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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2024 19:32:15 GMT
Yeah pretty much. It had served it for donkey’s years, since the late 80s when it was opened and it was always well used as that Tesco is much closer to St Paul’s Cray than the one in Orpington. This was before the Aldi’s and Lidl’s opened opposite eachother down Sevenoaks Way though which help. Do you know if the R11 was failing to meet reliability standards like the R7 was? IIRC that was the general understanding of the situation on the thread on here when they changed it in March 2017. tangytango.proboards.com/thread/9405/orpington-route-changes |
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Post by YX10FFN on Mar 16, 2024 0:07:55 GMT
New route 408: Camberwell Green to Bromley South
Route: Peckham Road, Peckham, Peckham Rye, Forest Hill Road, Honor Oak Road, Forest Hill, Perry Rise, Lower Sydenham, Southend Lane, Downham, Bromley Hill, Bromley North
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Frequency: 12 minutes
Length: 9.1 miles
PVR: 13
Reasons:
- New links between Honor Oak and Camberwell/Forest Hill
- New link between Peckham Road and Forest Hill
- New link between Honor Oak Road and Peckham
- New link between Forest Hill and Bromley/Downham
- Direct link between Lower Sydenham and Bromley
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Post by greenboy on Mar 16, 2024 8:39:26 GMT
New route 408: Camberwell Green to Bromley South Route: Peckham Road, Peckham, Peckham Rye, Forest Hill Road, Honor Oak Road, Forest Hill, Perry Rise, Lower Sydenham, Southend Lane, Downham, Bromley Hill, Bromley North Single deck Frequency: 12 minutes Length: 9.1 miles PVR: 13 Reasons: - New links between Honor Oak and Camberwell/Forest Hill - New link between Peckham Road and Forest Hill - New link between Honor Oak Road and Peckham - New link between Forest Hill and Bromley/Downham - Direct link between Lower Sydenham and Bromley Interesting idea and Lower Sydenham could certainly do with better links going north but it does duplicate some other routes and of course there's the stand space problems in Bromley. |
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Post by greenboy on Mar 16, 2024 8:50:21 GMT
If we're getting crayons out for Superloop how about a route from Croydon running non stop to Coney Hall via Addington (no conflict with Tramlink) and across Hayes Common via Locks Bottom for PRU, Orpington, St Mary Cray, Ruxley Corner, North Cray, Bexley Village, Bexleyheath, Crayford, Dartford, Darent Valley Hospital and Bluewater. I have my doubts as to whether such a route would be viable but I'd certainly find it useful if such a route did ever happen.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2024 9:05:26 GMT
If we're getting crayons out for Superloop how about a route from Croydon running non stop to Coney Hall via Addington (no conflict with Tramlink) and across Hayes Common via Locks Bottom for PRU, Orpington, St Mary Cray, Ruxley Corner, North Cray, Bexley Village, Bexleyheath, Crayford, Dartford, Darent Valley Hospital and Bluewater. I have my doubts as to whether such a route would be viable but I'd certainly find it useful if such a route did ever happen. I can’t see TFL providing a 4th route to Dartford and Bluewater. I like the Bexleyheath-Orpington-Croydon chunk of the route though. Orpington to Bexleyheath could do with a faster direct service and I’ve always been all for a Orpington to Croydon service. North Cray relies on the abysmally unreliable 492, so that would be a plus as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2024 9:07:34 GMT
New route 408: Camberwell Green to Bromley South Route: Peckham Road, Peckham, Peckham Rye, Forest Hill Road, Honor Oak Road, Forest Hill, Perry Rise, Lower Sydenham, Southend Lane, Downham, Bromley Hill, Bromley North Single deck Frequency: 12 minutes Length: 9.1 miles PVR: 13 Reasons: - New links between Honor Oak and Camberwell/Forest Hill - New link between Peckham Road and Forest Hill - New link between Honor Oak Road and Peckham - New link between Forest Hill and Bromley/Downham - Direct link between Lower Sydenham and Bromley I really like this idea. With stand space being an issue at Bromley North maybe it could be extended to Bromley Common and terminate at the Bus Garage. |
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Post by bk10mfe on Mar 16, 2024 9:17:28 GMT
If we're getting crayons out for Superloop how about a route from Croydon running non stop to Coney Hall via Addington (no conflict with Tramlink) and across Hayes Common via Locks Bottom for PRU, Orpington, St Mary Cray, Ruxley Corner, North Cray, Bexley Village, Bexleyheath, Crayford, Dartford, Darent Valley Hospital and Bluewater. I have my doubts as to whether such a route would be viable but I'd certainly find it useful if such a route did ever happen. I can’t see TFL providing a 4th route to Dartford and Bluewater. I like the Bexleyheath-Orpington-Croydon chunk of the route though. Orpington to Bexleyheath could do with a faster direct service and I’ve always been all for a Orpington to Croydon service. North Cray relies on the abysmally unreliable 492, so that would be a plus as well. Perhaps if a Croydon-Bexleyheath route was to be introduced it could serve the following stops: West Croydon Bus Station East Croydon Station Coney Hall St Michaels Church Orpington Station Walnuts Centre Nugent Retail Park Double run into Foots Cray Tesco Bexley Library Bexleyheath Clock Tower |
