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Post by COBO on Sept 10, 2023 22:17:48 GMT
Yes TfL don’t have any money but there’s no harm in providing ideas. You can’t really say what will or won’t do because you aren’t TfL you have no idea what TfL are planning to do. You aren’t in the office with them when they are doing their plans. I heavily doubt many suggestions on this forum have ever been implemented into TFLs planning however I think its more common sense to recognise TFL will not be sporadically introducing routes that parallel what is a highly profitable venture for them. A lot of your posts seem to make it out as if large swathes of people would use these services? Really? Just as an example but good riddance to needing to use the 260 and 266 once the West London Orbital opens. You seriously underestimate how many people, if a rail alternative is provided, will switch to that, including bus enthusiasts like myself. Tramlink and the London Overground both echo this
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Post by VMH2537 on Sept 10, 2023 22:18:22 GMT
Yes TfL don’t have any money but there’s no harm in providing ideas. You can’t really say what will or won’t do because you aren’t TfL you have no idea what TfL are planning to do. You aren’t in the office with them when they are doing their plans. A thread like this can be very useful exchanging ideas on how the network could improve. There were suggestions of express routes being rebranded alongside new express services, now we've got the Superloop. This idea for many has been long suggested for years since Boris Johnson promised orbital express services a decade ago. There were also recent suggestions on extending the 497 to Upminister, it's now proposed to extend the service. I can guarantee a member of the public who has close connections to TfL or works for the organisation may have a look at this and potentially take it in during there free times or out of curiosity from public opinions. |
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Post by LondonNorthern on Sept 10, 2023 22:19:01 GMT
I heavily doubt many suggestions on this forum have ever been implemented into TFLs planning however I think its more common sense to recognise TFL will not be sporadically introducing routes that parallel what is a highly profitable venture for them. A lot of your posts seem to make it out as if large swathes of people would use these services? Really? Just as an example but good riddance to needing to use the 260 and 266 once the West London Orbital opens. You seriously underestimate how many people, if a rail alternative is provided, will switch to that, including bus enthusiasts like myself. Tramlink and the London Overground both echo this
How do we know what people will use if the thing doesn’t exist? How do you know if TfL will do anything to the 260 or 266. This conversation just continues to go round in circles. You clearly aren't getting it. |
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Post by COBO on Sept 10, 2023 22:20:42 GMT
How do we know what people will use if the thing doesn’t exist? How do you know if TfL will do anything to the 260 or 266. This conversation just continues to go round in circles. You clearly aren't getting it. And my suggestions are only suggestions I have no clue if people are going to be using them. They are just suggestions. |
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Post by COBO on Sept 10, 2023 23:59:51 GMT
Yes TfL don’t have any money but there’s no harm in providing ideas. You can’t really say what will or won’t do because you aren’t TfL you have no idea what TfL are planning to do. You aren’t in the office with them when they are doing their plans. A thread like this can be very useful exchanging ideas on how the network could improve. There were suggestions of express routes being rebranded alongside new express services, now we've got the Superloop. This idea for many has been long suggested for years since Boris Johnson promised orbital express services a decade ago. There were also recent suggestions on extending the 497 to Upminister, it's now proposed to extend the service. I can guarantee a member of the public who has close connections to TfL or works for the organisation may have a look at this and potentially take it in during there free times or out of curiosity from public opinions. Sarcasium I can't tell? |
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Post by northlondon83 on Sept 11, 2023 0:16:19 GMT
The whole tube won't go down. There are other alternatives You don’t what’s going to happen. Their are things like tube strikes. If something happens with the Circle line then the other surface lines are affected. Problems like tube strikes are very rare and even stuff like signal failures don't happen every day. There is seriously no need to provide more services in central London. Travelling by tube despite the costs is a far more attractive way of getting around in central London. Even if you don't take the tube, Boris bikes are everywhere and a lot of places are within walking distance. To me taking a bus in central London is tte least attractive option |
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Post by northlondon83 on Sept 11, 2023 0:17:40 GMT
We might as well just delete this page because TfL doesn’t have a money. Then don't post an idea that is unrealistic in the realistic thread. Sorry but some of your ideas are a little bit fantasy |
