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Post by VMH2537 on Jun 17, 2024 8:55:24 GMT
Minor Changes to Friern Barnet Buses:43: Extended to New Southgate 683: Extended to Friern Barnet/Halliwick Park (43’s current termination) The 43 I think is too long to extend & there’s no benefit in extending the 683 to the 43’s stand, as it only has 1 journey it can’t make use of the 43’s stand. Though I could potentially see this being useful at the same time. I did previously suggest extending the 43 could bring some round to corner links by linking Muswell Hill and Archway directly, currently not in place. |
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Post by TB123 on Jun 17, 2024 8:57:37 GMT
The 43 I think is too long to extend & there’s no benefit in extending the 683 to the 43’s stand, as it only has 1 journey it can’t make use of the 43’s stand. Though I could potentially see this being useful at the same time. I did previously suggest extending the 43 could bring some round to corner links by linking Muswell Hill and Archway directly, currently not in place. This was proposed about 20-odd years ago, extending the 43 down to New Southgate. It might have been a goer had the route been truncated to Liverpool Street |
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Post by bk10mfe on Jun 17, 2024 9:18:10 GMT
Though I could potentially see this being useful at the same time. I did previously suggest extending the 43 could bring some round to corner links by linking Muswell Hill and Archway directly, currently not in place. This was proposed about 20-odd years ago, extending the 43 down to New Southgate. It might have been a goer had the route been truncated to Liverpool Street Maybe this could be done with the 134 instead, with the 43 diverted to North Finchley. |
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Post by Busboy105 on Jun 17, 2024 9:30:58 GMT
This was proposed about 20-odd years ago, extending the 43 down to New Southgate. It might have been a goer had the route been truncated to Liverpool Street Maybe this could be done with the 134 instead, with the 43 diverted to North Finchley. I don't think the New Southgate stand would be able to hold the 134 unless you convert the station forecourt to a stand there |
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Post by sdaniel on Jun 17, 2024 9:31:49 GMT
Minor Changes to Friern Barnet Buses:43: Extended to New Southgate 683: Extended to Friern Barnet/Halliwick Park (43’s current termination) The 43 I think is too long to extend & there’s no benefit in extending the 683 to the 43’s stand, as it only has 1 journey it can’t make use of the 43’s stand. Well, 43 would actually be one of the only night buses going to New Southgate if it were to extend and things such as new direct links would be benefited for passengers even though it’s only a 3 stop extension. |
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Post by bk10mfe on Jun 17, 2024 16:50:02 GMT
Could the 234 & 382 swap termini after Friern Barnet? I think this could make the 234 being extended from the 271 consultation more useful (the section south of Friern Barnet would now be 382). The only disadvantage I see to this is New Southgate losing its link to Finchley Central.
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Post by enviroPB on Jun 17, 2024 19:37:12 GMT
The 43 I think is too long to extend & there’s no benefit in extending the 683 to the 43’s stand, as it only has 1 journey it can’t make use of the 43’s stand. Well, 43 would actually be one of the only night buses going to New Southgate if it were to extend and things such as new direct links would be benefited for passengers even though it’s only a 3 stop extension. Incorrect, the N91 serves New Southgate Station. |
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Post by Busboy105 on Jun 17, 2024 21:06:38 GMT
Could the 234 & 382 swap termini after Friern Barnet? I think this could make the 234 being extended from the 271 consultation more useful (the section south of Friern Barnet would now be 382). The only disadvantage I see to this is New Southgate losing its link to Finchley Central. So 234 to Mill Hill and 382 to Archway? |
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Post by bk10mfe on Jun 17, 2024 21:29:27 GMT
Could the 234 & 382 swap termini after Friern Barnet? I think this could make the 234 being extended from the 271 consultation more useful (the section south of Friern Barnet would now be 382). The only disadvantage I see to this is New Southgate losing its link to Finchley Central. So 234 to Mill Hill and 382 to Archway? Yes |
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Post by 06transport on Jun 19, 2024 20:44:44 GMT
Moderate changes in and around Catford, Hither Green and Lewisham areas:
124: Extended from Catford Bridge to Lewisham Station via current 284 with an enhanced frequency of 8-9mins and a few extra journeys during peak hours. The route would no longer serve St Dunstan's College as route 336 will takeover that section. The operating hours would widen slightly (Approx. 4:45am - 1:45am).
225: Withdrawn - Replaced by changes to route 284.
284: Merged with route 225 and rerouted between Catford, St Andrews Church and Lewisham Fire Station, via Torridon Road, Hither Green Lane, Courthill Road, and current 225 towards Canada Water - with the route operating to every 12mins during the day (Incl Peaks) (Mon-Fri) 20mins (Sun).
336: Rerouted at Catford to terminate at St Dunstan's College instead of Catford Bridge/Thomas Lane.
