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Post by northlondon83 on Oct 2, 2023 11:17:21 GMT
I'd only have the 88 run as far as Marble Arch, otherwise it would be very long. The 94 and 148 wouldn't need to change. To make stand space and PVR savings I would bin the 414. That would add another bus route to Oxford Street, the 88 would be roughly the same length as it is now. I hardly see merit in removing the 94 from Oxford Street, removes the only west London link (the 7 serves different parts). Even with your 88 extension it only provides a link to Shepherds Bush which can be done on the central line. Not everywhere can be linked to Oxford Street unfortunately
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Post by greenboy on Oct 2, 2023 11:40:44 GMT
That would add another bus route to Oxford Street, the 88 would be roughly the same length as it is now. I hardly see merit in removing the 94 from Oxford Street, removes the only west London link (the 7 serves different parts). Even with your 88 extension it only provides a link to Shepherds Bush which can be done on the central line. Not everywhere can be linked to Oxford Street unfortunately There is currently no service to any part of South London to and from the main part of Oxford Street and the 15 provides the link between Oxford Circus and The City that you were advocating, it seems you're just disagreeing for the sake of it.
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Post by northlondon83 on Oct 2, 2023 11:49:20 GMT
I hardly see merit in removing the 94 from Oxford Street, removes the only west London link (the 7 serves different parts). Even with your 88 extension it only provides a link to Shepherds Bush which can be done on the central line. Not everywhere can be linked to Oxford Street unfortunately There is currently no service to any part of South London to and from the main part of Oxford Street and the 15 provides the link between Oxford Circus and The City that you were advocating, it seems you're just disagreeing for the sake of it. Disagreeing for the sake of it? What on earth? There is nothing wrong with disagreeing. As I reiterated before the 94 shouldn't be meddled with as Acton Green loses it's link to Oxford Street. Extending the 88 just creates new links whilst breaking existing ones. Maybe it's better to leave things as they are
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Post by greenboy on Oct 2, 2023 12:09:33 GMT
There is currently no service to any part of South London to and from the main part of Oxford Street and the 15 provides the link between Oxford Circus and The City that you were advocating, it seems you're just disagreeing for the sake of it. Disagreeing for the sake of it? What on earth? There is nothing wrong with disagreeing. As I reiterated before the 94 shouldn't be meddled with as Acton Green loses it's link to Oxford Street. Extending the 88 just creates new links whilst breaking existing ones. Maybe it's better to leave things as they are Leave things as they are now? The other day you were advocating a link from Oxford Circus to The City, I give up!
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Post by northlondon83 on Oct 2, 2023 12:30:25 GMT
Disagreeing for the sake of it? What on earth? There is nothing wrong with disagreeing. As I reiterated before the 94 shouldn't be meddled with as Acton Green loses it's link to Oxford Street. Extending the 88 just creates new links whilst breaking existing ones. Maybe it's better to leave things as they are Leave things as they are now? The other day you were advocating a link from Oxford Circus to The City, I give up! well it's better than withdrawing the 94
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Post by M1104 on Oct 2, 2023 12:34:49 GMT
11 - reroute from Westminster via the 26 (old 11) to Aldwych, then via Waterloo Bridge, Stamford Street, Southwark Street and London Bridge to City Hall.
