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Post by COBO on Jun 21, 2024 0:59:32 GMT
211: extended from Hammersmith to Acton Market Place (or maybe further to Ealing Broadway) via route 306 to Acton Vale, 207 to Acton High Street and Market Place (or via the 207 to Ealing) To help out the 306.
218: rerouted between Acton and Hammersmith via E3 to Turnham Green Station, Turnham Green Terrace, Chiswick High Road and route 267 to Hammersmith.
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Post by eal1ngvolvo483 on Jun 22, 2024 12:19:33 GMT
211: extended from Hammersmith to Acton Market Place (or maybe further to Ealing Broadway) via route 306 to Acton Vale, 207 to Acton High Street and Market Place (or via the 207 to Ealing) To help out the 306. 218: rerouted between Acton and Hammersmith via E3 to Turnham Green Station, Turnham Green Terrace, Chiswick High Road and route 267 to Hammersmith. An Acton (or Ealing) to Battersea route would really be interesting to be honest |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 22, 2024 14:03:37 GMT
211: extended from Hammersmith to Acton Market Place (or maybe further to Ealing Broadway) via route 306 to Acton Vale, 207 to Acton High Street and Market Place (or via the 207 to Ealing) To help out the 306. 218: rerouted between Acton and Hammersmith via E3 to Turnham Green Station, Turnham Green Terrace, Chiswick High Road and route 267 to Hammersmith. An Acton (or Ealing) to Battersea route would really be interesting to be honest The 211 doesn’t serve what is known as Battersea. Battersea Power Station overlaps with Nine Elms & the area known as Battersea Park whereas Battersea is situated much further west. I don’t think anyone from Acton or Ealing is going to need a link either to the Power Station or the actual area of Battersea and certainly Battersea residents value their current links to Central London, Wandsworth & Clapham Junction far more |
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Post by greg on Jun 23, 2024 22:34:38 GMT
Some changes I thought:
38: Withdrawn between Hackney Central and Clapton Pond, diverted to Homerton Hospital via Millfields replacing route 242.
HALF SERVICE ONLY - other journeys terminating at Hackney Central as usual.
No changes to route N38.
67: withdrawn between Stamford Hill and Wood Green, and diverted to Meridian Water via route 476 to Northumberland Park and Leaside Road via route 341
Extended from Dalston Junction to Aldgate replacing route 242
73: extended from Stoke Newington to Wood Green via La Rose Lane and Turnpike Lane replacing route 67
No changes to N73
242: withdrawn, replaced by changes to 38 and 67
N242: withdrawn and replaced by new N149
476: withdrawn, replaced by changes to 67 and 73
N149: New route introduced between Edmonton Green and Tottenham Court Road - replacing existing route 149 up to Monument where it runs via Cannon Street to Bank and replaces existing route N242 to TCR.
W3: Extended to Meridian Water via Leaside Road
Reasons:
38/242 changes:
The 242 is quite a short nip route and could easily be replaced with changes to other existing routes and perhaps reduce the overbussing in the Hackney and Hoxton areas - usually only busy between Dalston and Homerton where routes such as the 38 carries air
67/242 changes:
The 67’s proposal to Meridian Water up to Aldgate would be much more useful and connecting and reliable, connecting Aldgate, Hoxton and Haggerston with Meridian Water (Drumsheds), Tottenham and Seven Sisters. I would propose perhaps a 24 hour service on Fri/Sat nights. The 242’s links at Aldgate to Haggerston and Hackney are unpopular as there are other alternatives already.
67/73/476 changes;
Reasons for withdrawing the 476 is the overbussing and lack of demand. Reasons for swapping the 67/476(73) ends is that the 73/341 are very similar routes and for the 67/341/W3 to be the connecting routes at Meridian Water, it improves reliability for both the 67/73 and also gives new links to Hoxton, Haggerston and Aldgate instead of two major routes to Angel and the West End areas.
N149/N242 changes:
Not much to say other than the need for a Dalston-TCR route via the City which could be done in the shape of the 149 as it serves a dominant section of the N242 route already. For people to Hackney and nearby areas, routes such ar the N8/N38/N55/N253 are also available.
