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Post by northlondon83 on Jan 16, 2023 13:20:30 GMT
The Elizabeth Line is getting really busy at weekends now! Was a struggle to find a seat from Custom House heading west today and had standing passengers by the time I left the train. On the plus side the Central Line is much more bearable heading back east now! Lots of seats available! The Elizabeth Line is super speedy but think if I’m not in a rush the DLR and Underground is much calmer option. The one thing I don't like about the Elizabeth line is the lack of a mobile phone signal. The sub surface lines are much better because they stick closer to the surface and some stations in central London are completely above ground like Farringdon. There needs to be 4G in the tunnels one day, like on the new section of the Jubilee line |
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Post by wirewiper on Jan 17, 2023 9:00:25 GMT
The Elizabeth Line is performing better than expected, with passenger numbers 3 million above what had been predicted and fares revenue £9 million above target. The increase has been particularly marked since through running began in November and average weekly passenger numbers exceed 3.5 million. The line remains on target to break even in the 2023-2024 Financial Year. Operating performance is still a concern, with the Public Perfomance Measure at a level that will hinder robust operation once the full 24tph service in introduced on 21st May 2023. Of particular concern are issues on the Great Western Main Line, Network Rail is working to fix the problems there. The Central Core tunnels were closed between Christmas and New Year for the major ELR300 software upgrades to the signalling system, and software upgrades for the Central Management System and the Station Management System. A further ELR400 upgrade to the signalling system will take place over the Easter Weekend (7th-10th April), this will deliver the final configuration for the auto-reverse of trains at Paddington. The full timetable is still on schedule to be implemented on 21st May, this will see the full 24tph on the Central Core, increased frequency on the Abbey Wood branch and the end of the temporary pausing of services entering the Central Core from the Great Western Main Line. Source: www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/elizabeth-line-passenger-numbers-beating-forecasts-59999/ |
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Post by routew15 on Jan 17, 2023 17:33:28 GMT
As passenger numbers continue to grow, It will be interesting to see what is done at Whitechapel in terms of overcrowding. In comparison to other stations, it can often feel quite crowded already during the peak hours. The one bank of escalators and one pair of exit tunnels from platform A&B, are not ideal. It would have been good to have two exit tunnels to the one set of escalators but here we are I guess.
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Post by wirewiper on Jan 17, 2023 17:51:48 GMT
As passenger numbers continue to grow, It will be interesting to see what is done at Whitechapel in terms of overcrowding. In comparison to other stations, it can often feel quite crowded already during the peak hours. The one bank of escalators and one pair of exit tunnels from platform A&B, are not ideal. It would have been good to have two exit tunnels to the one set of escalators but here we are I guess. The other issue with Whitechapel is that exiting passengers and passengers interchanging lines all have to leave via the same route. It is possible that Whitechapel is proving more popular than anticipated, especially given that passenger numbers and revenue on the line as a whole are considerably above expectations. Passengers needing to change between the Reading/Heathrow-Abbey Wood and Paddington-Shenfield services have been encouraged to do so at Whitechapel as passenger numbers on the platforms are generally lower than at other Central Core stations. Clearly come next May with the full timetable in operation there will be less need to do this. |
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Post by snowman on Jan 17, 2023 17:58:03 GMT
As passenger numbers continue to grow, It will be interesting to see what is done at Whitechapel in terms of overcrowding. In comparison to other stations, it can often feel quite crowded already during the peak hours. The one bank of escalators and one pair of exit tunnels from platform A&B, are not ideal. It would have been good to have two exit tunnels to the one set of escalators but here we are I guess. The other issue with Whitechapel is that exiting passengers and passengers interchanging lines all have to leave via the same route. It is possible that Whitechapel is proving more popular than anticipated, especially given that passenger numbers and revenue on the line as a whole are considerably above expectations. Passengers needing to change between the Reading/Heathrow-Abbey Wood and Paddington-Shenfield services have been encouraged to do so at Whitechapel as passenger numbers on the platforms are generally lower than at other Central Core stations. Clearly come next May with the full timetable in operation there will be less need to do this. Whole load of new data is available in the TfL Board Elizabeth line committee pack ahead of next weeks meeting board.tfl.gov.uk/documents/g724/Public%20reports%20pack%20Tuesday%2024-Jan-2023%2014.30%20Elizabeth%20Line%20Committee.pdf?T=10 |
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Post by VPL630 on Jan 17, 2023 19:19:59 GMT