211 - leave as Waterloo to Hammersmith (its Battersea reroute abandoned)
C1 - extend beyond Victoria to Waterloo with possible (depending on demand) conversion to double deckers
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Post by northlondon83 on Oct 2, 2023 12:38:43 GMT
11 - reroute from Westminster via the 26 (old 11) to Aldwych, then via Waterloo Bridge, Stamford Street, Southwark Street and London Bridge to City Hall. 211 - leave as Waterloo to Hammersmith (its Battersea reroute abandoned) C1 - extend beyond Victoria to Waterloo with possible (depending on demand) conversion to double deckers Is there any reason for extending the 11? Just seems rather complicated to me. Thought the purpose of the 11 cut was to improve reliability
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Post by matthieu1221 on Oct 2, 2023 22:59:34 GMT
14 diverted via Berkeley Square, Oxford Street to Russell Square via British Museum as currently 22 rerouted to Piccadilly Circus
As noted many times, the 14's passenger loads are low from Russell Square and the British Museum, perhaps because it parallels the Piccadilly Line but at abysmal speeds. The 19 and 38 usually have ample capacity between Green Park and Tottenham Court Road via Shaftesbury Avenue to handle the absence of the 14. Rerouting the 14 will restore a link between Oxford Street and the British Museum and between Oxford Circus and Knightsbridge and create more opportunities for journeys made by passengers boarding at Berkeley Square.
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Post by aaron1 on Oct 3, 2023 7:13:45 GMT
189 extend to Victoria via routes 2 and 13 if there is no stand space there then to extend to Pimlico or Vauxhall reason this to bring back Cricklewood and Kilburn link to Victoria after the 16 was withdrawn
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Post by northlondon83 on Oct 3, 2023 10:41:41 GMT
189 extend to Victoria via routes 2 and 13 if there is no stand space there then to extend to Pimlico or Vauxhall reason this to bring back Cricklewood and Kilburn link to Victoria after the 16 was withdrawn Tfl aren't going to be reversing this change
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Post by vjaska on Oct 3, 2023 10:48:59 GMT
189 extend to Victoria via routes 2 and 13 if there is no stand space there then to extend to Pimlico or Vauxhall reason this to bring back Cricklewood and Kilburn link to Victoria after the 16 was withdrawn Tfl aren't going to be reversing this change Whether they are or not, the person is allowed to suggest it. Whilst I don't agree with extending the 189 at all, especially not to Pimlico or Vauxhall, I also didn't agree with removing the old 16 and renumbering the 332
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Post by greenboy on Oct 3, 2023 13:20:50 GMT
189 extend to Victoria via routes 2 and 13 if there is no stand space there then to extend to Pimlico or Vauxhall reason this to bring back Cricklewood and Kilburn link to Victoria after the 16 was withdrawn Tfl aren't going to be reversing this change How do you know what TfL are or aren't going to do when they probably don't even know themselves? The 189 didn't go to Victoria anyway. If the original proposal to reroute the 98 to Victoria had gone ahead there would at least still be a link to Kilburn.
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Post by northlondon83 on Oct 3, 2023 15:27:43 GMT
Tfl aren't going to be reversing this change How do you know what TfL are or aren't going to do when they probably don't even know themselves? The 189 didn't go to Victoria anyway. If the original proposal to reroute the 98 to Victoria had gone ahead there would at least still be a link to Kilburn. There's a small chance that they could reverse the changes but I think it would be unlikely. The 23 to Hammersmith wasn't well received so they returned it to Aldwych
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Post by vjaska on Oct 3, 2023 16:45:23 GMT
How do you know what TfL are or aren't going to do when they probably don't even know themselves? The 189 didn't go to Victoria anyway. If the original proposal to reroute the 98 to Victoria had gone ahead there would at least still be a link to Kilburn. There's a small chance that they could reverse the changes but I think it would be unlikely. The 23 to Hammersmith wasn't well received so they returned it to Aldwych The 23 was only returned to Aldwych because the 6 was diverted to Victoria
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Post by southlondonbus on Oct 3, 2023 16:45:26 GMT
How do you know what TfL are or aren't going to do when they probably don't even know themselves? The 189 didn't go to Victoria anyway. If the original proposal to reroute the 98 to Victoria had gone ahead there would at least still be a link to Kilburn. There's a small chance that they could reverse the changes but I think it would be unlikely. The 23 to Hammersmith wasn't well received so they returned it to Aldwych The 23 was more about it helping another routes changes, in this instance the 98 (later 6 to Victoria) and the 16 withdrawn. Had the 6 not changed then I doubt the 23 would have returned to Aldwych.
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