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Post by Busboy105 on Jun 23, 2024 22:37:14 GMT
I don't think LTs can fit around the 242s section in Homerton
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Post by greg on Jun 23, 2024 22:38:54 GMT
I don't think LTs can fit around the 242s section in Homerton They can’t so a swap with a route maybe such as the 243 but I didnt mention this as I prioritised bus changes as a whole. Vehicle changes havent been an issue for routes such as the 88 etc |
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Post by sdaniel on Jun 23, 2024 23:17:56 GMT
Some changes I thought: 38: Withdrawn between Hackney Central and Clapton Pond, diverted to Homerton Hospital via Millfields replacing route 242. HALF SERVICE ONLY - other journeys terminating at Hackney Central as usual. No changes to route N38. 67: withdrawn between Stamford Hill and Wood Green, and diverted to Meridian Water via route 476 to Northumberland Park and Leaside Road via route 341 Extended from Dalston Junction to Aldgate replacing route 242 73: extended from Stoke Newington to Wood Green via La Rose Lane and Turnpike Lane replacing route 67 No changes to N73 242: withdrawn, replaced by changes to 38 and 67 N242: withdrawn and replaced by new N149 476: withdrawn, replaced by changes to 67 and 73 N149: New route introduced between Edmonton Green and Tottenham Court Road - replacing existing route 149 up to Monument where it runs via Cannon Street to Bank and replaces existing route N242 to TCR. W3: Extended to Meridian Water via Leaside Road Reasons: 38/242 changes: The 242 is quite a short nip route and could easily be replaced with changes to other existing routes and perhaps reduce the overbussing in the Hackney and Hoxton areas - usually only busy between Dalston and Homerton where routes such as the 38 carries air 67/242 changes: The 67’s proposal to Meridian Water up to Aldgate would be much more useful and connecting and reliable, connecting Aldgate, Hoxton and Haggerston with Meridian Water (Drumsheds), Tottenham and Seven Sisters. I would propose perhaps a 24 hour service on Fri/Sat nights. The 242’s links at Aldgate to Haggerston and Hackney are unpopular as there are other alternatives already. 67/73/476 changes; Reasons for withdrawing the 476 is the overbussing and lack of demand. Reasons for swapping the 67/476(73) ends is that the 73/341 are very similar routes and for the 67/341/W3 to be the connecting routes at Meridian Water, it improves reliability for both the 67/73 and also gives new links to Hoxton, Haggerston and Aldgate instead of two major routes to Angel and the West End areas. N149/N242 changes: Not much to say other than the need for a Dalston-TCR route via the City which could be done in the shape of the 149 as it serves a dominant section of the N242 route already. For people to Hackney and nearby areas, routes such ar the N8/N38/N55/N253 are also available. I certainly agree with the W3 extension to Meridian Water. But there is no need to change the 38. I would extend the 476 up to Meridian Water as well and extend the 73 to Tottenham Hale because the 73 has been cut way too much. It used to run from Victoria to Seven Sisters. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 24, 2024 7:05:56 GMT
Some changes I thought: 38: Withdrawn between Hackney Central and Clapton Pond, diverted to Homerton Hospital via Millfields replacing route 242. HALF SERVICE ONLY - other journeys terminating at Hackney Central as usual. No changes to route N38. 67: withdrawn between Stamford Hill and Wood Green, and diverted to Meridian Water via route 476 to Northumberland Park and Leaside Road via route 341 Extended from Dalston Junction to Aldgate replacing route 242 73: extended from Stoke Newington to Wood Green via La Rose Lane and Turnpike Lane replacing route 67 No changes to N73 242: withdrawn, replaced by changes to 38 and 67 N242: withdrawn and replaced by new N149 476: withdrawn, replaced by changes to 67 and 73 N149: New route introduced between Edmonton Green and Tottenham Court Road - replacing existing route 149 up to Monument where it runs via Cannon Street to Bank and replaces existing route N242 to TCR. W3: Extended to Meridian Water via Leaside Road Reasons: 38/242 changes: The 242 is quite a short nip route and could easily be replaced with changes to other existing routes and perhaps reduce the overbussing in the Hackney and Hoxton areas - usually only busy between Dalston and Homerton where routes such as the 38 carries air 67/242 changes: The 67’s proposal to Meridian Water up to Aldgate would be much more useful and connecting and reliable, connecting Aldgate, Hoxton and Haggerston with Meridian Water (Drumsheds), Tottenham and Seven Sisters. I would propose perhaps a 24 hour service on Fri/Sat nights. The 242’s links at Aldgate to Haggerston and Hackney are unpopular as there are other alternatives already. 