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Post by rif153 on Jul 7, 2019 9:50:23 GMT
I know that each of the following routes: 80, 152, 163, 164, 190, 203, 246, 298, 355, 371, 423, A10, D6, U1, U3, H98 all see a mixed allocation of single and double deckers. I would like to do all these routes end to end but with a double decker. So my question is how often do each of the enlisted routes see double deckers? Also there are two routes I forgot to mention - the 200, and 487 |
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Post by beaver14uk on Jul 7, 2019 16:59:32 GMT
I saw DW 455 on the 229 with 301 on the back PA did not seem to have enough buses to run the 90 fully DD for a long time arghhh!! Checked recently though and that seems to have calmed down now. New popular victim is the 173, duh. Oh gosh and U5, E1 and E9. The first being silly common. And one 427 once happened too, c'mon Abellio west!! Old 350 had it happen often as well but was at least blinded… Epsom think it's okay to run an SDE on 406/418 in the rush hour sometimes. Yesterday a DXE did the 406 to spice thigs up. 467 often sees singles but apart from the school run those do fine, actually. Back when I did All The Buses, the first 467 of the day was an OV ☺️ Let's bring up the unforgettable 26 singles as well. Ceased now. Yet 388 never happened! Odd SDs used to happen on all GR DDs - 258, 340 and 142 were all hit! 127 had quite a streak earlier this year bit it does appear to have been resolved. 405 and 119 I know did happen in the past. U4 rarely can see a single-deck do it. 282 used to but not happened in years. 92 had an odd one now that I'm on G. 245 stopped when it moved out of ON. Having left W I don't think DE 32 will be a thing anymore especially that the EW garage does not have any singles! MB did do a lot of singles on 161 ever since it was announced to go, and I also grabbed an OmniTown on the 320 and 353 ☺️ 261 I heard also saw a bunch of singles when announced to go xD At TB you can end up with a single-decker 61 now that I'm here. GY stopped doing it but like 2-3 years back 66 and especially 370 had quite a bit of those. 372 could also see an E200. Yep DT were big sinners, behaved ever since winning 229 but now that they got more routes, old habits returned and so 160 + 229 had quite a bit of sheds show up 😛 401 only had the school peak bus show up as SD so far… 492 can happen but is not as common as I'd like to lol. Wonder if 301 will happen? 😛 EDIT: 269 joins the club at DT... But saw E200s at TB before a long while ago The 492 is less likely because there are no peak buses except for DT 7 which usually uses the 401 school bus. 160 has 3 Peak buses so its not uncommon for a double decker to be nicked. In addition what doesn’t help is when all the spare double deckers get put on the 428 then you see a Single Decker drive past a double decker on the 229. Over the last few weeks there have been enough double deckers, but at least 3-4 on the 428. Hopefully soon they won’t have any need to put a SD on a DD route. 301 probably not as they don’t have blinds only the transferred buses have 301 blinds and a select few from the current allocation from 99, 269 & 401. DW441, 442, 449, 450, 455 & 532 the ones I have seen with new sets fitted. As far as I’m aware no Ts have 301 blinds. 301 only has 1 peak bus DT 230. |
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Post by BK15AZR on Jul 8, 2019 1:41:24 GMT
How often do DDs make it out on to both routes? R9 it's almost daily  126 at least once a week lately? Those are all fairly common. Btw, in case people wondered, there was already a very similar thread in the past so I thought it would be helpful to merge the two  EDIT: Now my estimates are as follows: 80 - at least once a week; 152 - at least once a month, but really random; 163 - always something on weekdays because it has a scheduled SDO decker, but often more than that is out; 164 - AL rarely bother, but when A 50% runs it on sundays, they always throw DOEs out; 190 - at least once a week; 203 - few times a week; 246 - sadly this one took a break and there's not been any DDs since early in the contract back in Sept 2015. It requires another route test to be re-cleared, but the councils relevant are lousy with branch trimming and every time the tests are carried out it marginally fails. Ugh I want deckers on this too! 298 - at least once a month or more; 355 - lately been at least once a week, depends how the WSs are behaving - few times a month is a safer bet; 371 - again has a scheduled DD SDO run - so on weekdays there's usually more than one SP; 423 - random lately but at least once a month I'd say; A10 - bit better odds lately, at least one a month if not more; D6 - from what I've seen, at least once a week; there are some spare Cities off 388 cutback as well; U1 - another increase lately, few times a month atm; U3 - daily as of late; H98 - was almost daily a while back now, few times a week it ought to be; D6 has at least 2-3 DDs (25xx) every day as what I observed over the past couple of weeks. |
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Post by M1104 on Jul 8, 2019 7:45:11 GMT
I wouldn't say I saw that many DDs on the 355. Interestingly, the route had three WVHs on the same day not all that long ago, two of them being in a row. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Jul 8, 2019 8:02:01 GMT
In fairness I'm probably still thinking of the AL days. Time goes so quick. I guess with WHVs from the 119/202/part 405 plus others from the 127 and 405 mean there can be plenty of DDs to substitute if a SD breaks down.
