.
The TfL status page shows minor delays due to a fault train earlier. I wonder if this is why there was Shenfield trains 3 mins apart when I used the service earlier. Abbey Wood trains was similar with less than 5 min gaps. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Dec 3, 2022 20:32:33 GMT
Some trains are scheduled to miss stops on the western side - have you taken that into account? I noticed this on my train that was heading for Maidenhead today.
The TfL status page shows minor delays due to a fault train earlier. I wonder if this is why there was Shenfield trains 3 mins apart when I used the service earlier. Abbey Wood trains was similar with less than 5 min gaps. The Shenfield services are often like this, sometimes you get three in a row each a minute apart and then none for ages after. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Dec 3, 2022 21:52:30 GMT
Can't see it happening the same way London Overground doesn't operate and don't think it should tbh let everyone have two days off . As mentioned earlier, London Overground are operating Highbury & Isington-West Croydon on Boxing Day 26 December. Would that be, because it should be the East London line, although surprised it is going as far as West Croydon |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Dec 3, 2022 21:59:31 GMT
It’s been nearly a month since they joined up the East side to the core. From observations the pros are that it is definitely a success as the trains are heaving full mainly being the Abbey Wood / Heathrow / Reading section trains. The cons is the West Side seems to be doing worst than the East Side riddled with delays or trains bypassing certain stops. This is my own observation. I’ve also noticed the Central Line seems to be less crowded. I’m looking forward to the Shenfield line going further than Paddington as it will spread the passengers out. The Shenfield line seems to be full as well. Also there is no longer a mass evacuation at Stratford on Central London bound trains. As people used to get off there for Central and Jubilee (as well as other trains). At times, more people alighted there than the Liverpool St terminus, the same could be said in evenings with people getting on at Stratford. I have noticed the train speed at certain locations is slower. From Maryland to Stratford is slow now, don't know why. Also leaving Stratford towards the new tunnels is no way as fast as it used to be. The approach to Stratford emerging from the tunnels is not as fast either. I remember there used to be some very impressive fast speed journeys to Liverpool St terminus, would miss them. On another note I thought the 315's were meant to finish a month ago. I noticed 2 still seemed to be stationed at ilford Hill sidings. Last journey in service saw was Friday 25th November morning. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Dec 3, 2022 22:02:57 GMT
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Post by MKAY315 on Dec 3, 2022 22:05:20 GMT
It’s been nearly a month since they joined up the East side to the core. From observations the pros are that it is definitely a success as the trains are heaving full mainly being the Abbey Wood / Heathrow / Reading section trains. The cons is the West Side seems to be doing worst than the East Side riddled with delays or trains bypassing certain stops. This is my own observation. I’ve also noticed the Central Line seems to be less crowded. I’m looking forward to the Shenfield line going further than Paddington as it will spread the passengers out. The Shenfield line seems to be full as well. Also there is no longer a mass evacuation at Stratford on Central London bound trains. As people used to get off there for Central and Jubilee (as well as other trains). At times, more people alighted there than the Liverpool St terminus, the same could be said in evenings with people getting on at Stratford. I have noticed the train speed at certain locations is slower. From Maryland to Stratford is slow now, don't know why. Also leaving Stratford towards the new tunnels is no way as fast as it used to be. The approach to Stratford emerging from the tunnels is not as fast either. I remember there used to be some very impressive fast speed journeys to Liverpool St terminus, would miss them. On another note I thought the 315's were meant to finish a month ago. I noticed 2 still seemed to be stationed at ilford Hill sidings. Last journey in service saw was Friday 25th November morning. This forum will probably explain all |
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Post by routew15 on Dec 3, 2022 23:09:58 GMT
It’s been nearly a month since they joined up the East side to the core. From observations the pros are that it is definitely a success as the trains are heaving full mainly being the Abbey Wood / Heathrow / Reading section trains. The cons is the West Side seems to be doing worst than the East Side riddled with delays or trains bypassing certain stops. This is my own observation. I’ve also noticed the Central Line seems to be less crowded. I’m looking forward to the Shenfield line going further than Paddington as it will spread the passengers out. The Shenfield line seems to be full as well. Also there is no longer a mass evacuation at Stratford on Central London bound trains. As people used to get off there for Central and Jubilee (as well as other trains). At times, more people alighted there than the Liverpool St terminus, the same could be said in evenings with people getting on at Stratford. I have noticed the train speed at certain locations is slower. From Maryland to Stratford is slow now, don't know why. Also leaving Stratford towards the new tunnels is no way as fast as it used to be. The approach to Stratford emerging from the tunnels is not as fast either. I remember there used to be some very impressive fast speed journeys to Liverpool St terminus, would miss them. On another note I thought the 315's were meant to finish a month ago. I noticed 2 still seemed to be stationed at ilford Hill sidings. Last journey in service saw was Friday 25th November morning. I thought the same was quite surprised to see a 315 was still running as recent as the morning of Friday 2nd Dec. Saw it from Platform 3 on my way to work |
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Post by dla314 on Dec 4, 2022 1:47:58 GMT