67/73/476 changes; Reasons for withdrawing the 476 is the overbussing and lack of demand. Reasons for swapping the 67/476(73) ends is that the 73/341 are very similar routes and for the 67/341/W3 to be the connecting routes at Meridian Water, it improves reliability for both the 67/73 and also gives new links to Hoxton, Haggerston and Aldgate instead of two major routes to Angel and the West End areas. N149/N242 changes: Not much to say other than the need for a Dalston-TCR route via the City which could be done in the shape of the 149 as it serves a dominant section of the N242 route already. For people to Hackney and nearby areas, routes such ar the N8/N38/N55/N253 are also available. I certainly agree with the W3 extension to Meridian Water. But there is no need to change the 38. I would extend the 476 up to Meridian Water as well and extend the 73 to Tottenham Hale because the 73 has been cut way too much. It used to run from Victoria to Seven Sisters. Or TOTTENHAM Swan as the RM 73 used to go to. I think it stood at that triangle by the bus garage/Philip Lane. |
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Post by rif153 on Jun 24, 2024 13:48:46 GMT
An Acton (or Ealing) to Battersea route would really be interesting to be honest The 211 doesn’t serve what is known as Battersea. Battersea Power Station overlaps with Nine Elms & the area known as Battersea Park whereas Battersea is situated much further west. I don’t think anyone from Acton or Ealing is going to need a link either to the Power Station or the actual area of Battersea and certainly Battersea residents value their current links to Central London, Wandsworth & Clapham Junction far more I don't think many people in Ealing/Acton would use such a route to go any further east than Fulham (or maybe Chelsea at a push) to be honest. We are blessed with good rail connections in this part of the world, offering journey times that buses are never going to be able to compete with. The power station hasn't got the same destination status as Westfield in my area, certainly nowhere near enough to warrant a direct link, and if people do want to go there the Northern line extension makes a train journey there fairly simple or you can even head south and get SWR to Queenstown Road too. Although the Power Station development is up and coming, it still seems some way off the heights of other major shopping destinations. |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 24, 2024 17:23:51 GMT
The 211 doesn’t serve what is known as Battersea. Battersea Power Station overlaps with Nine Elms & the area known as Battersea Park whereas Battersea is situated much further west. I don’t think anyone from Acton or Ealing is going to need a link either to the Power Station or the actual area of Battersea and certainly Battersea residents value their current links to Central London, Wandsworth & Clapham Junction far more I don't think many people in Ealing/Acton would use such a route to go any further east than Fulham (or maybe Chelsea at a push) to be honest. We are blessed with good rail connections in this part of the world, offering journey times that buses are never going to be able to compete with. The power station hasn't got the same destination status as Westfield in my area, certainly nowhere near enough to warrant a direct link, and if people do want to go there the Northern line extension makes a train journey there fairly simple or you can even head south and get SWR to Queenstown Road too. Although the Power Station development is up and coming, it still seems some way off the heights of other major shopping destinations. Exactly, not to mention the Power Station is a little more higher end than even Westfield so it's catchment won't be as big as Wetfields is. |
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Post by kaya on Jun 25, 2024 4:32:47 GMT