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Post by northlondon83 on Sept 11, 2023 0:19:45 GMT
Yes TfL don’t have any money but there’s no harm in providing ideas. You can’t really say what will or won’t do because you aren’t TfL you have no idea what TfL are planning to do. You aren’t in the office with them when they are doing their plans. Perhaps put it in the fantasy thread |
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Post by COBO on Sept 11, 2023 0:21:05 GMT
We might as well just delete this page because TfL doesn’t have a money. Then don't post an idea that is unrealistic in the realistic thread. Sorry but some of your ideas are a little bit fantasy don't tell what to do and this is a fantasy thread. Every idea in this thread is a fantasy. None of them can be taken seriously. |
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Post by northlondon83 on Sept 11, 2023 0:21:42 GMT
I heavily doubt many suggestions on this forum have ever been implemented into TFLs planning however I think its more common sense to recognise TFL will not be sporadically introducing routes that parallel what is a highly profitable venture for them. A lot of your posts seem to make it out as if large swathes of people would use these services? Really? Just as an example but good riddance to needing to use the 260 and 266 once the West London Orbital opens. You seriously underestimate how many people, if a rail alternative is provided, will switch to that, including bus enthusiasts like myself. Tramlink and the London Overground both echo this
How do we know what people will use if the thing doesn’t exist? How do you know if TfL will do anything to the 260 or 266. But would you really want to be stuck in traffic on a bus, or take the faster option which is take the train..if I was traveling from Stratford to Romford I think I'd choose the Elizabeth line any day over the 86 |
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Post by northlondon83 on Sept 11, 2023 0:23:15 GMT
Then don't post an idea that is unrealistic in the realistic thread. Sorry but some of your ideas are a little bit fantasy don't tell what to do and this is a fantasy thread. It is not. There is a thread dedicated for that. No idea why you're getting so defensive. Post a silly idea and insist that people would use these bus services which they won't because trains exist, then expect replies like this |
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Post by COBO on Sept 11, 2023 0:23:51 GMT
How do we know what people will use if the thing doesn’t exist? How do you know if TfL will do anything to the 260 or 266. But would you really want to be stuck in traffic on a bus, or take the faster option which is take the train..if I was traveling from Stratford to Romford I think I'd choose the Elizabeth line any day over the 86 And yet some people will choose a bus over that's why routes like the 25 and 18 have remained busy. Some people would rather get stuck in the traffic rather than take the tube. |
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Post by northlondon83 on Sept 11, 2023 0:26:36 GMT
A thread like this can be very useful exchanging ideas on how the network could improve. There were suggestions of express routes being rebranded alongside new express services, now we've got the Superloop. This idea for many has been long suggested for years since Boris Johnson promised orbital express services a decade ago. There were also recent suggestions on extending the 497 to Upminister, it's now proposed to extend the service. I can guarantee a member of the public who has close connections to TfL or works for the organisation may have a look at this and potentially take it in during there free times or out of curiosity from public opinions. Sarcasium I can't tell? You got to be kidding me... If you think you're realistic in trying to implement these silly ideas claiming that people will prefer buses than trains then goodness knows what Maybe I should walk from A to B because I don't like taking trains even though it takes far longer to walk |
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Post by COBO on Sept 11, 2023 0:27:59 GMT
You got to be kidding me... If you think you're realistic in trying to implement these silly ideas claiming that people will prefer buses than trains then goodness knows what Maybe I should walk from A to B because I don't like taking trains even though it takes far longer to walk what are you doing? But there are people who prefer buses to buses. That's why the 18, 94 and 25 are rammed full of passengers, |
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Post by northlondon83 on Sept 11, 2023 0:28:26 GMT
But would you really want to be stuck in traffic on a bus, or take the faster option which is take the train..if I was traveling from Stratford to Romford I think I'd choose the Elizabeth line any day over the 86 And yet some people will choose a bus over that's why routes like the 25 and 18 have remained busy. Some people would rather get stuck in the traffic rather than take the tube. What on earth? I've never met a person who likes getting stuck in traffic. Where are you getting this idea from? Regarding the 25 and 18 being busy well they are trunk routes and also link to places that are further from train stations |
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