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Post by bk10mfe on Mar 16, 2024 9:18:44 GMT
New route 408: Camberwell Green to Bromley South Route: Peckham Road, Peckham, Peckham Rye, Forest Hill Road, Honor Oak Road, Forest Hill, Perry Rise, Lower Sydenham, Southend Lane, Downham, Bromley Hill, Bromley North Single deck Frequency: 12 minutes Length: 9.1 miles PVR: 13 Reasons: - New links between Honor Oak and Camberwell/Forest Hill - New link between Peckham Road and Forest Hill - New link between Honor Oak Road and Peckham - New link between Forest Hill and Bromley/Downham - Direct link between Lower Sydenham and Bromley I really like this idea. With stand space being an issue at Bromley North maybe it could be extended to Bromley Common and terminate at the Bus Garage. The proposed 408 here is mentioned to terminate at Bromley South |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2024 9:32:15 GMT
I really like this idea. With stand space being an issue at Bromley North maybe it could be extended to Bromley Common and terminate at the Bus Garage. The proposed 408 here is mentioned to terminate at Bromley South There isn’t anywhere for a route to stand at Bromley South Station. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2024 9:35:25 GMT
I can’t see TFL providing a 4th route to Dartford and Bluewater. I like the Bexleyheath-Orpington-Croydon chunk of the route though. Orpington to Bexleyheath could do with a faster direct service and I’ve always been all for a Orpington to Croydon service. North Cray relies on the abysmally unreliable 492, so that would be a plus as well. Perhaps if a Croydon-Bexleyheath route was to be introduced it could serve the following stops: West Croydon Bus Station East Croydon Station Coney Hall St Michaels Church Orpington Station Walnuts Centre Nugent Retail Park Double run into Foots Cray Tesco Bexley Library Bexleyheath Clock Tower A double run into Tesco would slow down things if it’s supposed to be an express route. They could try and add some stops along Edgington Way to serve Foots Cray Tesco though. It should also stop at Ellenborough Road to serve the North Cray Estate. |
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Post by borneobus on Mar 16, 2024 10:23:24 GMT
The proposed 408 here is mentioned to terminate at Bromley South There isn’t anywhere for a route to stand at Bromley South Station. Would the stand that the 126 uses in Ringer's Road be an option? |
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Post by Paul on Mar 16, 2024 10:45:09 GMT
If we're getting crayons out for Superloop how about a route from Croydon running non stop to Coney Hall via Addington (no conflict with Tramlink) and across Hayes Common via Locks Bottom for PRU, Orpington, St Mary Cray, Ruxley Corner, North Cray, Bexley Village, Bexleyheath, Crayford, Dartford, Darent Valley Hospital and Bluewater. I have my doubts as to whether such a route would be viable but I'd certainly find it useful if such a route did ever happen. I could see Croydon to Bexleyheath via this routing but I doubt the section south of Bexleyheath would be considered given the links between Bexleyheath and Dartford/Bluewater that already exist |
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Post by bk10mfe on Mar 16, 2024 10:51:20 GMT
If we're getting crayons out for Superloop how about a route from Croydon running non stop to Coney Hall via Addington (no conflict with Tramlink) and across Hayes Common via Locks Bottom for PRU, Orpington, St Mary Cray, Ruxley Corner, North Cray, Bexley Village, Bexleyheath, Crayford, Dartford, Darent Valley Hospital and Bluewater. I have my doubts as to whether such a route would be viable but I'd certainly find it useful if such a route did ever happen. I could see Croydon to Bexleyheath via this routing but I doubt the section south of Bexleyheath would be considered given the links between Bexleyheath and Dartford/Bluewater that already exist Agreed someone wanting to continue on from Bexleyheath to Bluewater can get the high frequency 96. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2024 10:51:29 GMT
There isn’t anywhere for a route to stand at Bromley South Station. Would the stand that the 126 uses in Ringer's Road be an option? There is space but I’m not sure if they’d be allowed to use it. There is a restaurant/bar/venue type of place along there. |
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Post by DT 11 on Mar 16, 2024 10:52:56 GMT
The proposed 408 here is mentioned to terminate at Bromley South There isn’t anywhere for a route to stand at Bromley South Station. Yes there is a Bus Stand it is on Simpsons Road. Was supposed to be for the 126. The Ringers Road stand was only meant to be temporary 11 years later… Waste of money building it and it isn’t in use. |
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