Some changes I thought: 38: Withdrawn between Hackney Central and Clapton Pond, diverted to Homerton Hospital via Millfields replacing route 242. HALF SERVICE ONLY - other journeys terminating at Hackney Central as usual. No changes to route N38. 67: withdrawn between Stamford Hill and Wood Green, and diverted to Meridian Water via route 476 to Northumberland Park and Leaside Road via route 341 Extended from Dalston Junction to Aldgate replacing route 242 73: extended from Stoke Newington to Wood Green via La Rose Lane and Turnpike Lane replacing route 67 No changes to N73 242: withdrawn, replaced by changes to 38 and 67 N242: withdrawn and replaced by new N149 476: withdrawn, replaced by changes to 67 and 73 N149: New route introduced between Edmonton Green and Tottenham Court Road - replacing existing route 149 up to Monument where it runs via Cannon Street to Bank and replaces existing route N242 to TCR. W3: Extended to Meridian Water via Leaside Road Reasons: 38/242 changes: The 242 is quite a short nip route and could easily be replaced with changes to other existing routes and perhaps reduce the overbussing in the Hackney and Hoxton areas - usually only busy between Dalston and Homerton where routes such as the 38 carries air 67/242 changes: The 67’s proposal to Meridian Water up to Aldgate would be much more useful and connecting and reliable, connecting Aldgate, Hoxton and Haggerston with Meridian Water (Drumsheds), Tottenham and Seven Sisters. I would propose perhaps a 24 hour service on Fri/Sat nights. The 242’s links at Aldgate to Haggerston and Hackney are unpopular as there are other alternatives already. 67/73/476 changes; Reasons for withdrawing the 476 is the overbussing and lack of demand. Reasons for swapping the 67/476(73) ends is that the 73/341 are very similar routes and for the 67/341/W3 to be the connecting routes at Meridian Water, it improves reliability for both the 67/73 and also gives new links to Hoxton, Haggerston and Aldgate instead of two major routes to Angel and the West End areas. N149/N242 changes: Not much to say other than the need for a Dalston-TCR route via the City which could be done in the shape of the 149 as it serves a dominant section of the N242 route already. For people to Hackney and nearby areas, routes such ar the N8/N38/N55/N253 are also available. I don't think 38 needs any changing to its route, it's fine as it is. I would agree if 73 was extended to Tottenham Bus Garage (which would possibly mean it could be transferred to Tottenham Garage) or Tottenham Hale Bus Station. I agree with W3 being extended to Meridian Water, but the rest I am pretty skeptical of. (e.g: 38, 67, 242, 476 and N149, I may edit back to this message about them later.) |
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Post by aaron1 on Jun 25, 2024 7:34:16 GMT
226 Withdrawn between Ealing Broadway and Park Royal have that Ealing Bit replace by a new Single decker E4 Reason for this Because of a low bridge Twyford Abbey have a low bridge Brunswick Road and Lynwood Road are narrow that is stopping the 226 from becoming at DD as it this route is busy
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 25, 2024 9:00:50 GMT
Some changes I thought: 38: Withdrawn between Hackney Central and Clapton Pond, diverted to Homerton Hospital via Millfields replacing route 242. HALF SERVICE ONLY - other journeys terminating at Hackney Central as usual. No changes to route N38. 67: withdrawn between Stamford Hill and Wood Green, and diverted to Meridian Water via route 476 to Northumberland Park and Leaside Road via route 341 Extended from Dalston Junction to Aldgate replacing route 242 73: extended from Stoke Newington to Wood Green via La Rose Lane and Turnpike Lane replacing route 67 No changes to N73 242: withdrawn, replaced by changes to 38 and 67 N242: withdrawn and replaced by new N149 476: withdrawn, replaced by changes to 67 and 73 N149: New route introduced between Edmonton Green and Tottenham Court Road - replacing existing route 149 up to Monument where it runs via Cannon Street to Bank and replaces existing route N242 to TCR. W3: Extended to Meridian Water via Leaside Road Reasons: 38/242 changes: The 242 is quite a short nip route and could easily be replaced with changes to other existing routes and perhaps reduce the overbussing in the Hackney and Hoxton areas - usually only busy between Dalston and Homerton where routes such as the 38 carries air 67/242 changes: The 67’s proposal to Meridian Water up to Aldgate would be much more useful and connecting and reliable, connecting Aldgate, Hoxton and Haggerston with Meridian Water (Drumsheds), Tottenham and Seven Sisters. I would propose perhaps a 24 hour service on Fri/Sat nights. The 242’s links at Aldgate to Haggerston and Hackney are unpopular as there are other alternatives already. 