As passenger numbers continue to grow, It will be interesting to see what is done at Whitechapel in terms of overcrowding. In comparison to other stations, it can often feel quite crowded already during the peak hours. The one bank of escalators and one pair of exit tunnels from platform A&B, are not ideal. It would have been good to have two exit tunnels to the one set of escalators but here we are I guess. The other issue with Whitechapel is that exiting passengers and passengers interchanging lines all have to leave via the same route. It is possible that Whitechapel is proving more popular than anticipated, especially given that passenger numbers and revenue on the line as a whole are considerably above expectations. Passengers needing to change between the Reading/Heathrow-Abbey Wood and Paddington-Shenfield services have been encouraged to do so at Whitechapel as passenger numbers on the platforms are generally lower than at other Central Core stations. Clearly come next May with the full timetable in operation there will be less need to do this. Just drill some more holes... As a regular user of GA from SNF-SRA and EL from SRA-PAD and then GWR out west, it certainly is bustling and minor delays sometimes cause some crush loads. I don't know what will happen with the Shenfield bound trains, if there is a chance that some will continue past Paddington out west, I'm sure that will reduce crowds at Whitechapel and again at Paddington, ideally Paddington would have 3 platforms so one could always have a train terminating on it without holding the others up. |
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Post by greenboy on Jan 18, 2023 9:26:11 GMT
As passenger numbers continue to grow, It will be interesting to see what is done at Whitechapel in terms of overcrowding. In comparison to other stations, it can often feel quite crowded already during the peak hours. The one bank of escalators and one pair of exit tunnels from platform A&B, are not ideal. It would have been good to have two exit tunnels to the one set of escalators but here we are I guess. The other issue with Whitechapel is that exiting passengers and passengers interchanging lines all have to leave via the same route. It is possible that Whitechapel is proving more popular than anticipated, especially given that passenger numbers and revenue on the line as a whole are considerably above expectations. Passengers needing to change between the Reading/Heathrow-Abbey Wood and Paddington-Shenfield services have been encouraged to do so at Whitechapel as passenger numbers on the platforms are generally lower than at other Central Core stations. Clearly come next May with the full timetable in operation there will be less need to do this. Yes I think Whitechapel is a lot busier than had been anticipated and I guess a lot of people who previously changed at Canada Water onto the Jubilee Line now change at Whitechapel instead. The ELL certainly seems a lot busier, by contrast the Central Line seems a lot quieter. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 18, 2023 10:27:38 GMT
The Elizabeth Line is getting really busy at weekends now! Was a struggle to find a seat from Custom House heading west today and had standing passengers by the time I left the train. On the plus side the Central Line is much more bearable heading back east now! Lots of seats available! The Elizabeth Line is super speedy but think if I’m not in a rush the DLR and Underground is much calmer option. The one thing I don't like about the Elizabeth line is the lack of a mobile phone signal. The sub surface lines are much better because they stick closer to the surface and some stations in central London are completely above ground like Farringdon. There needs to be 4G in the tunnels one day, like on the new section of the Jubilee line You have a lot of signal between Stratford and Shenfield, what more can you ask for |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 18, 2023 10:30:05 GMT
The Elizabeth Line is performing better than expected, with passenger numbers 3 million above what had been predicted and fares revenue £9 million above target. The increase has been particularly marked since through running began in November and average weekly passenger numbers exceed 3.5 million. The line remains on target to break even in the 2023-2024 Financial Year. Operating performance is still a concern, with the Public Perfomance Measure at a level that will hinder robust operation once the full 24tph service in introduced on 21st May 2023. Of particular concern are issues on the Great Western Main Line, Network Rail is working to fix the problems there. The Central Core tunnels were closed between Christmas and New Year for the major ELR300 software upgrades to the signalling system, and software upgrades for the Central Management System and the Station Management System. A further ELR400 upgrade to the signalling system will take place over the Easter Weekend (7th-10th April), this will deliver the final configuration for the auto-reverse of trains at Paddington. The full timetable is still on schedule to be implemented on 21st May, this will see the full 24tph on the Central Core, increased frequency on the Abbey Wood branch and the end of the temporary pausing of services entering the Central Core from the Great Western Main Line. Source: www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/elizabeth-line-passenger-numbers-beating-forecasts-59999/I am glad they have realised the GWR mainline is a cause for concern as i have often mentioned here why the western end service is terrible. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 18, 2023 10:32:47 GMT
As passenger numbers continue to grow, It will be interesting to see what is done at Whitechapel in terms of overcrowding. In comparison to other stations, it can often feel quite crowded already during the peak hours. The one bank of escalators and one pair of exit tunnels from platform A&B, are not ideal. It would have been good to have two exit tunnels to the one set of escalators but here we are I guess. They can explore Cambridge Heath Rd being an entrance/exit. Although it was said this was not done at the time down to cost. |
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Post by enviroPB on Jan 18, 2023 15:25:06 GMT