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Post by DT 11 on Jun 19, 2024 21:01:08 GMT
Moderate changes in and around Catford, Hither Green and Lewisham areas:
124: Extended from Catford Bridge to Lewisham Station via current 284 with an enhanced frequency of 8-9mins and a few extra journeys during peak hours. The route would no longer serve St Dunstan's College as route 336 will takeover that section. The operating hours would widen slightly (Approx. 4:45am - 1:45am).
225: Withdrawn - Replaced by changes to route 284.
284: Merged with route 225 and rerouted between Catford, St Andrews Church and Lewisham Fire Station, via Torridon Road, Hither Green Lane, Courthill Road, and current 225 towards Canada Water - with the route operating to every 12mins during the day (Incl Peaks) (Mon-Fri) 20mins (Sun).
336: Rerouted at Catford to terminate at St Dunstan's College instead of Catford Bridge/Thomas Lane. None of these ideas are good at all disagree with them all especially the 225. Someone who is local to this area the current arrangements for all the routes are completely fine. I wouldn’t extend the 124 to Lewisham the current frequency matches demand especially between Catford & Grove Park. In addition this forces more single door buses along the extended section which is not needed. 225 doesn’t need to be replaced with another route. It isn’t broken and does not need fixing. 284 to Canada Water… more like 284s getting stuck in Deptford and curtailed to Surrey Quays and Grove Park. Needs no extension at all. The route is already troublesome at times with traffic delays… In addition this change disrupts commuters. A lot of people use the 284 between from Northover, Verdant Lane etc towards Catford as well as the other feeding services 124 160 181 into Catford to get to the train stations. 336 is well used on Thomas Lane so I disagree with that change. |
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Post by greenboy on Jun 20, 2024 6:05:55 GMT
Moderate changes in and around Catford, Hither Green and Lewisham areas:
124: Extended from Catford Bridge to Lewisham Station via current 284 with an enhanced frequency of 8-9mins and a few extra journeys during peak hours. The route would no longer serve St Dunstan's College as route 336 will takeover that section. The operating hours would widen slightly (Approx. 4:45am - 1:45am).
225: Withdrawn - Replaced by changes to route 284.
284: Merged with route 225 and rerouted between Catford, St Andrews Church and Lewisham Fire Station, via Torridon Road, Hither Green Lane, Courthill Road, and current 225 towards Canada Water - with the route operating to every 12mins during the day (Incl Peaks) (Mon-Fri) 20mins (Sun).
336: Rerouted at Catford to terminate at St Dunstan's College instead of Catford Bridge/Thomas Lane. Yes provides a direct link from Northover to Lewisham and the 336 serves Catford stations. |
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Post by COBO on Jun 20, 2024 16:07:56 GMT
232: withdrawn between Wood Green and Turnpike Lane. Diverted to Tottenham via route 243.
Or extended from Turnpike Lane to Tottenham via route 123.
I had this weird dream being stuck in Tottenham and i kept seeing e-tiles of the 232 on the bus stops and I thought that could be an idea. I was going to send it via the 318 routing and I remembered the low bridge that couldn’t be a good idea if it needs to be converted. Oddly the dream also had a WVL on the 123 but that’s another story,
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Post by bk10mfe on Jun 20, 2024 16:50:25 GMT
232: withdrawn between Wood Green and Turnpike Lane. Diverted to Tottenham via route 243. Or extended from Turnpike Lane to Tottenham via route 123. I had this weird dream being stuck in Tottenham and i kept seeing e-tiles of the 232 on the bus stops and I thought that could be an idea. I was going to send it via the 318 routing and I remembered the low bridge that couldn’t be a good idea if it needs to be converted. Oddly the dream also had a WVL on the 123 but that’s another story, 232 is too long to extend further & runs through lots of traffic hotspots on the A406. Maybe it could work if the popular suggestion of the route being cut back to Brent Cross, with the 112 & the single deck route introduced between St Raphael’s & North Finchley. |
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Post by sdaniel on Jun 20, 2024 22:31:53 GMT
232: withdrawn between Wood Green and Turnpike Lane. Diverted to Tottenham via route 243. Or extended from Turnpike Lane to Tottenham via route 123. I had this weird dream being stuck in Tottenham and i kept seeing e-tiles of the 232 on the bus stops and I thought that could be an idea. I was going to send it via the 318 routing and I remembered the low bridge that couldn’t be a good idea if it needs to be converted. Oddly the dream also had a WVL on the 123 but that’s another story, 232 is too long to extend further & runs through lots of traffic hotspots on the A406. Maybe it could work if the popular suggestion of the route being cut back to Brent Cross, with the 112 & the single deck route introduced between St Raphael’s & North Finchley. There will surely be changes to 112 and 232 when that new superloop that runs from Ealing Broadway to Hendon comes out. |
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