67/73/476 changes; Reasons for withdrawing the 476 is the overbussing and lack of demand. Reasons for swapping the 67/476(73) ends is that the 73/341 are very similar routes and for the 67/341/W3 to be the connecting routes at Meridian Water, it improves reliability for both the 67/73 and also gives new links to Hoxton, Haggerston and Aldgate instead of two major routes to Angel and the West End areas. N149/N242 changes: Not much to say other than the need for a Dalston-TCR route via the City which could be done in the shape of the 149 as it serves a dominant section of the N242 route already. For people to Hackney and nearby areas, routes such ar the N8/N38/N55/N253 are also available. Another walter mity fantady getting crayons out. Unless the 38 would be converted to shorter buses. There is NO way it would be able to do the 242 over the section in Clapton Park estate. None of the other changes make sense and are clearly done just to say i came up with this fantastic idea, for as some may put it, willy waving rights. No doubt the 242 can be withdrawn, but the methods proposing it makes no sense. Same for the 67, there has been so much better ideas said already on here previously. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 25, 2024 9:02:34 GMT
Some changes I thought: 38: Withdrawn between Hackney Central and Clapton Pond, diverted to Homerton Hospital via Millfields replacing route 242. HALF SERVICE ONLY - other journeys terminating at Hackney Central as usual. No changes to route N38. 67: withdrawn between Stamford Hill and Wood Green, and diverted to Meridian Water via route 476 to Northumberland Park and Leaside Road via route 341 Extended from Dalston Junction to Aldgate replacing route 242 73: extended from Stoke Newington to Wood Green via La Rose Lane and Turnpike Lane replacing route 67 No changes to N73 242: withdrawn, replaced by changes to 38 and 67 N242: withdrawn and replaced by new N149 476: withdrawn, replaced by changes to 67 and 73 N149: New route introduced between Edmonton Green and Tottenham Court Road - replacing existing route 149 up to Monument where it runs via Cannon Street to Bank and replaces existing route N242 to TCR. W3: Extended to Meridian Water via Leaside Road Reasons: 38/242 changes: The 242 is quite a short nip route and could easily be replaced with changes to other existing routes and perhaps reduce the overbussing in the Hackney and Hoxton areas - usually only busy between Dalston and Homerton where routes such as the 38 carries air 67/242 changes: The 67’s proposal to Meridian Water up to Aldgate would be much more useful and connecting and reliable, connecting Aldgate, Hoxton and Haggerston with Meridian Water (Drumsheds), Tottenham and Seven Sisters. I would propose perhaps a 24 hour service on Fri/Sat nights. The 242’s links at Aldgate to Haggerston and Hackney are unpopular as there are other alternatives already. 67/73/476 changes; Reasons for withdrawing the 476 is the overbussing and lack of demand. Reasons for swapping the 67/476(73) ends is that the 73/341 are very similar routes and for the 67/341/W3 to be the connecting routes at Meridian Water, it improves reliability for both the 67/73 and also gives new links to Hoxton, Haggerston and Aldgate instead of two major routes to Angel and the West End areas. N149/N242 changes: Not much to say other than the need for a Dalston-TCR route via the City which could be done in the shape of the 149 as it serves a dominant section of the N242 route already. For people to Hackney and nearby areas, routes such ar the N8/N38/N55/N253 are also available. I certainly agree with the W3 extension to Meridian Water. But there is no need to change the 38. I would extend the 476 up to Meridian Water as well and extend the 73 to Tottenham Hale because the 73 has been cut way too much. It used to run from Victoria to Seven Sisters. The 341 is not exactly heaving with passengers between Northumberland Park and Meridan Water. Over bussing that would be. |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 25, 2024 11:16:09 GMT
226 Withdrawn between Ealing Broadway and Park Royal have that Ealing Bit replace by a new Single decker E4 Reason for this Because of a low bridge Twyford Abbey have a low bridge Brunswick Road and Lynwood Road are narrow that is stopping the 226 from becoming at DD as it this route is busy It has nothing to do with those two roads - the low bridge on Twyford Abbey Road is the main restriction |
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