The Elizabeth Line is getting really busy at weekends now! Was a struggle to find a seat from Custom House heading west today and had standing passengers by the time I left the train. On the plus side the Central Line is much more bearable heading back east now! Lots of seats available! The Elizabeth Line is super speedy but think if I’m not in a rush the DLR and Underground is much calmer option. The one thing I don't like about the Elizabeth line is the lack of a mobile phone signal. The sub surface lines are much better because they stick closer to the surface and some stations in central London are completely above ground like Farringdon. There needs to be 4G in the tunnels one day, like on the new section of the Jubilee line That day that you dream of is projected to be by the end of next year- 2025 was touted for a long time, so TfL are clearly confident about delivering the project earlier than planned. It also has to be noted that there is service on the Central line from Queensway- Holland Park and on the Northern line from Archway- Kentish Town. Check it out if you like. |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jan 18, 2023 22:03:55 GMT
As passenger numbers continue to grow, It will be interesting to see what is done at Whitechapel in terms of overcrowding. In comparison to other stations, it can often feel quite crowded already during the peak hours. The one bank of escalators and one pair of exit tunnels from platform A&B, are not ideal. It would have been good to have two exit tunnels to the one set of escalators but here we are I guess. The other issue with Whitechapel is that exiting passengers and passengers interchanging lines all have to leave via the same route. It is possible that Whitechapel is proving more popular than anticipated, especially given that passenger numbers and revenue on the line as a whole are considerably above expectations. Passengers needing to change between the Reading/Heathrow-Abbey Wood and Paddington-Shenfield services have been encouraged to do so at Whitechapel as passenger numbers on the platforms are generally lower than at other Central Core stations. Clearly come next May with the full timetable in operation there will be less need to do this. I walk to the far end of the eastbound platform and use the lifts to access the Overground platforms which seems to be a hidden secret for most passengers who use the station. |
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Post by northlondon83 on Jan 23, 2023 8:29:22 GMT
The one thing I don't like about the Elizabeth line is the lack of a mobile phone signal. The sub surface lines are much better because they stick closer to the surface and some stations in central London are completely above ground like Farringdon. There needs to be 4G in the tunnels one day, like on the new section of the Jubilee line You have a lot of signal between Stratford and Shenfield, what more can you ask for That bit is above ground, also the bit I don't use. I was talking about Abbey Wood to Paddington, and for some reason it feels like the tunnel section drags on forever |
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Post by rif153 on Jan 23, 2023 11:30:55 GMT
The Elizabeth Line is performing better than expected, with passenger numbers 3 million above what had been predicted and fares revenue £9 million above target. The increase has been particularly marked since through running began in November and average weekly passenger numbers exceed 3.5 million. The line remains on target to break even in the 2023-2024 Financial Year. Operating performance is still a concern, with the Public Perfomance Measure at a level that will hinder robust operation once the full 24tph service in introduced on 21st May 2023. Of particular concern are issues on the Great Western Main Line, Network Rail is working to fix the problems there. The Central Core tunnels were closed between Christmas and New Year for the major ELR300 software upgrades to the signalling system, and software upgrades for the Central Management System and the Station Management System. A further ELR400 upgrade to the signalling system will take place over the Easter Weekend (7th-10th April), this will deliver the final configuration for the auto-reverse of trains at Paddington. The full timetable is still on schedule to be implemented on 21st May, this will see the full 24tph on the Central Core, increased frequency on the Abbey Wood branch and the end of the temporary pausing of services entering the Central Core from the Great Western Main Line. Source: www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/elizabeth-line-passenger-numbers-beating-forecasts-59999/I am glad they have realised the GWR mainline is a cause for concern as i have often mentioned here why the western end service is terrible. Pretty much every Liz line through service I've used to/from Ealing has had a painfully long wait at the tunnel portal and in a few cases on an eastbound train its arrived so early that you end up crawling to Westbourne Park and then still have a five minute wait there. Its a shame it makes using the line less attractive for me, I hope these teething problems are ironed out soon. |
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Post by northlondon83 on Jan 23, 2023 11:31:57 GMT
I am glad they have realised the GWR mainline is a cause for concern as i have often mentioned here why the western end service is terrible. Pretty much every Liz line through service I've used to/from Ealing has had a painfully long wait at the tunnel portal and in a few cases on an eastbound train its arrived so early that you end up crawling to Westbourne Park and then still have a five minute wait there. Its a shame it makes using the line less attractive for me, I hope these teething problems are ironed out soon. I've had that as well, issues for me seem to be more on westbound journeys |
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