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Post by M1104 on Jul 8, 2019 8:26:03 GMT
In fairness I'm probably still thinking of the AL days. Time goes so quick. I guess with WHVs from the 119/202/part 405 plus others from the 127 and 405 mean there can be plenty of DDs to substitute if a SD breaks down. Certainly during the Merton days it was more rare in comparison to see one on route, especially when it used to go to Brixton via Clapham North where its northbound[1] routing was via Landor Road and Stockwell Green. [1] - southbound was directly from Stockwell Road into Clapham Road at Stockwell station |
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Post by YY13VKP on Jul 8, 2019 8:37:23 GMT
In fairness I'm probably still thinking of the AL days. Time goes so quick. I guess with WHVs from the 119/202/part 405 plus others from the 127 and 405 mean there can be plenty of DDs to substitute if a SD breaks down. It’s mainly because until the 455’s SE’s/SOE’s were upgraded that the WHV’s were the only other ULEZ compliant buses Croydon had that they could use on the 355. You can soon expect to see the E’s making an appearance though once upgraded to Euro VI as they are blinded for it |
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Post by RandomBusesGirl on Jul 8, 2019 13:11:46 GMT
Also there are two routes I forgot to mention - the 200, and 487 200 - found on most weekdays, believe there might be at least one scheduled also; 487 - once a week approximately, sometimes less - basically got to have the DEs acting up for ON to send out a VW In fairness I'm probably still thinking of the AL days. Time goes so quick. I guess with WHVs from the 119/202/part 405 plus others from the 127 and 405 mean there can be plenty of DDs to substitute if a SD breaks down. It’s mainly because until the 455’s SE’s/SOE’s were upgraded that the WHV’s were the only other ULEZ compliant buses Croydon had that they could use on the 355. You can soon expect to see the E’s making an appearance though once upgraded to Euro VI as they are blinded for it Ohhh I thought they were already upgraded! That explains why they still haven't appeared at all. Looking forward to that. ------ As for the previous stuff, I did say they were only estimates, so accuracy might've not always been exactly on point. Also "at least" does carry a message between the lines 190 was a bit of a surprise though, those DMs must be knackered |
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Post by vjaska on Jul 8, 2019 13:34:52 GMT
Also there are two routes I forgot to mention - the 200, and 487 200 - found on most weekdays, believe there might be at least one scheduled also; 487 - once a week approximately, sometimes less - basically got to have the DEs acting up for ON to send out a VW It’s mainly because until the 455’s SE’s/SOE’s were upgraded that the WHV’s were the only other ULEZ compliant buses Croydon had that they could use on the 355. You can soon expect to see the E’s making an appearance though once upgraded to Euro VI as they are blinded for it Ohhh I thought they were already upgraded! That explains why they still haven't appeared at all. Looking forward to that. ------ As for the previous stuff, I did say they were only estimates, so accuracy might've not always been exactly on point. Also "at least" does carry a message between the lines 190 was a bit of a surprise though, those DMs must be knackered I think the 200 has 2 double deckers scheduled? |
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Post by southlondonbus on Jul 8, 2019 13:48:17 GMT
The 355 must be one of the oldest routes to convert from DD to SD and still be using them, having converted in 1992. I know the 80/163/164 went in 1996 but most DD to SD conversions from that time (49/155/319 etc) have all gone back to DD.
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Post by M1104 on Jul 8, 2019 14:39:24 GMT
200 - found on most weekdays, believe there might be at least one scheduled also; 487 - once a week approximately, sometimes less - basically got to have the DEs acting up for ON to send out a VW Ohhh I thought they were already upgraded! That explains why they still haven't appeared at all. Looking forward to that. ------ As for the previous stuff, I did say they were only estimates, so accuracy might've not always been exactly on point. Also "at least" does carry a message between the lines 190 was a bit of a surprise though, those DMs must be knackered I think the 200 has 2 double deckers scheduled? I find them very curious so as to compare alongside my experience of the B7TLs and Tridents. |
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Post by M1104 on Jul 8, 2019 14:42:10 GMT
I think the 200 has 2 double deckers scheduled? I believe it may actually be as much as four now as there was an increase of scheduled deckers over the years from the one. |
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Post by abellion on Jul 12, 2019 18:25:15 GMT
A lot of people talk about the 355 but the 219 used to run Presidents and other decks a lot and now it's only using streetlites (and rarely older buses). It runs with multiple decked routes (57/131, 155, 319, 77) so I always found it weird how the deckers suddenly stopped.
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Post by M1104 on Jul 21, 2019 13:35:01 GMT
A lot of people talk about the 355 but the 219 used to run Presidents and other decks a lot and now it's only using streetlites (and rarely older buses). It runs with multiple decked routes (57/131, 155, 319, 77) so I always found it weird how the deckers suddenly stopped. The newer deckers beyond the B7TLs dont include 219 on their blinds barring the B9TLs that were on loan from Putney, which were fitted with blindsets for single deckers. |
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Post by vjaska on Jul 21, 2019 15:58:07 GMT
A lot of people talk about the 355 but the 219 used to run Presidents and other decks a lot and now it's only using streetlites (and rarely older buses). It runs with multiple decked routes (57/131, 155, 319, 77) so I always found it weird how the deckers suddenly stopped. The rumour is that deckers were not supposed to be running on the 219 which is why they stopped years ago bar very odd wanderings. No idea why if it is indeed true as it should be suitable right throughout having rode the route many times over the years. |
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126 at least once a week lately? Those are all fairly common.