It’s been nearly a month since they joined up the East side to the core. From observations the pros are that it is definitely a success as the trains are heaving full mainly being the Abbey Wood / Heathrow / Reading section trains. The cons is the West Side seems to be doing worst than the East Side riddled with delays or trains bypassing certain stops. This is my own observation. I’ve also noticed the Central Line seems to be less crowded. I’m looking forward to the Shenfield line going further than Paddington as it will spread the passengers out. The Shenfield line seems to be full as well. Also there is no longer a mass evacuation at Stratford on Central London bound trains. As people used to get off there for Central and Jubilee (as well as other trains). At times, more people alighted there than the Liverpool St terminus, the same could be said in evenings with people getting on at Stratford. I have noticed the train speed at certain locations is slower. From Maryland to Stratford is slow now, don't know why. Also leaving Stratford towards the new tunnels is no way as fast as it used to be. The approach to Stratford emerging from the tunnels is not as fast either. I remember there used to be some very impressive fast speed journeys to Liverpool St terminus, would miss them. On another note I thought the 315's were meant to finish a month ago. I noticed 2 still seemed to be stationed at ilford Hill sidings. Last journey in service saw was Friday 25th November morning. I read somewhere on another forum that the trains are driven deliberately slower from Maryland to Stratford so that the trains are given more time to transition to CBTC. |
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Post by wirewiper on Dec 4, 2022 9:51:12 GMT
The Shenfield line seems to be full as well. Also there is no longer a mass evacuation at Stratford on Central London bound trains. As people used to get off there for Central and Jubilee (as well as other trains). At times, more people alighted there than the Liverpool St terminus, the same could be said in evenings with people getting on at Stratford. I have noticed the train speed at certain locations is slower. From Maryland to Stratford is slow now, don't know why. Also leaving Stratford towards the new tunnels is no way as fast as it used to be. The approach to Stratford emerging from the tunnels is not as fast either. I remember there used to be some very impressive fast speed journeys to Liverpool St terminus, would miss them. On another note I thought the 315's were meant to finish a month ago. I noticed 2 still seemed to be stationed at ilford Hill sidings. Last journey in service saw was Friday 25th November morning. I read somewhere on another forum that the trains are driven deliberately slower from Maryland to Stratford so that the trains are given more time to transition to CBTC. This, and the reversal of trains at Paddington, are still known to have bugs. These are two of the issues that will probably be dealt with during the Christmas-New Year shutdown so that trains can be speeded up in the May 2023 timetable. |
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Post by MKAY315 on Dec 4, 2022 10:36:01 GMT
Has anyone noticed from the Abbey Wood branch when leaving Canary wharf to go to Whitechapel before the crossover it pulls in so slowly as compared to the Shenfield branch in which it pulls in faster?
Why is this?
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Post by dla314 on Dec 5, 2022 2:37:54 GMT
Has anyone noticed from the Abbey Wood branch when leaving Canary wharf to go to Whitechapel before the crossover it pulls in so slowly as compared to the Shenfield branch in which it pulls in faster? Why is this? I've noticed it as well. The trains from Abbey Wood seem to coast into Whitechapel while the trains from Shenfield come in far quicker. Quite annoying to be honest. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Dec 6, 2022 11:07:57 GMT
One advantage I realised, the approach speed into Stratford station platforms is faster, towards Shenfield. I guess this is because it is on CBTC (or whatever they call it). Some of the drivers really used to go so slow into it from Liverpool St
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Post by routew15 on Dec 6, 2022 14:05:17 GMT
One advantage I realised, the approach speed into Stratford station platforms is faster, towards Shenfield. I guess this is because it is on CBTC (or whatever they call it). Some of the drivers really used to go so slow into it from Liverpool St Doors also open automatically on platform 8 but not 5. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Dec 7, 2022 12:30:24 GMT
One advantage I realised, the approach speed into Stratford station platforms is faster, towards Shenfield. I guess this is because it is on CBTC (or whatever they call it). Some of the drivers really used to go so slow into it from Liverpool St Doors also open automatically on platform 8 but not 5. I guess as it is still in CBTC. I took the branch to Abbey Wood yesterday. It was amazing when the train pulls off on CBTC at the outside stations, extremely rapid takeoff, It is rare for many drivers to move off this fast on the Shenfield branch, but I guess it is in manual mode; so some of them do not move off as fast. |
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Post by ServerKing on Dec 8, 2022 4:43:20 GMT
The Shenfield line seems to be full as well. Also there is no longer a mass evacuation at Stratford on Central London bound trains. As people used to get off there for Central and Jubilee (as well as other trains). At times, more people alighted there than the Liverpool St terminus, the same could be said in evenings with people getting on at Stratford. I have noticed the train speed at certain locations is slower. From Maryland to Stratford is slow now, don't know why. Also leaving Stratford towards the new tunnels is no way as fast as it used to be. The approach to Stratford emerging from the tunnels is not as fast either. I remember there used to be some very impressive fast speed journeys to Liverpool St terminus, would miss them. On another note I thought the 315's were meant to finish a month ago. I noticed 2 still seemed to be stationed at ilford Hill sidings. Last journey in service saw was Friday 25th November morning. I thought the same was quite surprised to see a 315 was still running as recent as the morning of Friday 2nd Dec. Saw it from Platform 3 on my way to work Most of the 315's have been dragged to Newport, Wales for scrap. According to Railforums the last 315's run this coming Friday December 9. These are:- 315837 315853 315856 315857 I'd love it if Greater Anglia acquired one (in BR colours) for the Walton on the Naze branch line with its original jointed track  Last train will be the 18:04 Liverpool Street to Gidea Park. I wonder if they'll attempt a fastest speed run like the Underground did with the Metropolitan Line A Stock out of Baker Street years ago?   |
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